Matthew McGovern VS PADA

Matthew McGovern with Narayan Maharaja

  

Matthew Mcgovern: I met you in San Francisco, your speculation about Jayatirtha, and your insults of Srila Bhakti Raksak Sridhara Deva Goswami are offensive and untrue. I can tell by your giggle that you seem to get off in criticizing devotees, your stories are heresay and untrue, but you must get some pay off with your stories. You were full of sh*t back then in san francisco, and still spouting your speculative stories.

PADA: OK for starters, we have no idea what specific "Jayatirtha stories" you want us to correct? We may have some specific details wrong here or there, ok perhaps, but our overall "Jayatirtha story" is correct because -- there are many others who validated these "stories." If you want a specific detail corrected, let me know and we can work on it from there.  

However, if PADA says -- hey! That it is you, yourself, looking lovingly at NM, the biggest cheer leader of Tamal's -- "pedophile sex webs, nests and rings" -- guru program, and all we have to do is look at the photo above? That is you, according to -- you. What am I missing here? 

And NM has been giving "rasika classes" to his Texas based pedophile guru's program, mixing their "Tamal's pedophile sex acharya's program" with NM's "rasika" program. This is all well documented? And thus, we had to have Tamal's and NM's rasika / pedophile sex program sued in the Dallas courts in Texas for $400,000,000. Again, this is all well documented with numerous accounts from ex-children, newspaper accounts, court documents etc.? 

And you ilk guys saying my complaints about the pervasive child molesting is "all lies" is what enabled all the pervasive child molesting to take place from square one. And! That is why we had to take your Tamal and NM's entire regime -- into the courts -- in the first place? And then -- the Dallas courts agreed with me -- yep! As a matter of FACT! Your guy's program is a pedophile sex process, and that is why your people pleaded "no contest" in the court. All this is well documented.  

Thus! Tamal has been the leader of the GBC's pedophile sex guru lover's program, and NM has been Tamal's constant sevaka lap dog, advertised as "eternal associates." Well yup, the pedophile guru lover's club will stay connected, maybe not eternally, but a least for many eons of time. Why would anyone want to be advertised as the "eternal associates" and "rasikas" of their pedophile sex guru's program? And why do none of your folks ever explain how "Krishna's gopi rasika" and "NM's pedophile sex gurus program" can be blended and juxtaposed into one parampara process?

** Jayatirtha was evidently taking drugs and having illicit sex with a follower in 1979. This was the subject of all sorts of big "emergency GBC meetings," and the leaders at UK Bhaktivedanta Manor confirmed to me that this was going on at the time. I personally witnessed Jayatirtha screaming on his Vyasa seat, quite evidently -- stoned on drugs. 

One of the UK's big leaders told me he went to Los Angeles to notify the other GBC that there was ALSO illicit sex going on -- in addition to drugs going on. Pretty sure this story has been validated by a number of sources. Of course JT was later on -- murdered -- by a disgruntled follower -- evidently -- for having illicit sex with a female follower. All this was in all the newspapers. 

Why would I need to re-validate what is common public newspaper info? It was said he was having illicit, and he was then murdered -- for having illicit sex. And you guys encouraging him is why he was killed, because you guys poured petrol on the whole pedophile-pada worship process, which expanded and fomented the whole fanatical cult. You are all guilty of making the cult machine that caused his death.   

*** The GBC had a big meeting with us where they told us JT had been taking drugs in Vrndavana, offered to him by "some bogus sahajiyas," and he fell into their program. Again, Jayatirtha's drug use was confirmed to us by others, including the top GBC's leaders at the time. Srila Prabhupada says -- illicit sex and drugs gurus are bogus sahajiyas -- and they are gliding to hell, and taking their followers with them. Sorry, this is not my complaint, it is coming from the acharya.

*** Srila Prabhupada ALSO says when a guru has sex with a follower -- it is the same as a father having sex with his daughter i.e. it is pedophile sex. That makes Jayatirtha a pedophile by the standards established by the acharya. You are not really arguing with me, but with the acharya.

Of course, even the common man knows that when a guru is having sex with a follower -- he is exploiting his superior position -- because the guru is de facto -- a fatherly figure. OK again -- de facto PEDOPHILE. Oddly the JT people are very upset with me for saying that JT is a pedophile -- or de facto he is -- but I am simply quoting the acharya. And JT was killed for his sexual predatory behavior, so my complaint has been validated -- ten million percent. Or what? 

But! Why are they upset with the words of the acharya? If Jayatirtha is a pedophile or de facto one, then anyone who is worshiping him is worshiping a pedophile, and that is what Srila Prabhupada says is taking them ALL to hell. Again, not my idea exclusively, also the acharya's idea. Of course JT was part of the whole GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru sampradaya process, so his gurus are doing the hokey pokey with anyone in the house, except maybe not the family's dog? And that is why someone from UK recently told me, you guys are the Jimmy Savile's guru parampara, or worse because you are posing as spiritual people and he was not. 

And Sridhar Maharaja said "none should protest." Why does Sridhar Maharaja defend his illicit sex with men, women and children guru's parampara, that bans, beats, molests, sues and -- kills us dissenters? And SM promoted a false guru in 1936, that ALSO had people banned, beaten, sued and -- assassinated in the 1940s. Documented in numerous examples by Srila Prabhupada. 

Why does anyone want this history repeated? Sridhar already knows we will be banned, beaten, sued and killed -- and he wants -- more of same. Did we forget to mention the child of Sridhara's guru was poisoned to death -- to cover up the scandal that his wife was a prostitute. And then their guru -- committed suicide after finding the child was dead. What kind of guru parampara is Sridhara Maharaja making for the world over here. 

And I am "making offenses," which is how they demonize people -- to have them get beaten and killed. Sridhara Maharaja has no authority to help promote a pedophile guru process, that is called demoniac in the Vedas -- and even -- by any ordinary man on the street. It is sinful, full stop period. And Sridhara Maharaja / NM and no one else has any authority to promote such an odious process which victimizes the innocent, includes small children. And then NM says, well the ISKCON children are just getting karma. What? He is authorized to give children his pedophile sex guru's karma process, by what authority. 

*** Jayatirtha started a drug selling program, according to a number of sources. And we knew personally some of his people here in San Francisco area. And they were in his program. And they told me they were distributing "designer drugs" to fund their "peace Krishnas" program. 

One of these JT followers was arrested here for pulling out a gun in the Berkeley theater and demanding the lady actress get off the stage and "go out with him on a date." The police later told me, they suspected he was stoned on designer drugs, and that is why they did not shoot him right on the spot. So, even the police knew the JT program has been a designer drugs cult. And the police told me that themselves. No, the police are not lying, they know the whole thing that has been going on here. 

*** The JT "Peace Krishnas" came to Berkeley temple and some of them said they wanted to "get me." Luckily for me -- some Hansadutta people came to my defense and they told JT people not to touch me -- or they would get shot because -- the Hansadutta people had the guns. So the JT program is not only an illicit sex and evidently pedophile guru sex and drugs program, it is a violent cult, as we eye-witnessed ourselves. As soon as they see a Vaishnava, they want to beat or kill that Vaishnava, as we eye-witnessed ourselves.

*** Jayatirtha's UK zone went bankrupted because he had siphoned off too much manpower, and they had to give up Croome court because he ruined the economy of his zone. Pretty much well documented, because I was there when they got Croome court. So he wanted people in ISKCON to either worship his sex and drugs program, or have ISKCON become demolished. And he did demolish ISKCON. I told him to make the UK a Prabhupada worship zone, and he was not interested in the slightest.  

*** Jayatirtha took sannyasa, after Srila Prabhupada had just said "no more sannyasa." And he ruined the life of his then wife Manjuali in so many respects in the process, as she was very upset by the whole thing according to people whom she spoke with. So your program is like an army tank driving over the citizens, including your own family's member citizens. 

Why? All so that JT could help the GBC establish his worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as God's guru successors process. And then they could get little children to worship pedophiles as their messiahs, at least that has been the self evident process all along.  

And thus, JT wanted all of our ISKCON children to worship his illicit sex guru's program, so he could self evidently corrupt the morals of children by having them worship deviants and pedophiles as their messiahs. I was one of the people who objected to that, so I know that is a valid complaint. Why does JT want little children to worship his pedophile pals as their messiahs, or worship himself, another sexual predator posing as a messiah? And why are you defending -- any of this process, or its top leaders? 

And JT did help establish the pedophile messiah's process, which is how the mass molesting resulted. And then later on Narayan Maharaja was recruited to be the GBC's illicit sex messiah's hand maiden apologist, enabler, and defender, after they eventually had to jettison JT because he was too self evidently a cheater -- even for them.

*** Indeed! Jayatirtha's whole 11 GBC gurus program was having illicit sex with men, women and children. That has been verified by many sources. Jayatirtha was actively promoting his pedophile guru process, again verified by many folks. And after they lost JT, they recruited Narayan Maharaja to be their bucket boy apologist, defender, enabler and topmost pedophile messiah lover's cheer leader. NM was in Texas yelling at our people when they challenged him over his promoting the GBC's (pedophile messiah's) guru process. Again, this was verified by our associates.

Did we forget to mention that when we brought out the poison issue, NM was attacking me for offending their program? He was demonizing me -- to get me killed, as they already got other "offenders" killed. "Give a dog a bad name, and hang it."

Did we forget to mention NM invited me to his ashram, and left me sitting outside his room from 8 am to 5 pm, and then he sneaked off the property -- out the back door -- and left the property -- without seeing me? That means he has no answer either, just like you. 

Did we forget to mention JT was advertising that he was another Jesus and he was taking sins. And some of his followers told me he was falling, because he took their sins. How is illicit sex and drugs connected to -- another Jesus? How can some illicit sex and drugs fool -- take sins like Jesus?

Anyway! Narayan Maharaja said all of them are monkeys, and 11 of these monkeys are gurus. Why do we think one of these monkeys, or eleven of these monkeys, are God's successors? OK I could go on here. Answer these points first and then we can continue from there. ys pd

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