PADA: Lots of nice comments on this video, ISKCON is corrupt and needs a house cleaning. Exposing deviants if not sexual predators should never result in the whistleblowers being oppressed, this is very sinful and protects the abusers and not the abused.
ISKCON should know that by now. Anyway, this is unfortunately the only way to work on the issue, we have to go public. Despite having countless GBC meetings, committees, PAMHO networks, and so on, the victims rarely get a voice unless they go public.
Even Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / KKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU etc. have been crying that we are exposing the pedophile guru program, which they said in 1998 is "the golden body of ISKCON." Why does their golden body of ISKCON smell like a pile of dog's poop, and it just stinks more and more all the time, which is why this Patna expose video has to be made? I am with these Patna guys, expose these corrupt people posing as God's representatives!
Hee hee!
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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BHAKTI VIKAS SWAMI's BAFFLING MAYAVADA PREACHING
PADA: Thanks for your questions LCD prabhu. I also cannot figure this out either. Yep. We are not allowed to place photos of demigods on the altars, because they are conditioned souls. But Bhakti Vikas swami's program has people placing photos of abominable debauchees including pedophiles on the altars. That means BVKS thinks degraded debauchees are higher than the demigods, but we are not even supposed to put their photos on the altars either. It only makes sense if we want to purposefully degrade the human society into worshiping deviants, which he is doing.
* Bhakti Vikas swami has ISKCON's people placing the photos of the GBC's gurus on the ISKCON altars -- supposedly because -- the guru is a representative of Srimate Radharani and the gopis, the pure servants of Krishna. And that is supposedly why the BVKS program's guru's photo are on the altars and placed at Krishna's feet, because the guru is saksad hari or "quality the same as Krishna." In sum, the guru is supposed to be part of the YOGAMAYA shakti of Krishna and not the MAHAMAYA shakti of Durga devi.
* Bhakti Vikas swami says OK that is correct, the guru is the same quality as Krishna, shaksad hari, therefore lets put the photos of falling down persons -- engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children / debauchees / drunks / porno swamis / homosexuals / pedophiles / criminals etc. on the altars, and advertise these fallen people in these photos as "eternal maid servants of Radharani and the gopis" (Yogamaya).
* Therefore Bhakti Vikas swami is mixing together -- Maha maya -- or illicit sex with men, women and children (Durga's Maya shakti) -- with Srimate Radharani (Krishna's internal shakti or Yogamaya). So it appears that Bhakti Vikas swami has no idea that we cannot worship Durga's Maya shakti, or ignorance and illusion, as if it is Radharani's internal shakti or Yogamaya.
* BVKS evidently has no actual idea that there is a difference between Yogamaya and Mahamaya. When we see the photos of the faces of his Mahamaya gurus on the altars, he thinks it is the same as seeing the faces of the Yogamaya pure devotee's photos.
* I agree, this is most baffling. A person who is fully under the control of Durga's maya, and is therefore engaged in abominable fallen behaviors, is not "qualitatively the same" as an actual servant of Radharani. This is mixing up Yogamaya and Mahamaya, also known as sahajiya or mayavada. Srila Prabhupada never said we should worship abominable Mahamaya deviants as Yogamaya pure devotees.
* Yep, worshiping fallen persons, or their cheer leader enablers, will keep a conditioned soul in the fallen status. Srila Prabhupada says that only by worship of a pure devotee can a fallen person be liberated. He never says we should make illicit sex with men, women and children / homosexuals / pedophiles / degraded and abominable rascals etc. into gurus and alleged servants of Radharani. Yep, this is an insult to Radharani.
* The odd thing for me is -- that since Bhakti Vikas swami likes to see people worshiping his illicit sex with men, woman and children gurus, why does his program then coerce little children to worship his homosexual and pedophile guru brotherhood line, and juxtapose his homosexual and pedophile brotherhood with worship of the servants of Radharani?
Isn't that going to corrupt children's worship of God process? And isn't that confusing people what is Durga's maya shakti and Radharani's internal and pure shakti? In other words, by claiming that Durga's Maya shakti and Radharani's internal Yoga maya shakti are to be juxtaposed together as the same item, Bhakti Vikas is preaching "Maha maya and Yoga maya are one and the same thing" which is sahajiya and mayavada. And that is why Srila Prabhupada says -- the sahajiyas are gliding to hell.
RMD made similar comments. ys pd
RMD: None of this makes much sense.
1) We need to make sure our kids do not fall into maya. Good so far.
2) Then ... we do nothing ... as one after another of our acharyas falls into maya. In fact, we drive out the people complaining and keep the mayic gurus.
3) Persons posing as guru who are in maya are protected from being removed. Because ??? we want to keep our mayic gurus so they can wreak havoc on ISKCON .... and cause havoc and dangerous condition for our children. Which they did.
4) Meanwhile! "Krishna children" are being mistreated something fierce under the control of these mayic gurus. And these "dangerous to children" mayic gurus are being protected to stay in office. There is no official protection for these children ... or else they would have been. Read: Mayic gurus are protected ... children are not protected.
5) Looks like ... the GBC wants maya to win.
6) No wonder ISKCON is empty ... they wanted maya to win ... and maya has won ... because they defend keeping maya's gurus in office. And this is protecting the mayic gurus and not the children.
7) That means they think their mayic gurus are the reality and the children are the mayic illusion.
8) Bhakti Vikas says the real face of Durga is Radharani. Huh? We will find that Durga is not there, but Radha will be there. These mayic gurus are representing Radharani?
It never seems to end with veda vada rata people. Your maya gurus represent maya, ignorance and illusion, not Radharani. The foolishness never stops. They are worshiping ignorant, lusty and foolish mayic gurus, has nothing to do with spiritual energy of Radharani. They don't know any of this, because they are mayic gurus.
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Here is the Mantra prayer to His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. The purpose of chanting the pranama mantra is to get the mercy of Prabhupada who can purify our heart and take the mind towards Krishna.
nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhu-tale
srimate bhaktivedanta-svamin iti namine
I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who is very dear to Lord Krishna on this earth, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.
namas te sarasvate deve gaura-vani-pracharine
nirvishesha-shunyavadi-pashchatya-desha-tarine
Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Sarasvati Gosvami. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Chaitanya deva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.
nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhu-tale
srimate bhaktivedanta-svamin iti namine
I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who is very dear to Lord Krishna on this earth, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.
namas te sarasvate deve gaura-vani-pracharine
nirvishesha-shunyavadi-pashchatya-desha-tarine
Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Sarasvati Gosvami. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Chaitanya deva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.
PADA: Right, Srila Prabhupada delivered us from juxtaposing Maha maya and Yoga maya, and BVKS is trying to wreck and undo all of Prabhupada's hard work, and merge them together. He is a mayavada. Of course when we see that he wants little children to worship his homosexual and pedophile guru brotherhood, he is way worse than mayavadas, who keep some basic standards for their gurus.
AFD: Oh how many times we heard? We cannot worship demigods. Forbidden. We will stay in the material world, maybe on a higher planet at least.
ReplyDeleteBhakti Vikas swami does not want us to worship the demigods, because maybe we will elevate ... to a higher place than here. He wants us to worship the abominable and degraded, so we go to the planets of the abominable and degraded. He wants us to move down to the lower regions.
It would be much better if BVKS has people worship the demigods. He does not want people to move up to a higher planet, he wants us to go to the lower and abominable planets. That is why Prabhupada says the BVKS false gurus go to the most abominable planets, and he wants us to go there with them.
We cannot worship demigods, but we can worship illicit sex degraded people. Correction! We cannot worship anything other than the degraded and abominable, otherwise, should we fail to worship the degraded, we are kicked out of ISKCON. There is no other option.
This is right, he does not want demigods worship, that would elevate people at least to that level. He wants to flush us down the drain. These people want society to degrade, and look at the state of Patna iskcon, they are degrading it.
RMD: I get it now. Bhakti Vikas swami forbids worship of the demigods, but we CAN worship homosexuals and pedophiles. Because? Homosexuals and pedophiles are more advanced than the demigods.
ReplyDeleteThat means Bhakti Vikas swami thinks homosexuals and pedophiles are the sum totals of the demigods, higher than demigods. That is what we thought he was saying.
PADA: Well yep, and if we fail to promote BVKS's worship of homosexuals and pedophiles guru lineage, we can be banned, beat, sued and killed. The homo and pedo worshiper regime folks take their business seriously. You can die if you oppose them.