Govinda Dasi Writes (Update) 06 03 25

Yes, He is the big boss.

The biggest boss there is!

But He is also ... our best friend and well wisher.

And ultimately, He is the object of our eternal love.  

Govinda Dasi

It all sounds very complicated and totally confusing. No wonder young devotees are so bewildered. I don't know anything about all this ritvik or non-ritvik philosophy or all these people who hate one another so much. It is foreign to me.

PADA: OK the ritviks want to worship the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada, the non-ritviks or GBC folks want to promote worshiping their illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. It is not actually complicated at all. 

The Vedas ALWAYS order us to take shelter of the pure devotee's guru lineage, and to avoid at all costs the illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineages (such as the GBC's). One lineage takes us to Vaikuntha, and the other lineage has us worshiping bogus acharyas destined for the most obnoxious regions. 

I met Srila Prabhupada in January of 1967, traveled and served as his secretary and cook in 1967,1968 and 1969, then he lived with us in Hawaii and later I traveled with him in the U.S. and in India to Kumbha Mela and elsewhere. So I have my beloved guru for over 50 years and have never left him. 

PADA: Well then you should have understood by now that the ritviks are the people who have Srila Prabhupada as their guru, so you are one of us. 

I am content.

And I can certainly tell you that the Iskcon he created, the house in which the whole world can live, was a wonderful experience! And it bears little resemblance to what is known today as Iskcon. BUT I have faith that in time it will again come into glory, as it is Lord Chaitanya’s prediction. 

Perhaps in two or three generations.

So I hardly ever even think about this stuff. But it seems to me that all this focus on guruhood is way over amped. No wonder so many new devotees are so confused. New devotees can read about all the scandals and sanyasi child abuse online, so no wonder they are reluctant to trust any one who claims to be a guru,— especially those dressed in saffron. It is a sad state of affairs.

PADA: And that is because the GBC has telescoped kanisthas, or less than that, with pure devotees. That is the root of the confusion, how can pure devotees be falling down left, right and center? And not only that, fallen into the most abominable deviations including being pedophiles or de facto pedophiles by having sex with followers. 

The youth are alive and inquiring, and they can read about the obnoxious exploits of Bhakti Vidya Purna and others online. From my experience, they just want to hear about Srila Prabhupada.

PADA: Yes, but since the GBC are promoting themselves as gurus, and they are promoting deviants like Bhakti Vidya Purna swami and others, the whole upper echelon of managers in ISKCON appears as compromised and corrupt. And Lokanath is another example of a person who inappropriately touched an 11 years old girl, and yet he is still a "pure devotee acharya." 

That means the GBC does not care about the integrity of the parampara, or the suffering of the victims their program has been producing left, right and center -- including that some victims have ended their lives in despair, seeing the GBC as hopelessly corrupt, if not Satanic child abuse cult leaders.  

The repugnance of the child abuse in Iskcon, the stench of greedy and arrogant sanyasis, and the history of the Grand Eleven is everywhere online for them to see. 

PADA: Yep, people keep asking me -- why do we post these things online. The answer is simple, there is no alternative. If we go to the temples to discuss these things we will be banned, beaten, sued or even assassinated. We have to do everything externally, for our safety and well being for starters. 

One of the devotees who said he was going to address all this internally was found with his throat slit while tied to a chair. The police said it was an inside job. Then his wife was told to leave town and not help the investigation, they were intimidating her because she was a potential help for the investigation. And there are many other examples of people being badly mistreated when they question the GBC's guru brotherhood, this is one of many. 

They are not so naive as devotees in the past. At this point, they do not trust most of the leaders and only want to hear about Srila Prabhupada — whether they are ritvik or non-ritvik or whether they are initiated by an iskcon guru. Many have even told me they have no faith whatsoever in their chosen gurus, especially after the covid vaxine debacle. They only want to connect with Srila Prabhupada.

But most importantly, I do think Krishna can create alternatives when something needs to be done. He may even create alternatives that temporarily serve a particular purpose. Remember, not a blade of grass can move without the will of Krishna. Not one blade of grass…

So though I do not subscribe to the various factions created, or their offshoots, I can say one thing on behalf of the ritvik faction: were it not for them, there would be NO ORIGINAL AUTHENTIC BOOKS OF SRILA PRABHUPADA remaining on this planet.

Srila Prabhupada’s original book copyrights that he placed safely in a trust he had created, Bhaktivedanta Book Trust, was raided in the early 80’s and his copyrights were illegally placed into a corporation (named Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International Incorporated.).

Once there, they were re-edited, modified, “bowdlerized” (post humously edited) and became known as “derivatives” (the legal name for the post humously edited books)

These “derivative books” lost the “writer’s voice,”and many unauthorized changes were made. They have been changed to such an extent (a particular percentage) that according to the rules of publishing, they can no longer even be considered authentic writings of the author. Most universities and scholars will not even accept such “derivative books” as useful or authentic.

In my opinion, this is the most important issue facing the devotee world. Without the original writings of the master, the teachings can continue to be changed long into posterity and thus completely lose their validity. One change a year equals 100 changes in 100 years.

Just look at the Christian teachings as an example. One politically powerful leader in the Catholic church decided one day that animals have no souls—so voila!—he changed the teachings so we now have millions of slaughter houses. This can happen to our teachings too!

In that line of thinking, perhaps all this misunderstanding and infighting over initiation is nothing more than debris to distract from the really important issue, i.e. the purity of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings for all posterity. This purity can only be ensured by no changes to the original authentic books after the author’s demise. End of story.

PADA: Well yep, true dat! The ritvik issue is a smoke screen for the real issues and real agenda of the bogus GBC, i.e. the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits, murders and book changes. Ooops, and poisoning of the founder. 

Good job Govinda dasi, yeah we pushed all this out there openly in the public, because when we tried to discuss with the GBC we were booted out of the society. And then Jayatirtha warned me very menacingly -- "watch your back" -- when he booted me out. 

This was a criminal goonda take over of the mission and that is all there is to it. At least now more people are waking up, and more will over time. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com