Saturday, August 31, 2013
Aniruddha Sherbow Arrested for Threats Against Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard
http://www.khon2.com/2013/08/30/congresswoman-gabbard-speaks-out-after-man-arrested-for-sending-death-threats/
(This is pretty disturbing material on this link, read at your own discretion.)
http://20lk872rk5i31ktr1i49yhw8fwd.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2013/08/Sherbow-Criminal-Complaint.pdf
(This is pretty disturbing material on this link, read at your own discretion.)
http://20lk872rk5i31ktr1i49yhw8fwd.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2013/08/Sherbow-Criminal-Complaint.pdf
For the first time since federal officials announced a man was arrested, accused of making credible threats against Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, the Congresswoman spoke to KHON2 about the ordeal.
“There has thankfully been no disruption to my work and this service that I do my best to provide here in Hawaii and as well as D.C.,” Gabbard said.
On Wednesday, federal authorities arrested Aniruddha Sherbow in Tijuana, Mexico. Sherbow is accused of sending emails threatening to behead the Congresswoman.
Federal officials stepped in to help.
“They are doing their jobs in an outstanding way bringing about some closure to what has been a situation that has gone on for a few years,” Gabbard said.
For the past couple of months, Gabbard has been under the watchful eye of an experienced team of security experts from the U.S. Capitol Police.
“We have taken precautions to make sure that I have been able to continue my work and again, it’s our law enforcement doing their job that has enabled me to be able to continue to do mine,” Gabbard said.
The mission of Capitol Police is to, “protect and secure Congress so it can fulfill its constitutional responsibilities in a safe and open environment.”
Many of the Capitol Police officers with Gabbard also traveled with and stood by Sen. Daniel Inouye while he was president pro tem.
“I knew them back then and it’s great to be able to work with them here, but also once they leave I will go back to Washington and get back to work there,” Gabbard said.
“Do they make you feel safer?” KHON2 asked.
“Yeah,” Gabbard said.
Gabbard will remain in Hawaii for another week.
As for Sherbow, he remains in custody and is now facing prosecution.
Related story: Man arrested for threats against Rep. Tulsi Gabbard
New GBC web site fails to mention -- Krishna?
http://vedic-cf.org/
PADA: This is apparently a new GBC managed site since its co-director is Sesa dasa, the GBC's henchman, and it advertises for the GBC's Dandavats web site etc. NOTICE: There is no mention of Srila Prabhupada on the front page? Or ISKCON? Or even -- Krishna? Or Hare Krishna? Is this what the GBC gurus are down to now, they cannot even use the name of -- Srila Prabhupada, ISKCON, or even Krishna, because they had given Krishna such a bad name? So now they have to hide behind a new identity, "Vedic CF"? Is this short for "Vedic Cheating Fraud"? Or what? What happened to Krishna, He seems to have got lost in the shuffle over there in GBC guru land? Or what? ys pd
PADA: This is apparently a new GBC managed site since its co-director is Sesa dasa, the GBC's henchman, and it advertises for the GBC's Dandavats web site etc. NOTICE: There is no mention of Srila Prabhupada on the front page? Or ISKCON? Or even -- Krishna? Or Hare Krishna? Is this what the GBC gurus are down to now, they cannot even use the name of -- Srila Prabhupada, ISKCON, or even Krishna, because they had given Krishna such a bad name? So now they have to hide behind a new identity, "Vedic CF"? Is this short for "Vedic Cheating Fraud"? Or what? What happened to Krishna, He seems to have got lost in the shuffle over there in GBC guru land? Or what? ys pd
GBC / Danavir / Bhakti Vikas Swami -- Do Not Follow Their Own Rules?
http://www.oneiskcon.com/permission-to-serve-in-iskcon-2/
[PADA: Danavir / Bhakti Vikas Swami and in sum, the entire GBC's process, have been promoting all kinds of "outside authorities" such as: Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, BV Puri, BP Puri, Fakir Mohan, and a number of sahajiya gurus from Radha Kunda etc., and then they say, no one else can follow "outside" authority or they cannot be in ISKCON.
That means, they are not in ISKCON themselves, since they are at the top of the list for "following outside authorities"? The GBC even admits recently that Mahanidhi has had "philosophical issues" -- such as following outside authorities, but despite knowing that, they did nothing about it for more than a decade.
Jayapataka has said, for years together, that he really following people like the Gaudiya Matha's "advisors," because they were co-writing position papers for Jayapataka and the GBC. And Jayapataka has advertised Gaudiya Matha's, Gaura Govinda Maharaja's and Banu swami's writings. And he still is?
And Banu's writings are apparently more important than Srila Prabhupada's writings. Banu swami says for example it is quite typical in the guru parampara from Krishna for the acharyas from Vaikuntha to be fallen i.e.: Womanizing drunkards, homosexuals, Las Vegas gamblers, people who run off with the wives of disciples, debauchees, drug addicts, people who advertise for using condoms for illicit sex, insane asylum refugees, people who run off to eat chicken, fish, meat and maybe even beef steaks, people who live in mansions while the deity lives in a ghetto, etc. and this is very typical of the behavior of acharyas in our parampara.
Gaura Govinda Maharaja even wrote a paper for Jayapataka in 1988 saying simply, that its quite common for gurus to be -- demons. Gaura Govinda Maharaja's people actually gave us his "gurus are sometimes demons" paper when I visited GGM.
Srila Prabhupada never said anything like that? They have accepted Banu swami as a higher authority than Srila Prabhupada? Of course any ten year old child in the USA knows that the guru is not a debauchee, what to speak of a demon, so even a ten year old USA child could defeat all these fools in an instant.
They are even promoting Mayavada gurus in ISKCON temples, including recently, a guru who says that Radharani is not even an actual person. So this is the first problem with the GBC, they make all kinds of "laws for ISKCON," and they are the first people to break these rules. Jayapataka was even sending a tantric ghost buster guru all over ISKCON, claiming this ghost buster's guru lineage is a big authority. So they make a rule, and then they say, everyone else has to follow their concocted rules, but they never follow this rule?
Is this why Jesus says, "Oh ye hypocrites, sons of vipers"? ys pd
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Murali: "Intimate siksa association is prohibited from non-ISKCON spiritual masters", yeah, the funny thing is that Iskcon "spiritual masters" like Indradyumna, BB Govinda, Sivarama, Mahanidhi, Sacinandana Swamis and many others ad infinitum, are taking siksa association from non-Iskcon spiritual masters. When the king makes the rules and he is the first one to break them, that is called Middle Age.
[PADA: Danavir / Bhakti Vikas Swami and in sum, the entire GBC's process, have been promoting all kinds of "outside authorities" such as: Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, BV Puri, BP Puri, Fakir Mohan, and a number of sahajiya gurus from Radha Kunda etc., and then they say, no one else can follow "outside" authority or they cannot be in ISKCON.
That means, they are not in ISKCON themselves, since they are at the top of the list for "following outside authorities"? The GBC even admits recently that Mahanidhi has had "philosophical issues" -- such as following outside authorities, but despite knowing that, they did nothing about it for more than a decade.
Jayapataka has said, for years together, that he really following people like the Gaudiya Matha's "advisors," because they were co-writing position papers for Jayapataka and the GBC. And Jayapataka has advertised Gaudiya Matha's, Gaura Govinda Maharaja's and Banu swami's writings. And he still is?
And Banu's writings are apparently more important than Srila Prabhupada's writings. Banu swami says for example it is quite typical in the guru parampara from Krishna for the acharyas from Vaikuntha to be fallen i.e.: Womanizing drunkards, homosexuals, Las Vegas gamblers, people who run off with the wives of disciples, debauchees, drug addicts, people who advertise for using condoms for illicit sex, insane asylum refugees, people who run off to eat chicken, fish, meat and maybe even beef steaks, people who live in mansions while the deity lives in a ghetto, etc. and this is very typical of the behavior of acharyas in our parampara.
Gaura Govinda Maharaja even wrote a paper for Jayapataka in 1988 saying simply, that its quite common for gurus to be -- demons. Gaura Govinda Maharaja's people actually gave us his "gurus are sometimes demons" paper when I visited GGM.
Srila Prabhupada never said anything like that? They have accepted Banu swami as a higher authority than Srila Prabhupada? Of course any ten year old child in the USA knows that the guru is not a debauchee, what to speak of a demon, so even a ten year old USA child could defeat all these fools in an instant.
They are even promoting Mayavada gurus in ISKCON temples, including recently, a guru who says that Radharani is not even an actual person. So this is the first problem with the GBC, they make all kinds of "laws for ISKCON," and they are the first people to break these rules. Jayapataka was even sending a tantric ghost buster guru all over ISKCON, claiming this ghost buster's guru lineage is a big authority. So they make a rule, and then they say, everyone else has to follow their concocted rules, but they never follow this rule?
Is this why Jesus says, "Oh ye hypocrites, sons of vipers"? ys pd
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Murali: "Intimate siksa association is prohibited from non-ISKCON spiritual masters", yeah, the funny thing is that Iskcon "spiritual masters" like Indradyumna, BB Govinda, Sivarama, Mahanidhi, Sacinandana Swamis and many others ad infinitum, are taking siksa association from non-Iskcon spiritual masters. When the king makes the rules and he is the first one to break them, that is called Middle Age.
Guru d: That's what I understood from the SPIRITUAL VISION of Srila Prabhupad recorded in his Transcendental Books ... Cc. Adi-lila > Adi 1.1.35: The Spiritual Masters - purport by HDG Srila Prabhupad: " It is imperative that a serious person accept a bona fide spiritual master in terms of the śāstric injunctions. SRI JIVA GOSWAMI ADVISES THAT ONE NOT ACCEPT A SPIRITUAL MASTER IN TERMS OF HEREDITARY OR CUSTOMARY SOCIAL AND ECCLESIASTICAL CONVENTIONS.
One should simply try to find a genuinely qualified spiritual master for actual advancement in spiritual understanding". In the light of this statement made by Srila Prabhupad i can boldly declare that the above quotted resolution of GBC regarding Guru issue is totaly Bhogus and without any shastric support and us such very detrimental to the development of true spiritual vision, expresed by Srila Prabhupad in his teachings and his books.
Nobody can claim to posses the Monopoly of Srila Prabhupad's teachings which are non different from the teachings of Gaudiya Vaishnava Acaryas. Gauranga Mahaprabhu's message are not Sectarian message at all and there are no question of discriminations in terms of material considerations regarding the cast creed and color or bellonging to particular institutions or some other social organization.
Instead of passing this kind of resolutions and wast their time GBC body will do better to open their minds and their hearts and sincerely appologize to the world wide comunity of devotees for misinterpreting the Srila Prabhupad's messagge and for abused their power and high position in Iskcon for promoting themselfs as Gurus and spiritual authorities of Iskcon, the position which actualy belongs only to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupad - FOUNDER AND ACARYA OF ISKCON FOR ALL TIMES TO COME... May Srila Prabhupad always bless His sincere servants !
Friday, August 30, 2013
Nandani Dasi vs Raja Gopala Das (8/30/13)
Hare Krsna Prabhupadanuga’s
All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Srila Prabhupada.
Please accept my most fallen and humble obeiscances.
This is a Message from my sister to Raja Gopala Dasa, Aka Rob Knaapen.
My whole family, are initiated devotees we know who you are. You cursed me that, I will never be able to realize Lord Krsna, and the Divine Qualties, of Srila Prabhupada. My sister has send you this message, you are not the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna, watch out what you are doing. You have hurt me so much, and I told my sister everything.
My sister was the one, who said to me, to take shelter of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
I’m not threatening you, but the order she gave me is to pull myself back and don’t write furthermore any comments!!! She knows, when I get angry, what I will do!!!
You have criticized Srila Prabhupada, that He was a Karmi!!!
We are cultivating the new generation, who are following the four regulative principles and chanting their 16 rounds. You called the ritviks, that they have illicit sex, but they are staunch devotees, look at yourself. They know the meaning of marriage!!!
And they are accepting Srila Prabhupada, as their Guru!!!
You are fooling yourself not me. Do you have a paid salary from Radhadesh?
That is not bhakti!!! -- that is doing business with Their Lordships Sri Sri Radha-Gopinatha!!! You are not the first one, who cursed me, devotees of Lord Krsna never curse anyone. They are para dukha dukhi!!! Just read the unedited Bhagavata Gita as it is.
Do you think you are very learned, bhakti begins on the brahman platform, were you can see every living being as devotees of Lord Krsna!!!! I will leave it to the direct disciples of Srila Prabhupada, they have more transcendental knowledge than me!!!
Furthermore, we are not the trumpeting, what sort of education and titles we have. That is all Jara Vidya, but we are earning our livelihood with working honesty!!!
Dear Prabhupadanugas, I’m very sorry, that I will not write any comments. I will read the articles everyday and I still accept Srila Prabhupada as my only Shelter. I want to thank all of You, You are staunch devotees of Srila Prabhupada and I want to thank You again for all the articles on your website.
I will always be indebted to You all, but I hope You all will understand my situation. When time comes, and my sister orders me, I will write my comments. All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Srila Prabhupada.
Please accept my most fallen and humble obeiscances.
This is a Message from my sister to Raja Gopala Dasa, Aka Rob Knaapen.
Hare Krsna Raja Gopala Dasa Prabhu,
My whole family, are initiated devotees we know who you are. You cursed me that, I will never be able to realize Lord Krsna, and the Divine Qualties, of Srila Prabhupada. My sister has send you this message, you are not the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Krsna, watch out what you are doing. You have hurt me so much, and I told my sister everything.
My sister was the one, who said to me, to take shelter of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
I’m not threatening you, but the order she gave me is to pull myself back and don’t write furthermore any comments!!! She knows, when I get angry, what I will do!!!
You have criticized Srila Prabhupada, that He was a Karmi!!!
If you want to be humble and submissive, just look back who you were and what you are now. To curse someone, who you don’t even know is, not a good quality of a vaisnava!!!
We are cultivating the new generation, who are following the four regulative principles and chanting their 16 rounds. You called the ritviks, that they have illicit sex, but they are staunch devotees, look at yourself. They know the meaning of marriage!!!
If they want children, it is only to raise them in Krsna Consciousness!!!
And they are accepting Srila Prabhupada, as their Guru!!!
You called me crazy, but I will not jeopardize my work, you live in Tilburg. This is your phone number 013 4551890, your email address is; rknaapen@wandoo.nl. My brother in law lives in Tilburg!!!
I won’t tell you what his function is, but he is a government officer and I’m his little sister, he loves me as a father!!! You don’t even know who my husband is and what sort of work, he is doing. This is my last comment for you Raj Gopala Prabhu, aka Rob Knaapen, you are a hypocrite. You are writing with two mail addresses on this website!!!
I won’t tell you what his function is, but he is a government officer and I’m his little sister, he loves me as a father!!! You don’t even know who my husband is and what sort of work, he is doing. This is my last comment for you Raj Gopala Prabhu, aka Rob Knaapen, you are a hypocrite. You are writing with two mail addresses on this website!!!
You are fooling yourself not me. Do you have a paid salary from Radhadesh?
That is not bhakti!!! -- that is doing business with Their Lordships Sri Sri Radha-Gopinatha!!! You are not the first one, who cursed me, devotees of Lord Krsna never curse anyone. They are para dukha dukhi!!! Just read the unedited Bhagavata Gita as it is.
Do you think you are very learned, bhakti begins on the brahman platform, were you can see every living being as devotees of Lord Krsna!!!! I will leave it to the direct disciples of Srila Prabhupada, they have more transcendental knowledge than me!!!
Furthermore, we are not the trumpeting, what sort of education and titles we have. That is all Jara Vidya, but we are earning our livelihood with working honesty!!!
Dear Prabhupadanugas, I’m very sorry, that I will not write any comments. I will read the articles everyday and I still accept Srila Prabhupada as my only Shelter. I want to thank all of You, You are staunch devotees of Srila Prabhupada and I want to thank You again for all the articles on your website.
I will always be indebted to You all, but I hope You all will understand my situation. When time comes, and my sister orders me, I will write my comments. All Glories to His Divine Grace, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada.
All Glories to all Prabhupadanugas.
Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
Always Your servant,
Nandani dasi
Please accept my most fallen and humble obeisances.
Always Your servant,
Nandani dasi
Thursday, August 29, 2013
Vyasa Puja Offering by Mahesh Raja prabhu (2013)
Nama oṁ visnu-pãdãya krsna-presthãya bhu-tale
Śrimate bhaktivedãna-svãminn iti nãmine
Namas te sãrarsvate deve gaura-vãni-pracãrine
Nirviśesa-śunyavãdi pãścãtya deśa tãrine
Dear Srila Prabhupada,
Your BOOKs ARE your Divine Grace
Your BOOKS are Krsna’s PLAN manifest.
Your Books are THE Law Books for mankind : those that do NOT accept you as CURRENT DIKSA GURU are the DOG KIND.
Mischievous are the CHEATERS who with their pretend claim as diksa guru: TO HELL does YOUR beloved Krsna send them AND their disciples -- ALL A BUNCH OF CROOKS!
To KRSNA’S Goloka go those that ACCEPT ONLY YOU AS CURRENT DIKSA GURU: Krsna’s Plan done YOUR DIVINE GRACE.
July 9th 1977 Ritvik System is YOUR ORDER
A bunch of ASSES who have done the DISORDER
You Srila Prabhupada, IS our BELOVED CURRENT DIKSA Guru FOR AS LONG AS YOUR BOOKS ARE ON THE PLANET
Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
YOUR SERVANT , mahesh ETERNALLY
Śrimate bhaktivedãna-svãminn iti nãmine
Namas te sãrarsvate deve gaura-vãni-pracãrine
Nirviśesa-śunyavãdi pãścãtya deśa tãrine
Dear Srila Prabhupada,
Your BOOKs ARE your Divine Grace
Your BOOKS are Krsna’s PLAN manifest.
Your Books are THE Law Books for mankind : those that do NOT accept you as CURRENT DIKSA GURU are the DOG KIND.
Mischievous are the CHEATERS who with their pretend claim as diksa guru: TO HELL does YOUR beloved Krsna send them AND their disciples -- ALL A BUNCH OF CROOKS!
To KRSNA’S Goloka go those that ACCEPT ONLY YOU AS CURRENT DIKSA GURU: Krsna’s Plan done YOUR DIVINE GRACE.
July 9th 1977 Ritvik System is YOUR ORDER
A bunch of ASSES who have done the DISORDER
You Srila Prabhupada, IS our BELOVED CURRENT DIKSA Guru FOR AS LONG AS YOUR BOOKS ARE ON THE PLANET
Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
YOUR SERVANT , mahesh ETERNALLY
Janmashtami: Russian Krishnaites reminisce (and other links)
Janmashtami: Russian Krishnaites reminisce about embracing a new faith
As Moscow marks Lord Krishna’s birthday, ISKCON followers describe their journey to spirituality and a lifestyle where they are vegetarians and shun alcohol and smoking.There are a number of festive events held in the Russian capital to pay tribute to the Hindu God, Krishna on his birthday, Janmashtami. These celebrations are in large part due to the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), which found its way to Moscow thanks to Swami Prabhupada, the founder of the movement.
Hearing & Chanting of the Holy Names
The human form of life is meant for God realization, but this process, which begins with sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]—hearing and chanting of the holy name of the Lord—is disturbed as long as our senses are materially attracted. In the conditioned state our senses are covered by material sense gratification, and as long as one is not trained in purifying the senses, one cannot become a devotee.
Until they became a customer
Srila Prabhupada was stressing the importance of personal communication as well as determination and enthusiasm for any and every opportunity to preach.
Jai Srila Prabhupada!
Your Servants
Online Team
ISKCON Times
Bangalore
Tuesday, August 27, 2013
Janmasthmi Festival in Sunnyvale California (Wed 28th)
Hare Krishna!!
The biggest festival of the year is here.. the appearance day of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krishna. We are celebrating this on Wednesday (28th August) with great pomp and enthusiasm. We have plenty of exciting events lined up throughout the day. Please look at the flyer below and we are also proud to present before you our annual report for the last 12 months. Please see the video report here.
We hope you will come and participate in this all auspicious festival with your family. We have plenty of parking and have volunteers to guide you at every step for your smooth experience.
Program Schedule for Wednesday (28th August) :
5 am : Mangala Arati
7:15 am : Darshan Arati
7:25 am : Guru puja
7:45 am : Discourse
8:30 am : Breakfast prasadam
9 am - 12:45 pm : Reading from scriptures and bhajans
12:45 pm : Rajbhoga arati
1:15 pm - 3 pm : Bhajans
3 pm - 5 pm : Cultural events
5 pm - 6:45 pm : Bhajans and kirtans
6:45 pm : Tulasi Arati
7 pm : Gaura Arati
7:30 pm : Grand Abhisheka for Radha Krishna and Gaura Nitai
8:30 pm : Special video on Janmastami
9:10 pm : Jhulan seva starts
9:50 pm : Pallaki seva
10:30 pm : Jhulan seva resumes (everyone can take part in jhulan here)
12 am midnight : Grand maha arati, welcoming the Lord
(Prasadam feast is served in the temple for all visitors throughout the day/evening).
Video Invitation :Check out our video invitation here.
The biggest festival of the year is here.. the appearance day of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krishna. We are celebrating this on Wednesday (28th August) with great pomp and enthusiasm. We have plenty of exciting events lined up throughout the day. Please look at the flyer below and we are also proud to present before you our annual report for the last 12 months. Please see the video report here.
We hope you will come and participate in this all auspicious festival with your family. We have plenty of parking and have volunteers to guide you at every step for your smooth experience.
Program Schedule for Wednesday (28th August) :
5 am : Mangala Arati
7:15 am : Darshan Arati
7:25 am : Guru puja
7:45 am : Discourse
8:30 am : Breakfast prasadam
9 am - 12:45 pm : Reading from scriptures and bhajans
12:45 pm : Rajbhoga arati
1:15 pm - 3 pm : Bhajans
3 pm - 5 pm : Cultural events
5 pm - 6:45 pm : Bhajans and kirtans
6:45 pm : Tulasi Arati
7 pm : Gaura Arati
7:30 pm : Grand Abhisheka for Radha Krishna and Gaura Nitai
8:30 pm : Special video on Janmastami
9:10 pm : Jhulan seva starts
9:50 pm : Pallaki seva
10:30 pm : Jhulan seva resumes (everyone can take part in jhulan here)
12 am midnight : Grand maha arati, welcoming the Lord
(Prasadam feast is served in the temple for all visitors throughout the day/evening).
Video Invitation :Check out our video invitation here.
For flyer and other seva details:
Yours in the service of Sri Krishna Balaram and Srila Prabhupada,
KB Mandir Exec Committee,www.kbmandir.org
www.facebook.com/kbmandir
www.youtube.com/theihfusa
info@kbmandir.org
408 657 8485
"Previously Unidentified Gurus Species" by Dasanudas
Srila Prabhupada Letters on Guruship
BY: DOWNUNDER DASANUDAS
For all of us who have been waiting in the stands for so long, expecting that call to arms from the ultimate spiritual authority, the good ship GBC to ordain us as fully fledged diksa-gurus with all the trappings, it definitely seems like we have been missing the point. We are already diksa-gurus. Didn't Sriman Mahaprabhu preach that on His order we all become 'as good as God' diksa-gurus and initiate the masses? Didn't His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada also order that every one of his disciples, man woman and child (and even those in a non-designated species), go out and give diksa initiation to everyone we meet?
It's obviously our 'birthright'!!! Just like if dad is a Brahmin, aren't I also qualified???If I have a father, why can't I also have a son! Makes sense doesn't it! So why have the GBC been so miserly and discriminative in allowing this birthright to only a very select hundred or so who have been ordained with that 'no-objection' rubber stamp? Let's open the floodgates...come forth and claim your rightful position.
This will solve all the problems ISKCON has faced in the past, present and future, including infighting over disciples and zones. Can't you just see it...hoardes of bona fide diksa-gurus flooding the planet with a tsunami of love of God! Those vikarmis will never know what hit them. Here in the 'land downunder', those pesky kangaroos often reach plague proportions, however the hoardes of ISKCON gurus will be just the opposite, welcomed by every householder to initiate them while they milk their cow (or kangaroo).
You may rightfully ask, is there any qualification or regulation involved in this sublime position? Not really, you just have to have the desire to want to do it... and even if for some reason the responsibility no longer appeals to you, there are so many 'fall-back' positions, so your career move will not go in vain.
Mostly all have excellent ongoing benefits, and of course you can keep what you have stashed away while in office. Just to name a few, we have available Retired-guru, Comeback-guru, Porno-guru, Mayavada hugging-guru, Babaji loving-guru, Homosex-guru, Marry your disciple-guru, Marry your disciple's wife-guru, Millionaire-guru (I got an inheritance), Hollywood-guru, Pedophile-guru, LSD-guru (off ya head), Same-sex marriage-guru, and of course, let's not forget Brahmacarini harem-guru. As you can see the list goes on and on, so there really is a place for us all to be looked after in our retirement.
Only blip on the radar I can see is that if we are all diksa-gurus, where the heck is the daksine coming from, as there won't be any disciples...? I knew there had to be a catch somewhere. Oh well, back to study the Sastra again! Maybe there is a better way.
Your most humble servant,
Downunder dasanudas
BY: DOWNUNDER DASANUDAS
For all of us who have been waiting in the stands for so long, expecting that call to arms from the ultimate spiritual authority, the good ship GBC to ordain us as fully fledged diksa-gurus with all the trappings, it definitely seems like we have been missing the point. We are already diksa-gurus. Didn't Sriman Mahaprabhu preach that on His order we all become 'as good as God' diksa-gurus and initiate the masses? Didn't His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada also order that every one of his disciples, man woman and child (and even those in a non-designated species), go out and give diksa initiation to everyone we meet?
It's obviously our 'birthright'!!! Just like if dad is a Brahmin, aren't I also qualified???If I have a father, why can't I also have a son! Makes sense doesn't it! So why have the GBC been so miserly and discriminative in allowing this birthright to only a very select hundred or so who have been ordained with that 'no-objection' rubber stamp? Let's open the floodgates...come forth and claim your rightful position.
This will solve all the problems ISKCON has faced in the past, present and future, including infighting over disciples and zones. Can't you just see it...hoardes of bona fide diksa-gurus flooding the planet with a tsunami of love of God! Those vikarmis will never know what hit them. Here in the 'land downunder', those pesky kangaroos often reach plague proportions, however the hoardes of ISKCON gurus will be just the opposite, welcomed by every householder to initiate them while they milk their cow (or kangaroo).
You may rightfully ask, is there any qualification or regulation involved in this sublime position? Not really, you just have to have the desire to want to do it... and even if for some reason the responsibility no longer appeals to you, there are so many 'fall-back' positions, so your career move will not go in vain.
Mostly all have excellent ongoing benefits, and of course you can keep what you have stashed away while in office. Just to name a few, we have available Retired-guru, Comeback-guru, Porno-guru, Mayavada hugging-guru, Babaji loving-guru, Homosex-guru, Marry your disciple-guru, Marry your disciple's wife-guru, Millionaire-guru (I got an inheritance), Hollywood-guru, Pedophile-guru, LSD-guru (off ya head), Same-sex marriage-guru, and of course, let's not forget Brahmacarini harem-guru. As you can see the list goes on and on, so there really is a place for us all to be looked after in our retirement.
Only blip on the radar I can see is that if we are all diksa-gurus, where the heck is the daksine coming from, as there won't be any disciples...? I knew there had to be a catch somewhere. Oh well, back to study the Sastra again! Maybe there is a better way.
Your most humble servant,
Downunder dasanudas
[PADA: Some people keep saying PADA is not having any effect, yet notice that this person uses our "bogus guru species" terms such as: porno guru, retired guru, homosex guru, pedophile guru, in sum, all the terms we used starting in the early 1980s. Sorry, our idea, -- and our "guru species catch phrases and terms," are being used more and more, and all over the place.
At the same time notice what this letter is also saying, the GBC often says "everyone can be a guru," but in case we have not noticed, the GBC first of all kicked out thousands of people first of all, because apparently, only a few of their elite faction can be gurus, not "everyone."
This is another example of the hypocrisy of their position. In any event, we need to see if people are qualified before rubber stamping bunches and bunches of them as gurus, that is the general consensus that everyone seems to be gradually agreeing to, both in and out of ISKCON. And we'd like to thank this writer for identifying a previously unknown species, the Brahmacharini harem guru. Thanks, we will ad that one to our list of bogus species! ys pd]
Vyasa Puja Offering by Ameyatma dasa (2013)
VyasPuja Offering : 2013
My Dear Srīla Prabhupād - All Glories, All Glories, All Glories to Your Toes.
Each and every one of them.
Each and every one of them.
Many decades ago, in the fall of 1980, my dear Srīla Prabhupād, you appeared to me in a dream. That dream was more real than this world. It has been decades, but, I will never forget what you told me. You gave me an instruction which you wanted me pass on to your followers.
Ashamedly, I've never done much to complete that task.
As Lord Sri Krishna told Rukmini, 'Better late than never'.
I won't relate the whole dream here, but, for the benefit of others I will share the instruction you gave. At the end of the dream I blurted out, 'Srīla Prabhupād, I just want to serve your Lotus Feet'.
In the dream as I blurted this out, I went falling toward your feet. As I looked up, you were looking down and said,
"Yes. Which one?"
'Which one?', I thought, 'Oh no, I have to decide which foot to serve'. I placed one of your feet on my lap and began massaging. Such Divine Bliss. But, then I became a little disturbed by what I thought was some blemish. In my mind I told myself any defects in the body of a pure devotee are like dark spots on the moon, they simply add to the beauty. Or like froth floating in the Ganges, one must brush it aside and take the purifying water. But, my mind continued to be disturbed. I became distraught and looked up at you. You compassionately told me, "That's all right. Massage the other foot", as you withdrew that foot and placed the other on my lap.
I massaged from the heel to the toes, and never again did my mind disturb me. I began massaging this toe, the next, the next, from small to large and back again. After some time I found this one toe that just seemed so wonderful. I really liked massaging that toe and kept coming back to that toe. I felt like I could serve that toe for the rest of my life, it just made me happy to be in the association of that toe.
But, I thought, what will you think, Srīla Prabhupād, if I mostly massaged just this one toe?
Thinking like this, I looked up, and suddenly your form towered into the sky, and looking down, you told me,
"Yes, my disciples are like my toes. It doesn't matter which one you serve. Simply find the toe you like the best and serve that one."
Just then my sleep broke and you again departed from my presence. But, as I woke I understood that you wanted me to tell everyone about this dream.
The message was that Each and Every One of your disciples is like one of your Transcendental Toes. It doesn't matter if it's a Big, Big GBC or sannyasi toe-like disciple or the littlest toe-like disciple, Srīla Prabhupād wants everyone to know that He loves ALL His toes the same. He loves all his disciples the same. Srīla Prabhupād has no favorite toes. He has no favorite disciple. All of His Toes, and all his disciples, are worthy of our greatest and most sincere respects.
Anyone who wants to serve your Lotus Feet, Srīla Prabhupād, must offer their respects to all of the toes of your feet, and must never think badly about any one of your toes.
Please, accept my apologies Srīla Prabhupād, for taking so long to deliver this message to your followers.
Somehow or other, please forgive whatever offenses I may have committed to any one of your toes.
By your compassion and mercy you taught me that if I really want to serve you, if I really want to serve and please your Lotus Feet, than I must try and serve and please your toes. How can we win your favor if we become disrespectful to even one of your toes?
So, on this most glorious of days, let me offer my full obeisances to all of your wonderful and glorious toe-like disciples.
Only when I can finally serve all of your toes, only then can I actually serve your Lotus Feet.
Only when I can get the mercy of all your toes, only then can I actually get the mercy of your Lotus Feet.
So, again, Srīla Prabhupād:
All Glories to All Your 1,000's and 1,000's of Toes. Each and Every One. From the Biggest of the Big Toes, to the littlest of the little Toes. All of Your Toes are worthy of my respect. I am not worthy of their dust.
Aspiring to someday become a most humble and worthy servant of all of Srīla Prabhupād's toes.
Ameyātmā das
Monday, August 26, 2013
Comment and Response by Krishna Kirtan Das
RE: http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2013/08/krishna-kirtan-which-conclusion-do-you.html
Puranjana, You say that will 'approve' my reply if it's sensible, to you. In other words, only IF you can spin it right?
[PADA: I am assuming this is Krishna Kirtan das, but why was it posted as anonymous? No, we said we would post your responses if you answered the points we raised sensibly. You never do that.
For example I said the child molesting lawsuit was helping reduce the suicides of the ex-children. And Jvalamukhi dasi and many others confirmed that this suicidal tendency was going on, and she said that in fact -- not only many of the children felt suicidal, she herself felt suicidal. She said the lawsuit blew the lid off the problem. You never even express any emotion for these victims, rather you said -- saving the victims was "costing too much money from innocent people." Which is what the GBC says? And which is by the way, is what the molesters said?
The child molesting lawsuit helped the victims feel validated because it took down the wall of denial among the leaders and many of the acquiescing parents. As soon as some children told us they had been molested, some parents actually dis-owned and totally shunned these children, saying the children were causing problems for the mission. So there was a huge denial problem, and this lead to the children feeling hopeless and helpless and hence, suicidal. Your idea was that we should have continued the wall of denial, and have more suicides? Or what? You never explain your solution? You have never presented any in all this time either?
Many people, including actual experts in child psychology regarding molesting (some of whom were consulted during the case) agreed that the suicides were reduced after the suit was filed. Moreover many experts agree that a lawsuit would help the suicides because this has been proven in Catholic Church molesting cases. Look up the Catholic Church problems and you will find testimony from victims -- that lawsuits in their Church helped relieve the victims of grief and made many of the victims feel less depressed and suicidal, and helped them get their lives back on track. It gave them at least some chance to fight back and this empowered them, not just to get back on track, but also -- just to keep on living. You apparently did not want that for these victims, and I simply am baffled as to why? Were they not your associates and colleagues?
However, when I asked you about this previously, you said that many innocent people would had to pay for the suit, so it should not have been filed. Who are these innocent people? Myself and Sulochana were telling all kinds of ISKCON leaders and adult parents there was a problem, they ignored us and actually had us shunned, banned, removed, excommunicated, hunted down, and in the case of Sulochan, killed. Many parents told me that they were not going to help ever, even though it was their child who had been molested, because they think just like you do, they did not want to cause monetary expenses. OK, so this begs the question, is money more important to you folks than living people who are the children of KRISHNA (God)? All we ever hear is, what about the money? OK, but what about the dead children? No response from you folks, its like talking to the giant plastic bear at the wharf. And are the people who suppressed us, or at least failed to address this issue, "innocent"?
And people like you complain that Bhavananda was never arrested and so on. Well go get a lawyer and sue Bhavananda yourself? Quit complaining and do something? Sorry, when Lanka was burned by Hanuman, the citizens were not considered as innocent, because they were participating in an evil empire.Krishna also wipes out the demon Kings, but also -- all their compatriots, that's called collective karma.
In any case, it appears to me that people like you, the GBC, many parents, and others conspired against these children by saying that money is more important than these children, which is exactly the reason they felt suicidal in the first instance, because people like you were placing the value of money above the lives of children. And you are going to expose me? Are you kidding? We had to expose this, to save the children who were victims of your conspiracy of silence.
And this ended up exposing your "money has more value than children" program to -- millions of people? This is now old news. The cat is totally out of the bag -- that your group has more interest in saving your money, than in saving the children. You need to fix that, whereas we can say easily, millions of people agree with us, children are more important than money. We thus already have the backing of millions and millions of people on this issue, the entire mass of public all agree that these children were in a dire situation and they needed help, not your program of more shuffling under the carpet, which has been actually killing ex-children victims of your process.
You folks have been exposed to the bone by us already. You have nothing sensible to expose on me? I said this is wrong, and millions and millions of people agree with me: these victims needed help, not your people saying money is the real thing we need to help. Who agrees with you folks, whose idea is that money is more important than people, apart from you new pals like "Pancali" and her husband "Srila Prabhupada Siddhanta" (Nickalaus Evans, Christchurch NZ), who are now saying to us they support you and your program, a process that apparently desires to see the children -- die, because it seems, ALL you folks are worried about is -- money? Well, you cannot take it with you! What kind of people say molested children have to die, so we can save some money? Or what? If there is any explanation, what is it? Really, we'd all like to know!
Of course another result of the lawsuit was that Tamal was dragged out of his liar, and he went to India where he died. He is the founder father of the molester messiahs program, and no doubt behind the poison issue, and you people are crying that we made him depart? Someone is connected to the poisoning of your guru, we cause that someone to depart, and you folks are crying about me causing him to depart? Even Pancali is crying that Judas has departed and she complains that this is all "bad publicity." So, she wants Judas to live, and the molested children to die. Or what? We never get any answer!
Judas is gone, thanks to the lawsuit, and you folks are apparently crying -- that Judas is gone? That means you are still tethered to the apparent poisoners party? Or what? Just explain this once and for all? Please! And now you have got poor Pancali crying that the apparent poisoner party leader of our guru is gone, so I should say, you are brainwashing her? What kind of people cry that the apparent poisoner party leader -- of their own guru -- is dead? The Judas of ISKCON is dead, and you folks are crying over that? Why? Brainwashed people? Or sympathizers with Judas and the crucifiers? Or what? No one ever explains this? Why is that?
Why are you not crying that children are dead instead of Judas being dead? Instead of crying that we caused Tamal to depart, why are you not crying that Srila Prabhupada departed instead? You are crying that Judas and crucifier party leader is dead, but show no symptoms of crying for the person who was crucified? You are trying to repress me for bringing the whole issue up, so you can save the poisoner party? Or what?
So I have to admit being baffled, you folks are not crying over the victims, you are crying for the lawsuit that took out the life of the founder father of the entire molester pooja process, and leader of the apparent poison party? So with all due respect, we have been asking about this since the 1990s and never get any good replies either from you or from the people who argue like yourself. Anyway, for the record, most of our associates are crying in happiness that Judas is gone and they find it incomprehensible that you folks are crying that Judas is gone instead? This makes no sense, unless, there is sympathy for Judas? Or what? Silence means acceptance.]
KK: But if you can't it won't be posted. What a joke. If my article was sensible enough for you to post, why would you not accept my reply in full? Because you are simply too concerned and worried about being exposed. Incidentally, this article was not intended to be only about the poison issue, like you're trying to make it it out to be. I've known about the poison issue since it started coming out in the late 90s, and it was never because of you that I became aware of it.
[PADA: OK, so name the web site that has those early 1990 documents you claim exist? When we got the tape, there was no other transcript because, I would have loved to have had a Hindi translation to work from, there was none. If you can show us where that was done, and tell us who was doing it, we'd all like to know. You don't do that. Why?]
KK: What you are famous for is to always try to own every narrative and big issue in order to amass credibility to yourself, and then proceed to manipulate it and turn it into a hate contest. Psyops. Tim Lee, you really do not deserve anymore of anyone's time. There is already a group on Facebook (not created by me) intent on exposing you, and in fact that has already been done very nicely on
[PADA: Well goody, but all you have done is exposed yourself. You have no good reason to say that money is more important than children's lives. I already exposed you people for having that mentality anyway? Millions of people already know about how your process works, which is the reason for the lawsuit in the first place. You simply confirmed what the ex-children said, you people are only worried about money and not the children. Or?
You also have no proof there was an early 1990s poison issue expose. You are now working with Prahlad, who is promoting beef eater DVDs. I have seen your "group," which also has serious illuminati cracker pots, various anti-semites, and other folks who are not able to even produce one philosophical position paper, ever. And you are their leader? I do not need your group or care about your group, people have wanted to have me killed since 1977, you people are peanuts compared to what we already went through.]
KK: You deserve no more of anyone's time. There is already a group intent on exposing you, and in fact that has already been done very nicely. It would have been my pleasure to post a full reply to your comments, but I can not do under suppression. You spill hate towards anyone and everything years on end, and when someone wants to call you.
[PADA: OK, so you are working with the beef eater DVD program, the illuminati nuts -- the anti semites, the people who say money is more important than children, the people who are crying that Tamal is dead, never mind he is the apparent poison case founder father, and you think you are making me look bad? Are you serious? Anyway, if you have any replies to these points,we'd like to see them. And you think all of this above is not hateful?
The fact is, we never do get sensible replies, ever since 1977, we ask all kinds of question like these, and there is no reply. Yet my offer stands, give me sensible replies and I will post them.
At the same time, the fact that you had to start a group that has one topic, me, means, you are officially yourself only thinking of me and nothing else? My friends tell me they get messages from you folks every day, about me, and nothing else? Puranjan ate a banana, he stepped on dog manure, he picked up a toothbrush, he stole my lassi out of the kitchen. You are thus thinking of me, talking about me. meditating on me, chatting all day long about me, gossiping about me like a bunch of old grandmothers, don't you people have an actual life of your own? You are living your life through mine, that is very sad to say the least. It means you have no life. You have become like stalkers, they have no life of their own, they live through the person they are stalking, they are considered as -- losers. And that is what many of my friends are saying, you people are stalker / losers.
Why not go to an old folks home and teach them some yoga classes or something, and do something useful for a change? Hating me will not solve any of this, these issues need sensible responses and intelligent analysis. And without that, ISKCON will never get fixed, and none of these problems will go ever go away, they will keep re-manifesting. Its up to you folks to try to make some genuine intelligent statements on these issues, Again, you need to give me sensible replies and I will post them, hypebole is not fixing a thing, and never has. I think you are a serious devotee and would like to see some of these things resolved, well I am willing to try. And that is why I tried to give my side of the story to some extent here. Jaya! Haribol. In any case, I am your servant nonetheless no matter what else happens, ys pd]
Puranjana, You say that will 'approve' my reply if it's sensible, to you. In other words, only IF you can spin it right?
[PADA: I am assuming this is Krishna Kirtan das, but why was it posted as anonymous? No, we said we would post your responses if you answered the points we raised sensibly. You never do that.
For example I said the child molesting lawsuit was helping reduce the suicides of the ex-children. And Jvalamukhi dasi and many others confirmed that this suicidal tendency was going on, and she said that in fact -- not only many of the children felt suicidal, she herself felt suicidal. She said the lawsuit blew the lid off the problem. You never even express any emotion for these victims, rather you said -- saving the victims was "costing too much money from innocent people." Which is what the GBC says? And which is by the way, is what the molesters said?
The child molesting lawsuit helped the victims feel validated because it took down the wall of denial among the leaders and many of the acquiescing parents. As soon as some children told us they had been molested, some parents actually dis-owned and totally shunned these children, saying the children were causing problems for the mission. So there was a huge denial problem, and this lead to the children feeling hopeless and helpless and hence, suicidal. Your idea was that we should have continued the wall of denial, and have more suicides? Or what? You never explain your solution? You have never presented any in all this time either?
Many people, including actual experts in child psychology regarding molesting (some of whom were consulted during the case) agreed that the suicides were reduced after the suit was filed. Moreover many experts agree that a lawsuit would help the suicides because this has been proven in Catholic Church molesting cases. Look up the Catholic Church problems and you will find testimony from victims -- that lawsuits in their Church helped relieve the victims of grief and made many of the victims feel less depressed and suicidal, and helped them get their lives back on track. It gave them at least some chance to fight back and this empowered them, not just to get back on track, but also -- just to keep on living. You apparently did not want that for these victims, and I simply am baffled as to why? Were they not your associates and colleagues?
However, when I asked you about this previously, you said that many innocent people would had to pay for the suit, so it should not have been filed. Who are these innocent people? Myself and Sulochana were telling all kinds of ISKCON leaders and adult parents there was a problem, they ignored us and actually had us shunned, banned, removed, excommunicated, hunted down, and in the case of Sulochan, killed. Many parents told me that they were not going to help ever, even though it was their child who had been molested, because they think just like you do, they did not want to cause monetary expenses. OK, so this begs the question, is money more important to you folks than living people who are the children of KRISHNA (God)? All we ever hear is, what about the money? OK, but what about the dead children? No response from you folks, its like talking to the giant plastic bear at the wharf. And are the people who suppressed us, or at least failed to address this issue, "innocent"?
And people like you complain that Bhavananda was never arrested and so on. Well go get a lawyer and sue Bhavananda yourself? Quit complaining and do something? Sorry, when Lanka was burned by Hanuman, the citizens were not considered as innocent, because they were participating in an evil empire.Krishna also wipes out the demon Kings, but also -- all their compatriots, that's called collective karma.
In any case, it appears to me that people like you, the GBC, many parents, and others conspired against these children by saying that money is more important than these children, which is exactly the reason they felt suicidal in the first instance, because people like you were placing the value of money above the lives of children. And you are going to expose me? Are you kidding? We had to expose this, to save the children who were victims of your conspiracy of silence.
And this ended up exposing your "money has more value than children" program to -- millions of people? This is now old news. The cat is totally out of the bag -- that your group has more interest in saving your money, than in saving the children. You need to fix that, whereas we can say easily, millions of people agree with us, children are more important than money. We thus already have the backing of millions and millions of people on this issue, the entire mass of public all agree that these children were in a dire situation and they needed help, not your program of more shuffling under the carpet, which has been actually killing ex-children victims of your process.
You folks have been exposed to the bone by us already. You have nothing sensible to expose on me? I said this is wrong, and millions and millions of people agree with me: these victims needed help, not your people saying money is the real thing we need to help. Who agrees with you folks, whose idea is that money is more important than people, apart from you new pals like "Pancali" and her husband "Srila Prabhupada Siddhanta" (Nickalaus Evans, Christchurch NZ), who are now saying to us they support you and your program, a process that apparently desires to see the children -- die, because it seems, ALL you folks are worried about is -- money? Well, you cannot take it with you! What kind of people say molested children have to die, so we can save some money? Or what? If there is any explanation, what is it? Really, we'd all like to know!
Of course another result of the lawsuit was that Tamal was dragged out of his liar, and he went to India where he died. He is the founder father of the molester messiahs program, and no doubt behind the poison issue, and you people are crying that we made him depart? Someone is connected to the poisoning of your guru, we cause that someone to depart, and you folks are crying about me causing him to depart? Even Pancali is crying that Judas has departed and she complains that this is all "bad publicity." So, she wants Judas to live, and the molested children to die. Or what? We never get any answer!
Judas is gone, thanks to the lawsuit, and you folks are apparently crying -- that Judas is gone? That means you are still tethered to the apparent poisoners party? Or what? Just explain this once and for all? Please! And now you have got poor Pancali crying that the apparent poisoner party leader of our guru is gone, so I should say, you are brainwashing her? What kind of people cry that the apparent poisoner party leader -- of their own guru -- is dead? The Judas of ISKCON is dead, and you folks are crying over that? Why? Brainwashed people? Or sympathizers with Judas and the crucifiers? Or what? No one ever explains this? Why is that?
Why are you not crying that children are dead instead of Judas being dead? Instead of crying that we caused Tamal to depart, why are you not crying that Srila Prabhupada departed instead? You are crying that Judas and crucifier party leader is dead, but show no symptoms of crying for the person who was crucified? You are trying to repress me for bringing the whole issue up, so you can save the poisoner party? Or what?
So I have to admit being baffled, you folks are not crying over the victims, you are crying for the lawsuit that took out the life of the founder father of the entire molester pooja process, and leader of the apparent poison party? So with all due respect, we have been asking about this since the 1990s and never get any good replies either from you or from the people who argue like yourself. Anyway, for the record, most of our associates are crying in happiness that Judas is gone and they find it incomprehensible that you folks are crying that Judas is gone instead? This makes no sense, unless, there is sympathy for Judas? Or what? Silence means acceptance.]
KK: But if you can't it won't be posted. What a joke. If my article was sensible enough for you to post, why would you not accept my reply in full? Because you are simply too concerned and worried about being exposed. Incidentally, this article was not intended to be only about the poison issue, like you're trying to make it it out to be. I've known about the poison issue since it started coming out in the late 90s, and it was never because of you that I became aware of it.
[PADA: OK, so name the web site that has those early 1990 documents you claim exist? When we got the tape, there was no other transcript because, I would have loved to have had a Hindi translation to work from, there was none. If you can show us where that was done, and tell us who was doing it, we'd all like to know. You don't do that. Why?]
KK: What you are famous for is to always try to own every narrative and big issue in order to amass credibility to yourself, and then proceed to manipulate it and turn it into a hate contest. Psyops. Tim Lee, you really do not deserve anymore of anyone's time. There is already a group on Facebook (not created by me) intent on exposing you, and in fact that has already been done very nicely on
[PADA: Well goody, but all you have done is exposed yourself. You have no good reason to say that money is more important than children's lives. I already exposed you people for having that mentality anyway? Millions of people already know about how your process works, which is the reason for the lawsuit in the first place. You simply confirmed what the ex-children said, you people are only worried about money and not the children. Or?
You also have no proof there was an early 1990s poison issue expose. You are now working with Prahlad, who is promoting beef eater DVDs. I have seen your "group," which also has serious illuminati cracker pots, various anti-semites, and other folks who are not able to even produce one philosophical position paper, ever. And you are their leader? I do not need your group or care about your group, people have wanted to have me killed since 1977, you people are peanuts compared to what we already went through.]
KK: You deserve no more of anyone's time. There is already a group intent on exposing you, and in fact that has already been done very nicely. It would have been my pleasure to post a full reply to your comments, but I can not do under suppression. You spill hate towards anyone and everything years on end, and when someone wants to call you.
[PADA: OK, so you are working with the beef eater DVD program, the illuminati nuts -- the anti semites, the people who say money is more important than children, the people who are crying that Tamal is dead, never mind he is the apparent poison case founder father, and you think you are making me look bad? Are you serious? Anyway, if you have any replies to these points,we'd like to see them. And you think all of this above is not hateful?
The fact is, we never do get sensible replies, ever since 1977, we ask all kinds of question like these, and there is no reply. Yet my offer stands, give me sensible replies and I will post them.
At the same time, the fact that you had to start a group that has one topic, me, means, you are officially yourself only thinking of me and nothing else? My friends tell me they get messages from you folks every day, about me, and nothing else? Puranjan ate a banana, he stepped on dog manure, he picked up a toothbrush, he stole my lassi out of the kitchen. You are thus thinking of me, talking about me. meditating on me, chatting all day long about me, gossiping about me like a bunch of old grandmothers, don't you people have an actual life of your own? You are living your life through mine, that is very sad to say the least. It means you have no life. You have become like stalkers, they have no life of their own, they live through the person they are stalking, they are considered as -- losers. And that is what many of my friends are saying, you people are stalker / losers.
Why not go to an old folks home and teach them some yoga classes or something, and do something useful for a change? Hating me will not solve any of this, these issues need sensible responses and intelligent analysis. And without that, ISKCON will never get fixed, and none of these problems will go ever go away, they will keep re-manifesting. Its up to you folks to try to make some genuine intelligent statements on these issues, Again, you need to give me sensible replies and I will post them, hypebole is not fixing a thing, and never has. I think you are a serious devotee and would like to see some of these things resolved, well I am willing to try. And that is why I tried to give my side of the story to some extent here. Jaya! Haribol. In any case, I am your servant nonetheless no matter what else happens, ys pd]
Vyasa Puja Offering by By Yasoda nandana dasa pt.1
Sri Vyasa Puja 2013
By Yasoda nandana dasa
Nama Om Vishnu Padaya Krsna Presthaya bhutale
Srimate bhaktivedanta Swamin iti namine
Namaste Sarasvate deve Gauravanui Pracarine
Nirvisesas sunyvadi pascatya desatarine
Srila Prabhupad, you are the captain of the ship of the Krsna Consciousness Movement.
tvaṁ naḥ sandarśito dhātrā
dustaraṁ nistitīrṣatām
kaliṁ sattva-haraṁ puṁsāṁ
karṇa-dhāra ivārṇavam
SYNONYMS
tvam—Your Goodness; naḥ—unto us; sandarśitaḥ—meeting; dhātrā—by providence; dustaram—insurmountable; nistitīrṣatām—for those desiring to cross over;kalim—the age of Kali; sattva-haram—that which deteriorates the good qualities; puṁsām—of a man; karṇa-dhāraḥ—captain; iva—as; arṇavam—the ocean.
TRANSLATION
We think that we have met Your Goodness by the will of providence, just so that we may accept you as captain of the ship for those who desire to cross the difficult ocean of Kali, which deteriorates all the good qualities of a human being.
You mercifully give all instructions and guidance for all aspects of spiritual; life. Juts like a ship captain gives all warnings to the mates on the ship of impending dangers such as storms, strong winds, you have also given us plenty of warnings of potential problems on all issues..
Srila Prabhupada, you have described the proper process of presenting Krsna Consciousness "As it is":
"I have seen your advertisements as shown to me by Shyamasundar, and I think you have made the thing less important. This kind of ad is not good, it is not grave. Our process is to show Krsna consciousness as it is, not as others want to see it. By showing Krsna consciousness in this way, you are making the thing less important. It is not that we should change to accommodate the public, but that we should change the public to accommodate us.... These books are the best advertising, they are better than advertising.
"One thing, on the invitation card you have written All Glories to Our Guru Maharaja. This is impersonalism. As soon as we offer obeisances to Guru, the name should be there. We are strictly personalists. The sahajiyas write Glories to Guru. Why you are learning this impersonalism, who has taught you? Daily I am offering obeisances to my Guru by vibrating his real name, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati, otherwise it is impersonal. SPL to Bhavananda)
It seems that your secretaries missed an important warning when they claimed in the BBTI vs Hamsadutta litigation that you were simply a "worker for hire," or an employee of ISKCON: "One should stop thinking of the spiritual master as an ordinary human being with a material body."
So many warnings, so many instructions and so many valuable insight have be disregarded or simply ignored.
You have cautioned about the great danger of defying the authority of Guru.
You have also warned about the danger of guru mara vidya:
"The instructions given to the disciple by the Spiritual Master at the time of initiation should be strictly followed. That will make one advance to the spiritual path. But if one deliberately defies such instructions, then his advancement is hampered from the very beginning. This defying means to disconnect the relationship with the Spiritual Master. And anyone who defies and therefore disconnects the relationship with the Spiritual Master can hardly expect the assistance of the Spiritual Master life after life. I hope this will clear up this question sufficiently for you ." (Letter to Jayapataka Los Angeles, 1969)
"And I am surprised that none of the GBC members detected the defects in the procedure. It was detected only when it came to me. What will happen when I am not here, shall everything by spoiled by GBC? So for the time being, let the GBC activities be suspended until I thoroughly revise the whole procedure. In the meantime, you do your duty as president of Hamburg Temple, and try to improve spiritually.
By Yasoda nandana dasa
Nama Om Vishnu Padaya Krsna Presthaya bhutale
Srimate bhaktivedanta Swamin iti namine
Namaste Sarasvate deve Gauravanui Pracarine
Nirvisesas sunyvadi pascatya desatarine
Srila Prabhupad, you are the captain of the ship of the Krsna Consciousness Movement.
tvaṁ naḥ sandarśito dhātrā
dustaraṁ nistitīrṣatām
kaliṁ sattva-haraṁ puṁsāṁ
karṇa-dhāra ivārṇavam
SYNONYMS
tvam—Your Goodness; naḥ—unto us; sandarśitaḥ—meeting; dhātrā—by providence; dustaram—insurmountable; nistitīrṣatām—for those desiring to cross over;kalim—the age of Kali; sattva-haram—that which deteriorates the good qualities; puṁsām—of a man; karṇa-dhāraḥ—captain; iva—as; arṇavam—the ocean.
TRANSLATION
We think that we have met Your Goodness by the will of providence, just so that we may accept you as captain of the ship for those who desire to cross the difficult ocean of Kali, which deteriorates all the good qualities of a human being.
You mercifully give all instructions and guidance for all aspects of spiritual; life. Juts like a ship captain gives all warnings to the mates on the ship of impending dangers such as storms, strong winds, you have also given us plenty of warnings of potential problems on all issues..
You have given the basic formula for your society
"I wish that every temple shall retain their independent identity and keeping the acharya [himself] in the center." (SPL February 11, 1967
You have iunstructed on purity "A little bit of a pure thing"
"We are not concerned with any other movement save and except Krsna consciousness in its pure form. In India it is said that a little bit of a pure thing is much better than huge volumes of impure, adulterated things. So please try to follow this policy..."(SPL letter to Brahmananda, 8/27/69)
Srila Prabhupada, you have informed us : The central point is order of the spiritual master: "Therefore the management should be done very cautiously so that everyone is satisfied in their autonomous managing capacity. Of course the central point is the order of the Spiritual Master and I am very glad that you are trying to give importance to this aspect of management. The difficulty is sometimes things are interpreted in a manner dovetailing one's own sense gratification. I have got this personal experience in my Guru Maharaja's institution.
Different Godbrothers took the words of Guru Maharaja in different interpretations for sense gratification and the whole mission disrupted. This is still going on for the last 40 years without any proper settlement. I am always afraid of this crack, but I am sure if our aim is to serve Krishna sincerely and the Spiritual Master simultaneously, that will be our success." (Sp letter , 10/18/69)
Srila Prabhupada you have warned us not to change our principles:
"I am pleased to note that there is interest in having our Sankirtan. Party perform in various public engagements. The same thing is going on here, and they have been invited to such places as Amsterdam and Germany. So if you can also do this, it is nice. But do not change our principles. Practicing is already done by kirtan. It is not required for us to become artists. Our main point is service to Krishna, not to please an audience. We shall not divert our attention too much to adjustment of musical sounds. People should not misunderstand that we are a band of musical artists. They must know that we are devotees of Krishna. Our devotional practice and purity should be so strong that wherever we chant there shall be immediately an impression in the audience for devotion to Krishna." (SPL 10/30/69)
"I am pleased to note that there is interest in having our Sankirtan. Party perform in various public engagements. The same thing is going on here, and they have been invited to such places as Amsterdam and Germany. So if you can also do this, it is nice. But do not change our principles. Practicing is already done by kirtan. It is not required for us to become artists. Our main point is service to Krishna, not to please an audience. We shall not divert our attention too much to adjustment of musical sounds. People should not misunderstand that we are a band of musical artists. They must know that we are devotees of Krishna. Our devotional practice and purity should be so strong that wherever we chant there shall be immediately an impression in the audience for devotion to Krishna." (SPL 10/30/69)
Srila Prabhupada, you have cautioned us about the dangers of personal ambition, and not using the Krsna Consciousness movement to fulfill one's personal ambition.
"Our life is very short. The Krsna consciousness movement is not meant for fulfilling one's personal ambition, but it is a serious movement for the whole world." (SPL, 7/31/70)
Srila Prabhupada, you have kindly warned us about the danger of self-interested misinterpretation, and the results of of personal motivation: "Not possible for one to understand KC."
"In my books I have tried to explain clearly this simultaneously one and different philosophy, 'acintya bheda bheda tattva', propounded by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. But sometimes it happens that this philosophy is given a self-interested interpretation. As soon as personal motivation comes in it is not possible for one to understand our Krsna consciousness philosophy." (SPL to Ishan, 9/70)
"In my books I have tried to explain clearly this simultaneously one and different philosophy, 'acintya bheda bheda tattva', propounded by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. But sometimes it happens that this philosophy is given a self-interested interpretation. As soon as personal motivation comes in it is not possible for one to understand our Krsna consciousness philosophy." (SPL to Ishan, 9/70)
"As alleged by you I have received complaints against Bali Mardan and his wife, so seriously so much so that the girl has declared that Bali Mardan is an incarnation of Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Thakura on my name. In India some of the important members they have collected huge amounts in the name of the Society and spent it luxuriously.
I wanted you all my experienced disciples should manage the whole institution very cleverly without any personal ambition like ordinary materialistic men. The Gaudiya Math institution has become smashed, at least stopped its program of preaching work on account of personal ambitions.
So whatever is done is done. I shall request you all not to be personally ambitious. I shall do everything in my power to fulfill your personal ambition, but that will be done in due course of time when you are fully trained up and following the regulative principles and chanting 16 rounds." (SPL to Karandhar, 10/8/74)
You have also pointed about the danger of thinking for one’s personal benefit.We have worked very hard and established a great institution, but if we think for our personal benefit then it will become ruined. This is my only concern." (SPL to Chayavana, 11/1/74)
Srila Prabhupada, you have repeatedly warned us about the poison of personal ambition: "Regarding Brahmananda, he is actually surrendered soul, but Maya is so strong that on account of association he has even fallen down. So these two things are always side-by-side: Maya and Krsna; Krsna is service and Maya is sense gratification, so every moment we are prone to be subjugated by either of them.
Our duty is therefore to be very, very careful. The poison is personal ambition. So everyone has the chance, therefore one should not be complacent. Doubts may come about, but one should be firmly fixed up that there cannot be any doubt on the Spiritual Master or Krsna. (SPL to Satyabhama, 11/7/70)
Srila Prabhupada, you have clearly spoken on the future hope of solid standing of our mission: "The future hope of solid standing of our mission is on the proper management of our governing body. Now we are increasing in volume. The area of our activity is expanding. Under the circumstances, if our management goes on nicely to maintain our prestige and good name, that will be our success. Such status quo can be maintained only on our being freed from any kind of sense gratifying attitude, because pure devotional service means: 'anyabhilasita sunyam,' or without any other desire than to satisfy Krishna." (SPL to Bhagavan 2/16/71)
Srila Prabhupada, you have described the proper process of presenting Krsna Consciousness "As it is":
"I have seen your advertisements as shown to me by Shyamasundar, and I think you have made the thing less important. This kind of ad is not good, it is not grave. Our process is to show Krsna consciousness as it is, not as others want to see it. By showing Krsna consciousness in this way, you are making the thing less important. It is not that we should change to accommodate the public, but that we should change the public to accommodate us.... These books are the best advertising, they are better than advertising.
If we simply present Krsna consciousness in a serious and attractive way, without need to resort to fashionable slogans or tricks, that is sufficient. Our unique asset is our purity. No one anywhere can match it. That will be noticed eventually and appreciated, as long as we do not diminish or neglect the highest standard of purity in performing our routine work, not that we require to display or announce ourselves in very clever ways to get attention. No, our pure standard is enough. Let us stand on that basis." (SPL to Yogesvara, 12/28/71)
Srila Prabhupada's you have explained about the result of not sticking to point of regulative principles and purest standards of high living: "One thing, if we are not very careful to always stick to the point of regulative principles and purest standards of high living, then everything will spoil very quickly and the whole show will be a farce. So impress this point in your preaching for training the younger devotees, they will follow your example in all respects." (SPL tob Rebatinandan, 2/2/72)
"One thing, on the invitation card you have written All Glories to Our Guru Maharaja. This is impersonalism. As soon as we offer obeisances to Guru, the name should be there. We are strictly personalists. The sahajiyas write Glories to Guru. Why you are learning this impersonalism, who has taught you? Daily I am offering obeisances to my Guru by vibrating his real name, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati, otherwise it is impersonal. SPL to Bhavananda)
"So far Dayananda, I have no objection if the grihastas live outside and earn money, but I do not want them to leave. The strict temple procedure is only for those who live in the temple. Grihastas should live outside, and they cannot follow strictly everything, but why they should give up altogether their devotional procedures? So many big stalwart devotees are leaving, why is this? Advaita, Uddhava, Krsnadasa, and now our Dayananda and Nandarani. I have sent them each one letter, so if you find them, you may deliver them my letters. This is not at all good if our big devotees fall down so easily and go away. Try to save them." (SPL to Karandhar, 7/14/72)
You have also clearly sounded the alarm about manufacturing anything: "Now you are my elder disciples and both of you are sannyasis and also advanced in Krsna consciousness, so these questions should not arise amongst you again and again. That means everyone is not conscientious. These things are not new to you-why do you continually ask these question? The GBC authority must be accepted under all circumstances, not that there will be fighting amongst you.
This fighting spirit will destroy everything, but what can I do, you American and European boys are trained up in this fighting attitude. Now put it aside and simply work cooperatively for spreading this movement all over the world. The standards I have already given you, now try to maintain them at all times under standard procedure. Do not try to innovate or create anything or manufacture anything, that will ruin everything. Simply do as I am doing and be always serious and sincere to serve Krsna, and He will give you intelligence how to do everything." (Spl to Bali Mardan & Pusta Krsna, 9/18/72)
You have also clearly warned your leaders on the mistake of the Gaudiya Matha: "If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC, who would come out successful and self-effulgent acarya would be automatically selected.
So Sridhar Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha-adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the acarya is being changed three times in a year. Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp. Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya.
So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We must be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them." (SPL to Rupanuga, 4/28/74)
"Now by the grace of Krishna we have got sufficient properties all over the world, so there cannot be any diplomacy or conspiracy by any sane man. All these properties and opulences, whatever we have got, this will not go with me when I go away from this world. It will remain here. I am training some of my experienced disciples how to manage after my departure. So if instead of taking th etraining if in my life time you people say I am the Lord of all I survey, that is dangerous conspiracy." (`SPL to Karandhar, 10/8/74)
"I am in due receipt of your letter addressed to Rupanuga dasa dated September 16, 1975 and have noted the contents. Why is there this politics? This is not good. If politics come, then the preaching will be stopped. That is the difficulty. As soon as politics come, everything is spoiled. In the Gaudiya Math the politics is still going on. My Guru Maharaja left in 1936, and now it is 1967, so after 40 years the litigation is still going on. Do not come to this." SPL to Gurukripa, 9/30/75)
"My only grievance is that I appointed GBC to give me relief from the management but, on the contrary, complaints and counter-complaints are coming to me. Then how my brain can be peaceful. Naturally, I want to see that all of my centers are going nicely, so it is not possible to mitigate the differences of opinion and work smoothly, conjointly. So best thing is that we wait for the Mayapur meeting and decide there combinedly what to do.
"The local management has to be done by temple president. GBC should see whether management is going on nicely, and if there are any discrepancies that will be discussed at the GBC meeting in Mayapur. That is the process. Sannyasis are meant for preaching only. That is the principle. But, contrary to the principle, if things are being embezzled then how can I save them. How one man can manage the whole world affairs? This is my concern. So far I know you are approved manager, so why complaints are there, I do not know." (SPL to Jayatirtha, 10/16/75)
Srila Prabhupada, you have also warned us not to envy the bona fide acarya: "If one poses himself as an acarya but does not have an attitude of servitorship to the Lord, he must be considered an offender, and this offensive attitude disqualifies him from being an ācārya. The bona fide spiritual master always engages in unalloyed devotional service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. By this test he is known to be a direct manifestation of the Lord and a genuine representative of Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu.
Such a spiritual master is known as ācāryadeva. Influenced by an envious temperament and dissatisfied because of an attitude of sense gratification, mundaners criticize a real ācārya. In fact, however, a bona fide acarya is nondifferent from the Personality of Godhead, and therefore to envy such an acarya is to envy the Personality of Godhead Himself. This will produce an effect subversive of transcendental realization. Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila The Spiritual Masters : Adi 1.46
"Acaryam mam vijaniyam. Krsna says, "Acarya means I am." Navamanyeta karhicit: "Do not try to neglect." Na martya-buddhyāsūyeta: 'Do not consider the acarya, the spiritual master, as ordinary human being and become envious.' These things are warned. Acaryam mam vijaniyam navamanyeta karhicit, na martya-buddhyasuyeta [SB 11.17.27]. Familiarity breeds contempt. That is not good. Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures : Canto 6: Lectures : SB 6.1: Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.28-29 -- Philadelphia, July 13, 1975
Soon after your departure some of your editors went to work, under the pretext of improving your Bhagavad-Gita As It Is, and impertinently deleted your honorific title of the “greatest exponent of Krsna Consciousness in the Western World” from the original edition.
They even had the audacity to delete your Guru Maharaja’s picture, Gaura Kishora dasa babaji and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura from the original edition,
Books Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 8: "Withdrawal of the Cosmic Creations" : SB 8.3: Gajendra's Prayers of Surrender : SB 8.3.2 : PURPORT: "In this verse the words etac cid-atmakam are very important. The material body certainly consists only of material elements, but when one awakens to Kṛṣṇa conscious understanding, the body is no longer material but spiritual. The material body is meant for sense enjoyment, whereas the spiritual body engages in the transcendental loving service of the Lord.
"Acaryam mam vijaniyam. Krsna says, "Acarya means I am." Navamanyeta karhicit: "Do not try to neglect." Na martya-buddhyāsūyeta: 'Do not consider the acarya, the spiritual master, as ordinary human being and become envious.' These things are warned. Acaryam mam vijaniyam navamanyeta karhicit, na martya-buddhyasuyeta [SB 11.17.27]. Familiarity breeds contempt. That is not good. Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures : Canto 6: Lectures : SB 6.1: Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.28-29 -- Philadelphia, July 13, 1975
Soon after your departure some of your editors went to work, under the pretext of improving your Bhagavad-Gita As It Is, and impertinently deleted your honorific title of the “greatest exponent of Krsna Consciousness in the Western World” from the original edition.
They even had the audacity to delete your Guru Maharaja’s picture, Gaura Kishora dasa babaji and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura from the original edition,
Books Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 8: "Withdrawal of the Cosmic Creations" : SB 8.3: Gajendra's Prayers of Surrender : SB 8.3.2 : PURPORT: "In this verse the words etac cid-atmakam are very important. The material body certainly consists only of material elements, but when one awakens to Kṛṣṇa conscious understanding, the body is no longer material but spiritual. The material body is meant for sense enjoyment, whereas the spiritual body engages in the transcendental loving service of the Lord.
Therefore, a devotee who engages in the service of the Supreme Lord and who constantly thinks of Him should never be considered to have a material body. It is therefore enjoined, gurusu nara-matih: one should stop thinking of the spiritual master as an ordinary human being with a material body. Arcye visnau sila-dhih: everyone knows that the Deity in the temple is made of stone, but to think that the Deity is merely stone is an offense.
Similarly, to think that the body of the spiritual master consists of material ingredients is offensive. Atheists think that devotees foolishly worship a stone statue as God and an ordinary man as the guru. The fact is, however, that by the grace of Kṛṣṇa’s omnipotence, the so-called stone statue of the Deity is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the body of the spiritual master is directly spiritual. A pure devotee who is engaged in unalloyed devotional service should be understood to be situated on the transcendental platform (sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate [Bg. 14.26]). Let us therefore offer our obeisances unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead, by whose mercy so-called material things also become spiritual when they are engaged in spiritual activity."
Srila Prabhupada, you have explained what one should do if one concludes that a person or devotee does not represent the original acarya:
"Personal realization does not mean that one should, out of vanity, attempt to show one's own learning by trying to surpass the previous ācārya. He must have full confidence in the previous ācārya, and at the same time he must realize the subject matter so nicely that he can present the matter for the particular circumstances in a suitable manner. The original purpose of the text must be maintained.
Srila Prabhupada, you have explained what one should do if one concludes that a person or devotee does not represent the original acarya:
"Personal realization does not mean that one should, out of vanity, attempt to show one's own learning by trying to surpass the previous ācārya. He must have full confidence in the previous ācārya, and at the same time he must realize the subject matter so nicely that he can present the matter for the particular circumstances in a suitable manner. The original purpose of the text must be maintained.
No obscure meaning should be screwed out of it, yet it should be presented in an interesting manner for the understanding of the audience. This is called realization. The leader of the assembly, Śaunaka, could estimate the value of the speaker, Śrī Sūta Gosvāmī, simply by his uttering yathādhītamand yathā-mati, and therefore he was very glad to congratulate him in ecstasy. No learned man should be willing to hear a person who does not represent the original ācārya." Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 1: "Creation" : SB 1.4: The Appearance of Sri Narada : SB 1.4.1
"Sukadeva Gosvami was then surrounded by saintly sages and demigods just as the moon is surrounded by stars, planets and other heavenly bodies. His presence was gorgeous, and he was respected by all."
"In the great assembly of saintly personalities, there was Vyasadeva the brahmarsi, Narada the devarsi, Parasurama the great ruler of the ksatriya kings, etc. Some of them were powerful incarnations of the Lord. Śukadeva Gosvāmī was not known as brahmarsi, rājarsi ordevarsi, nor was he an incarnation like Nārada, Vyāsa or Paraśurāma. And yet he excelled them in respects paid. This means that the devotee of the Lord is more honored in the world than the Lord Himself. One should therefore never minimize the importance of a devotee like Śukadeva Gosvāmī. Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 1:"Creation" : SB 1.19: The Appearance of Sukadeva Gosvami : SB 1.19.30
"Sukadeva Gosvami was then surrounded by saintly sages and demigods just as the moon is surrounded by stars, planets and other heavenly bodies. His presence was gorgeous, and he was respected by all."
"In the great assembly of saintly personalities, there was Vyasadeva the brahmarsi, Narada the devarsi, Parasurama the great ruler of the ksatriya kings, etc. Some of them were powerful incarnations of the Lord. Śukadeva Gosvāmī was not known as brahmarsi, rājarsi ordevarsi, nor was he an incarnation like Nārada, Vyāsa or Paraśurāma. And yet he excelled them in respects paid. This means that the devotee of the Lord is more honored in the world than the Lord Himself. One should therefore never minimize the importance of a devotee like Śukadeva Gosvāmī. Srimad-Bhagavatam : Canto 1:"Creation" : SB 1.19: The Appearance of Sukadeva Gosvami : SB 1.19.30
It seems that your secretaries missed an important warning when they claimed in the BBTI vs Hamsadutta litigation that you were simply a "worker for hire," or an employee of ISKCON: "One should stop thinking of the spiritual master as an ordinary human being with a material body."
So many warnings, so many instructions and so many valuable insight have be disregarded or simply ignored.
You have cautioned about the great danger of defying the authority of Guru.
"Prabhupada: (Ignoring question) Because that is offense. Guror avajna. First offense is guror avajna, defying the authority of guru. This is the first offense . So one who is offensive, how he can make advance in chanting? He cannot make. Then everything is finished in the beginning. Guror avajna. Everything is there. If one is disobeying the spiritual master, he cannot remain in the pure status of life." (BG Question Answers 1974)
You have also warned about the danger of guru mara vidya:
Yasomatinandana: Spiritual master gives knowledge, and then a disciple is eternally indebted to spiritual master.
Prabhupäda: Yes.
Yasomatinandana: It is not that, like Mayavadis, they serve the spiritual master in the beginning and then they...
Prabhupäda: Then they...
Yasomatinandana: ...themselves become...
Prabhupäda: ...throw him away, "Go away. I have now learned." Guru-mara-vidya, to, the knowledge of how to kill guru. Guru-mara-vidya. Their, the philosophy is that you cannot rise up. You take a ladder. But as soon as you rise, throw away the ladder. No more. No more needed. That is Mayavada philosophy . Our philosophy is dhyayan stuvams tasya yasas tri-sandhyam. (Morning Walk 1973)
Prabhupäda: Yes.
Yasomatinandana: It is not that, like Mayavadis, they serve the spiritual master in the beginning and then they...
Prabhupäda: Then they...
Yasomatinandana: ...themselves become...
Prabhupäda: ...throw him away, "Go away. I have now learned." Guru-mara-vidya, to, the knowledge of how to kill guru. Guru-mara-vidya. Their, the philosophy is that you cannot rise up. You take a ladder. But as soon as you rise, throw away the ladder. No more. No more needed. That is Mayavada philosophy . Our philosophy is dhyayan stuvams tasya yasas tri-sandhyam. (Morning Walk 1973)
"The instructions given to the disciple by the Spiritual Master at the time of initiation should be strictly followed. That will make one advance to the spiritual path. But if one deliberately defies such instructions, then his advancement is hampered from the very beginning. This defying means to disconnect the relationship with the Spiritual Master. And anyone who defies and therefore disconnects the relationship with the Spiritual Master can hardly expect the assistance of the Spiritual Master life after life. I hope this will clear up this question sufficiently for you ." (Letter to Jayapataka Los Angeles, 1969)
You have mercifully expressed many concerns about the image of your society: "So far your statement, "our final success will be when you actually sit tight and translate books and let us manage successfully," yes, that is my desire, but if you can do it or not, that has again disturbed me very much. Now I have given you everything, but I do not see that even the basic principles of advancement in spiritual life are always there, and sometimes there is tendency to neglect what is our real purpose of life, namely, to become mad after Krishna, and instead we become carried away by big, big talk. So I am still thinking how things will go on." (Satsvarupa, 4/10/72)
"And I am surprised that none of the GBC members detected the defects in the procedure. It was detected only when it came to me. What will happen when I am not here, shall everything by spoiled by GBC? So for the time being, let the GBC activities be suspended until I thoroughly revise the whole procedure. In the meantime, you do your duty as president of Hamburg Temple, and try to improve spiritually.
Our spiritual way should strictly observe the following points especially: 1) Neatness and cleanliness of all personal bodies. (I still see those who are initiated as brahmins, they do not even wash their hands after eating even; of course, there may be so many defects due to your births in non-brahmin families, but how long it shall go on? It is very easy thing.) 2) Chanting 16 rounds daily. (I don't think everyone is following these principles.) 3) Temple worship, which should be performed rigidly between four and ten AM.)
"I find that the devotees are still sleeping up to six, seven o'clock.
"I find that the devotees are still sleeping up to six, seven o'clock.
So in the GBC agenda I do not find any such programs for reforming our past bad habits. So kindly as President o Hamburg center you try to observe yourself all the regulative principles and see all the members are following." (Hansadutta, 4/11/72)
Srila Prabhupada you have expressed your worry about your leaders and their propensity to sit down, plot and scheme .how to eat and sleep.
"I think it is best thing if the GBC members always travel on Sankirtan Party in their zone and go from one village to another and visit the temples to see how the students are learning and do my work. In this way, they will avoid the propensity to sit down and plot and scheme how to eat and sleep. So you can advise them all to travel extensively on Sankirtan all over their zone." (SPL to Karandhar, 5/4/72)
"The Miami situation is a great discredit for us because we have made such a bad impression on the neighbors that they have had us kicked out. This is because of nasty management. Rupanuga was the GBC, and now you are, why it cannot be made clean? Avirama has proved his poor management, so he must be replaced... One thing is though, if the management continues to be so nasty, then that place will also be ruined. Management must be done very nicely otherwise it is useless." (SPL to Satsvarupa, 6/4/75)
You have advised not to follow the example of mundane politicians: "Simply become more concerned with increasing the spiritual content of our lives, and in this way all other problems like management will be easily solved, not that they can be solved by making some legal formula and having big, big meeting and talks. The politicians have been holding such meetings and talks for some time now and the world is no better place for it, and they have only made things worse. We should not follow their example.
The world is in a very precarious condition simply for lack of God consciousness, so this should be our point of stressing, that we should revive this emphasis on God consciousness everywhere in the world and that will be our contribution." (SPL to Jagadish, 5/2/72)
"I am in due receipt of your letter addressed to Rupanuga dasa dated September 16, 1975 and have noted the contents. Why is there this politics? This is not good. If politics come, then the preaching will be stopped. That is the difficulty. As soon as politics come, everything is spoiled. In the Gaudiya Math the politics is still going on. My Guru Maharaja left in 1936, and now it is 1967, so after 40 years the litigation is still going on. Do not come to this." (SPL to Gurukripa, 9/30/75)
Srila Prabhupazda, you have given another ominous warnings about your secretaries: Srila Prabhupāda: I was living with servant and two sons. So I helped to start... [break] ...took from my friends, I collected some money and... So other important members said, "Why Abhaya Bābu is living separately? He should be the president of the Bombay." I never said, but they said. I was living separately. Then Prabhupāda requested, I mean to say, pleaded in my behalf so many things. He said three words, "It is better that he is living outside your company. He will do, when time will come, he'll do himself everything. You haven't got to recommend him." These very words. [break] ...Krsna require any president or any GBC.
He's giving chance to everyone, that's all. Otherwise thousands of presidents and thousands of GBC may come and go, His work will go on. Krsna is complete Himself. He doesn't require anyone's help. That is Krsna. [break] ...sei hetu pracāra. One who has got life, he can preach. One is dead, what he can do? He used to say." Srila Prabhupada Room Conversation, September 26, 1976, Vrindavana, India
"My only grievance is that I appointed GBC to give me relief from the management but, on the contrary, complaints and counter-complaints are coming to me. Then how my brain can be peaceful. Naturally, I want to see that all of my centers are going nicely, so it is not possible to mitigate the differences of opinion and work smoothly, conjointly. So best thing is that we wait for the Mayapur meeting and decide there combinedly what to do.
"The local management has to be done by temple president. GBC should see whether management is going on nicely, and if there are any discrepancies that will be discussed at the GBC meeting in Mayapur. That is the process. Sannyasis are meant for preaching only. That is the principle. But, contrary to the principle, if things are being embezzled then how can I save them. How one man can manage the whole world affairs? This is my concern. So far I know you are approved manager, so why complaints are there, I do not know." (SPL to Jayatirtha, 10/16/75)
"Regarding the controversy that is going on there in Stockholm, what is the reason? This must be considered at a full meeting of the GBC. You may suggest a way to mitigate this difficulty and if it is not accepted, then both of them should resign. I know that Hamsadutta is very expert in selling books but books are not only for selling but also for reading. Now has the GBC become more than Guru Maharaja? As if simply GBC is meant for looking after pounds, shilling, pence. The GBC does not look after spiritual life. That is the defect. All of our students will have to become guru but they are not qualified. This is the difficulty." (SPL to Alanath, 11/10/75)
Now I have come back, so let me stay in India. I will remain in Bombay, Vrindavana, and Mayapur. As you have desired, now let me do that, to sit down tightly and concentrate on the translating business. But, if you disturb me, then my mind will be disturbed. I want that what I have established may go on nicely, but I see that some of the devotees are reviving their old 'good' qualities. That is the difficulty. If the old habits come back, then everything is finished. If my mind becomes disturbed in this way, then how can I concentrate on book writing. It is not possible. Better not to inform me anything, and let me sit in Vrindavana." (SPL to Hrdayananda, 11/13/75)
"I am glad to hear that you are now concentrating on improving the regulative life of the temple rather than so much advertising with brochures. This is very nice; this is what I want. A good example is better than precept. The pamphlet is precept, but if we don't follow the precepts ourselves then such advertisement is not good." (SPL to Mukunda, 2/7/74)
Of course, by Krishna's grace, the higher learned section is appreciating our books. That is the only hope for pushing on. But, I am very much depressed by the recent incidences in Germany. It is now evident that some of our top men are very much ambitious and there have been so many fall downs." (SPL to Bhagavan, 1/27/75)