PADA: Why did the GBC mass deviate? That is a great question. You mean to say -- not one of them stood up and said, wait hold on!: Kirtanananda is a former Mott Street boy; Jayatirtha is a former Timothy Leary disciple; Bhagavan was allegedly not paying the trash bill at the Paris temple and made a big fine, which he was chastised for;
Hansadutta's farm was raided in Germany, where they police found books about Hitler; Tamal used to regularly have to go out hunting for his "best friend" -- blooped out Bhavananda -- at Andy Warhol's house; The sannyasas were falling down repeatedly -- and sannyasa was suspended; They were always fighting among themselves; Srila Prabhupada had to stop the GBC plan to move all the householders to Australia; And many other leaders fell down -- left, right and center, and so on.
Thus -- how are any of them now engaged in pure devotional service, getting dictation from God, and they are serving the gopis? OK what happened was -- Tamal presented the Devil's Garden of Eden / Forbidden Apple to the other seniors and leaders -- "just go along with our bogus guru plan and we will make you the second echelon leaders / big time GBC help mates / well respected / highly placed seniors or managers, and give you a salary and maybe a few wives."
And enough people, especially leaders, got sucked in, and took a bite from the forbidden apple to make the program get off the ground, because many sycophants, especially other GBC and leaders, saw this as an opportunity to better their own position.
Ooops! Once the guru train left the station, it was almost impossible to put the brakes on and stop the momentum. It took on a life of its own, and people who resisted later on were banned, beaten, sued and -- killed. OK most people later on had buyer's remorse for supporting all this in the first place, they realized it was a mistake, but by then it was too late, the false guru system was now well established.
Entrenched. Someone said -- it was the GBC's sticky fly paper trap that was almost impossible to get free of, even if you wanted to. Sulochana called them "locked in nescience."
The real simple answer is, most people compromised with the GBC gurus "to go along to get along." They did not want to jeopardize their comfort zone situation in the GBC's house and challenge the guru system. People told me that, well yah, it is all going off the rails, but if I speak out, I will lose my friends.
Even Gaura Govinda Maharaja's people told me, GGM has to cooperate with the GBC gurus "to have a building." OK! A lot of people also went along with the Kauravas, same reason, they were handing out benefits and positions, and many people wanted to get these rewards. There are senior devotees even now who do not want me to mention their names, because they are on some GBC payroll or benefits process.
In sum, many big leaders sold their souls to Satan in exchange for a place in Satan's kingdom, and then everything and everyone suffered. Most of the compromisers suffered in the end. And the suffering of many of the children, even of some of the compromisers, is now a well known horror movie.
The other leaders went along to get along, and as we know from the Bhagavad Gita story, those who go along to get along will be punished along with the Kauravas themselves. The compromisers will suffer part of the same karma / fate as the main culprits, that is what happened to the Kaurava's compromisers and go along to get along folks.
Some idiot follower of the GBC just wrote to tell me, there is only one July 9th letter that the ritviks rely on for their idea. Umm nope, there are tens of thousands of quotes -- you have to worship a pure devotee. There are ZERO quotes that we have to worship conditioned souls. Nor could he show me any.
Anyway, all that created a big illusion and a lot of people got sucked in, but many are realizing now -- this is not what Krishna wants, and they are going back to the original idea of worshiping the pure devotee. The illusion is breaking down and yep, the emperor has no clothes, and people are catching on.
Of course a lot of the rank and file just left in disgust, but their voices were never counted, only the big leaders had a voice, and they drowned everyone else out. And then many people were mislead, and still are mislead. Even the media says "Srila Prabhupada's 11 appointed successors," but the false guru regime is evaporating.
Why did so many people go along, the short answer is, they wanted something which they thought the false guru regime would give them. And they ended up with nothing because false gurus cannot give us anything, they are thieves, crooks, takers and exploiters.
But they fooled some of the people some of the time, and that was all they needed to launch this madness. Of course there are sincere people in the mix, they were fooled for some time, but now more of them are coming over to our side, because they are sincere. And the Bangalore group is part of that process.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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S AFRICA TEMPLE COLLAPSE, FIVE DEAD
PADA: OK so the building was illegal and there is no proper plan submitted.
Not sure what happened but it looks like the concrete crumbled, leaving behind the bent and twisted rebar. Faulty concrete? Bad planning? The government is investigating, but it looks like ISKCON did not make a proper building here.
The building did not have approved building plans. Which means, this is another typical ISKCON scam. Someone from there said it looks like the concrete just disintegrated and left the rebar behind, it could also be just bad materials.
Notice how the GBC operates? The Jayapataka people complain to me I am helping lawsuits that is costing them $100,000,000, but there is no money to hire proper building construction people. Worse, just after spending $20M on the Bangalore lawsuit, the GBC wants another $20M to start another Bangalore lawsuit. In other words, the money that should go for proper buildings is instead going to buy Luis Vuitton suits for lawyers.
One of the devotees involved in this project was supposedly trying to make a bridge between the Hindus, the Muslims and the Christians. I hear about that idea a lot, the so-called ISKCON inter-faith program. Our friend said, many of not most of the Hindus eat meat, most of the Muslims and Christians also eat meat. It is therefore rather ironic that the GBC has been spending $20,000,000 to sue and remove the vegetarian Hare Krishna devotees from Bangalore, while making programs to invite in the meat eating religionists. Meat eating religions ki jaya sir!
In other words, it looks like ISKCON is more favoring the meat eating religions than the Krishna religion. So we have to spend $100,000,000 on lawsuits, and try to get rid of the actual Krishna devotees in Bangalore, all so we can make compromises with the cow eater religions.
Does this not make the GBC responsible for these deaths? Bhakti Chaitanya swami is one of the people encouraging all these $100M lawsuits, while neglecting the safety and welfare of his own people with his illegal building. Someone asked me if this makes the GBC responsible for these deaths, and I said, yes of course it does. They skim off money for gurukulas, books, temple construction etc. to feed their lawyers.
Anyway, this is a sad situation no doubt for the loved ones and God speed to these departed folks. I hope these GBC criminals are charged with criminal negligent deaths and we can get some sort of legal ruling to clamp down on these bogus messiahs. ys pd
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ANUTTAMA DEVI DEPARTS
Dhaneshvara dasa
Dear Devotees,
On Friday evening Mother Anuttama (ACBSP) left this world in the company of her husband Billy, who was chanting the holy names by her side.
You may know that she was very inspired to follow Srila Prabhupada's instructions for simple living, and with her husband Billy they created a small homestead in S. Washington state, and invited devotees to join them in making that vision a reality.
At present only Billy is there and given his age and the circumstances of losing his partner of 37 years, he is finding it difficult to take care of the animals, etc. They asked me last week to help find some help, and I've been looking since then. When I spoke with Billy today he said that he would prefer a young couple, with length of stay to be determined. IOW, it could be a (semi-)permanent arrangement for a couple interested in living the simple life. I'm sure he would also gladly accept the help of a single young man.
Please, everyone who reads this, share this with others. This can very well be a win-win situation. Anyone who is interested to know more please PM me on messenger.
PADA: She is a very good soul and wanted to make a rural community, but it never really got off the ground. She told me she had some kind of cancer, and thus she was going to cure it with natural remedies. I get it, and understand why people are not always signing up for the mundane doctor system.
Anyway she had her little farm and now it will be hard to maintain without her help, so lets hope someone or some couple can go there to care for the place in her absence. I liked her a lot and she was a very good Prabhupada person and I wish her soul to move on closer to Krishna. She is a lovely soul and will be missed. God speed spirit soul! ys pd
RD: South Africa ISKCON? Horrible place to be a Prabhupada devotee. Their hired goondas chase you off the property. No surprise all the money goes for lawyers ... and not proper building. They don't care if their own people die, as long as the lawyers have new Rolex. These leaders are disgusting.
ReplyDeleteBhakti Chaitanya swami ... wants to interfaith with the meat eating ritvik Christians. A Hare Krishna ritvik will be beaten with sticks if he enters their property. And then sued for $20,000,000.
And now that people had to die from their neglect, maybe government will take them down. Let us hope so! They skimmed the building money for lawyers? That is what they do to all projects.
M Dasi: GBC lies ... and people die. We stand with your grief! ??? You made an ILLEGAL building! Without proper plans! And now people are dead. Now shedding crocodile tears, hope the families don't charge us for wrongful deaths of the relatives.
ReplyDeleteThe only good is ??? ... there was not 400 people in the building when it tumbled down. That would have been an epic scandal. But this one is bad enough.
When are people going to finally realize! These GBC people are LIARS, CHEATS, FRAUDS and SCAMMERS! And they are DANGEROUS to be around.
I would also like to know? Why is there $100,000,000 for lawsuits ... but not enough money to make a small building properly? Where is all the money going? And now they want to collect another $20,000,000 to sue Bangalore. AGAIN! No one should give them a penny! I really hope they get sued and charged now, enough is enough!
MMD: Dare I say it? Walls are literally crumbling on GBC empire. The concrete turned into dust ... what it looks like. Whole empire is turning into dust. The Vedas speak of inauspicious signs ... which we see more in their empire ... all the time. House of sand ... will not stand.
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