Harinama Diksha Talk // MD vs PADA 08 13 25

 

PADA: RE: Satanic Art

HERE IT IS JM:

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2022/01/hidden-satanic-occult-symbols-in.html

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PADA: Dear MD: OK so several thousand kids were mistreated, then they suffered badly, and many have had PTSD symptoms (some still do) and some were taking their own lives etc. And I represented them because of -- personal grievance. ??? OK that means you just discounted all these kids in one swoop. I am not these kids, I am their representative. 

The reason there is a current criminal case is: there has been criminal orchestrated mass child mistreatment; then there has been criminal orchestrated suppression of us whistle blowers, including criminal force and / or enforcers chasing us with bats and / or taking us six feet under into our graves. All this is criminal, and it has not ever been adjudicated properly as criminal in court, ever. 

The Windle Turley case and others cases were civil (they had to pay but no criminal charges). This case is seeking criminal charges. So you wanted a proper legal forum for these criminal acts, and it is in the works. And my testimony -- and all the recorded media circus around all this -- may very well be part of it. 

As for closure, well my legal pals told me the best thing ISKCON could do right now is fire and remove all the people involved in the criminal orchestrated child mistreatment program, and suppressing us, such as Radhanath, Jayapataka and so on. But they won't do that. 

You wanted legal and we are working on legal, there is a criminal case in the works. I am not at all disappointed, we have convinced perhaps hundred of millions of people this is a criminal child mistreatment fake religion, which suppresses whistle blowers, because all this was in all sorts of medias extensively. I got closure a long time ago, my cases were won over and over. And I expect the criminal case will also be won. We are bringing this to a conclusion, these people are criminals. The past cannot be undone, but there is always an accounting and reckoning at some point. ys pd

*** The children's issue was the original main issue, it is not my personal issue. The fact that they hunt whistle blowers is somewhat personal, but they also hunt down or suppress other whistle blowers, not just me. I am an example of how they treat these issues, not only personally, they suppress other complainers. Overall they removed most of the complainers, which was about 95% of the original Prabhupada disciples. That is criminal in itself, they removed almost everyone so they could grab the assets, also known as fraud. 

As for the poison "theory," it is not my job to make that issue legal, or any other issue legal. I am a retired Taxi driver and have no interest in hiring a $1,000 an hour lawyer to call their $1,000 an hour lawyer to exchange messages, which ends up costing millions, when they can just call me on the phone at any time and exchange info for free. 

If they wanted me to assist their legal challenge, they would have had me connected as an advisor to Balavanta in 1998, and I could have coordinated some information exchanges perhaps, but they do not want a legal resolution or they would not fire their legal team. I did not ever say they are currently giving me a bad name, rather it looks like -- now that they are going to be charged criminally for suppressing us in the past, they are trying to hide all the evidence they suppressed us in the past. 

Unfortunately, their past is all public media info at this stage and cannot be hidden. But since I am a retired Taxi driver, asking me to start a legal case anywhere is not a valid suggestion. I also do not believe the November tapes issue is a theory, I think it is a valid complaint and was verified by everyone in the room, he is complaining that someone is giving p*ison, everyone in the room agrees he is saying that. 

Adridharan said everyone there was very alarmed, and the people who gave me the tape were there and they all said something wrong was going down. They were there and that is how come they got me the tapes. I played the tapes to Brijabasis, and other native speakers, and they all said -- this is a homicide case. 

But I do not need anyone's verification, I listened to the tape hundreds of times before I released it, I already know what it says with no help from the Gainesville FEDs or anyone else. In any case, if you want to see these issues handled separately, maybe they will be and maybe not, but they are all connected. They mistreated the seniors, the women, the children, the cows, many others, and myself, and many folks now believe -- this all started when they mistreated their guru. 

I see how all this is connected, and so do others. If you really wanted ISKCON people to have a legal answer, you should get ISKCON to re-hire Balavanta and quit stalling. I will volunteer to help resolve that case. At this stage I can only act as an advisor or supplemental info testifying helper etc. which I am doing. ys pd

HD: Let the Delhi High Court carry out its due process for the child abuse case already filed there.

As for the Poison Theory, the real test will be whether any of its proponents take the matter to a legal forum where evidence can undergo cross-examination. Until that happens, it remains only a theory based on opinions and interpretations. It is unfortunate that it is being presented on social media as a “fact beyond reasonable doubt” when it has never been subjected to judicial scrutiny.
He who asserts must prove. Hopefully, the accuser remembers this; otherwise, the current approach is setting a very wrong precedent.

PADA: Assuming you are correct, still -- no one is required to either start or not start a legal case to prove anything. Srila Prabhupada said his guru was complaining of getting injections in 1936, some think those injections were toxic, but nothing ever went to court. Yet the lingering suspicion was always there "My guru maharaja also." It is on the tape. 

Almost everyone said I was wrong in 1978, that was never proven in court, but almost everyone now knows I was right at this stage. No court needed. Gurus are taken out with p*ison in India by motivated followers for centuries, and this is discussed on the November tapes itself. Why are the GBC discussing such events at this stage? Anyway. Maybe some of those cases had legal resolution, but mostly they are not. 

Just because a case does or does not go to court does not prove any of these gurus were not harmed by motivated followers. Even Gaura Govinda followers told me -- just when their guru was challenging the GBC, he suddenly departed. I told them to take the body in for forensics, but how did you guess, his body was taken by Jayapataka people to be buried where there is a broke sewer pipe. 

Yep. He who asserts must prove their case. Right, and that is why the GBC, after essentially asserting that I am Beelzebub, and need to be removed from the planet, has never proven me wrong even once. Nor apologized for making me a target. My feeling is that the criminal complaint over mass child mistreatment will sink their financial boat, people will stop contributing. 

At that time, lets hope Madhu Pandit has made his program clearly separated from theirs. Or he will get lumped in. But you are right, the GBC has accused me to the point their enforcers came to take me to an early grave, but they never, ever, ever proved me wrong on any issue, ever. They never will either. But yeah, they asserted that I was wrong, but they had no proof, and that explains why they sent their enforcement team to take me out. 

They could not prove me wrong one iota. So they wanted to settle this the mobster way, which only proves, they are mobsters. I know they are mobsters, I do not need that certified by the court. ys pd