Russia Update / PADA vs V Devi Dasi 11 29 23

Putin is urging women to have as many as 8 children after so many Russians died in his war with Ukraine.

PADA: Well sure, except a Russian woman on my Tik Tok says she can barely afford to maintain her one single child -- now that the cost of diapers, baby formula, food, and everything else, has sky rocketed in Russia. But it does mean, they are starting to realize -- hey! We are losing a lot of men over here, and we won't be able to replace them readily. 

Russia already had 4,000,000 more women than men before the war. And they made a big drive to create more babies some years ago, and people just have not been signing up. Yup, life is too tough there already, and maintaining babies is a huge expense and it takes a lot of work and effort. 

Oh yeah they promised that if you have a baby -- you would get some extra benefits, but that did not happen. Russia is slowly destroying its male population, and it will take decades or more to recover. Srila Prabhupada pretty much says this as well -- Kali Yuga leaders will destroy everything -- so they can rule over the ashes. Very sad for all the families who now no longer have a husband, a son, a worker -- provider and etc. And then again there are now tens of thousands of severely wounded -- who will require a lot of care.

They say that sometimes Russia loses a thousand men just to take over a football field sized area, that is now a useless, lifeless, bombed out moonscape full of mines. You won! You won what? Is it worth it? ys pd

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PADA: Yep, that is what happened. As soon as I said we cannot worship Jayatirtha as an acharya, because he is having an illicit affair -- and he is offering LSD to the shalagram etc., and therefore we also cannot allow our children to worship such deviants -- because it is a form of psychological child abuse, I was branded as against ISKCON, a blasphemer and etc. So then I had Tamal and Dallas sued for $3,000,000 for child mistreatment in 1986, then later had to have Tamal and Dallas sued for $400,000,000 in 1997, and I then had to help the Bangalore folks counter the $20,000,000 lawsuit the GBC created, and had to help the BBTI lawsuit to get original books -- and so on and so forth, all of this because they did not want to listen to "a blasphemer." 

And that is why the Jayapataka people then complained I had cost ISKCON $100,000,000 in legal fees -- because I am against ISKCON. Ummm nope, ok they need to realize that advising people to follow practical moral codes is an attempt to help them, and we need original un-edited books, and we need to make sure our children are safe from predators, and we should not allow the GBC to spend $20,000,000 trying to remove more devotees, when the temples are already ghost towns. 

They should be spending $20,000,000 on helping keep these devotees, not removing more of them. Anyway, yes, many devotees confuse constructive criticism with attacking ISKCON, and it has made the society appear as fanatical to outside viewers. So the FEDS were tapping their phones, and they thus saved me when the leaders sent their goons to take me out. Even the FEDS told me, your opponents are criminal religious fanatics and not actually religious people. Anyway, the good news is that we are now networking with hundreds of Prabhupadanuga devotees worldwide trying to establish the proper system that Srila Prabhupada wanted and intended. 

Meanwhile a distressed devotee just now wrote to tell me that they found out their guru was an active homo, and when they went to Mayapur to complain, the Mayapur leaders told the devotee "we know he is an active homo, but don't worry, he will get better." So now this devotee is upset with ISKCON. ISKCON is spawning its own critics left, right and center. I am not sure what other result they are expecting? ys pd

V Devi Dasi: And how you going to know these so call Prabhupadanugas are not hypocrites, cheaters and liars? Or not even following the 4 regulative principles? So therefore you have room to criticize them too. Hare Krsna

PADA: V Devi Dasi A person who does not follow the principles is certainly fallen, however, we do not find any of the fallen Prabhupadanugas claiming to be Krishna's guru successors. When I was a kid -- the pastor told us -- the Devil may come disguised as the best Christian. So there is always going to be the danger of people posing as something they are not. 

However, we will not find anyone claiming to be God's successor in the Prabhupadanuga process, because such persons are no longer Prabhupadanugas by any consideration. 

At the same time, yes, predators and deviants should be exposed, wherever they are, and whatever camp they are in. The Devil may be disguised as the best Christian, that is true, so we need to be watchful whatever camp we are in. You are correct. There are predators posing as "Jesus' best followers," and they need to be exposed, and arrested, and so should ours be exposed and arrested. 

Srila Prabhupada says when we say a debauchee is Krishna's successor, it is the same as saying Krishna is a debauchee, so that process needs to be exposed and stopped, or else nothing else will help such a society. It is doomed. ys pd

V Devi Dasi: PADA your agenda is to only expose those who claim to be God’s successors because you consider that wrong / sinful etc. and of course that is because that is not what Srila Prabhupada taught us. I understand but isn’t it true the reason they do such things is because they are obviously not following the basic 4 principles and they don’t understand our guru’s teachings?

Since you mentioned Jesus isn’t it he who said cast the first stone if you have not sinned? Therefore don’t you agree that those prabhupadanugas need to perfect themselves before judging others or trying to expose others?

“ I was a kid -- the pastor told us -- the Devil may come disguised as the best Christian. So there is always going to be the danger of people posing as something they are not.” This also applies to the Prahupadanugas isn’t it?

So my question is still not answered what are you doing to expose such people who are fallen in one way or another? Fallen means fallen. Sinners mean sinners. How can one who is not perfect criticize the other?

I am not a fan of those who claim themselves as Gods etc. I am just trying to understand why so many people can’t see their own faults? One by one Prabhupada’s disciples dissappeared and left every responsibility to do their own thing. I can assure you not all of them are following the basic principles.

Point is we are wasting so much time trying to create hate and anger to proof a point that is not ours to judge so we or our egos can feel righteous.

Prabhupada and Krishna are there to punish those who sinned. Your and my duty is to be sincere and honest disciples of our beloved Guru. And not be hypocrites, cheaters and liars like others.

Hare Krishna

PADA: V Devi Dasi Ok so when I had ISKCON sued for $3,000,000 in 1986 for child mistreatment, and again helped get them sued for $400,000,000 in 1997 for even more widespread and worse child mistreatment, I should have sat back and allowed the child mistreatment to continue without protest, because I am not yet a maha-bhagavata myself.

Well fine, but even the courts agreed, that is how the child mistreatment has been enabled and facilitated in the first place, by people sitting around acquiescing and enabling. And sure, when I said there is mass child mistreatment I was called every name in the book by the leaders and their followers. 

And the result is -- 99.999 percent of the ex-kulis who live around here now boycott ISKCON, and some of them eat meat and etc. If I am protecting children, any children, then it is the duty of all human beings to help me and protect me and help me suppress this problem. 

But instead, as soon as I brought up this issue in 1979, I got booted out. So yeah, I should not have cast stones at them, I should be one of the acquiescing enablers and / or collaborators? Well sorry, that is not what I think is the moral and right choice. 

I am a sinner, no doubt, but there are some sins that I have to try to contain, or I am implicated in worse sins by being an acquiescing enabler, or worse -- a collaborator. The whole idea is to reduce sins, not get entangled in worse sins. But helping children from abuse is not "my agenda," it is the agenda of all moral human beings on the planet. 

Of course if helping victimized children is "my agenda," then it is the same identical agenda as Lord Narasimghadev. Better not oppose this agenda then, eh what? I find it odd that people keep telling me, the agenda of Lord Narasimghadev is "my agenda." Sorry I don't own His trademark. Hee hee.    

ys pd 

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Kishori Jani's Brother Departs 11 28 23

 

With a broken heart, I share the devastating news that my older brother Balarama Das passed away peacefully in his sleep at the ISKCON Brooklyn, Radha Govinda Temple in NYC. He had just reached there a few days ago to help our younger brother Rupa Raghunath sort out some legal paperwork.

He was born on Balaram purnima in Vrindavan Dham and passed away on Sri Krishna Rasa Purnima in the home of Sri Sri Radha Govinda Dev! He spent almost 10 years in Vrindavan Gurukula and knew the entire Bhagavad Gita and HarinaamaAmrita Vyakaran by the age of 14. 

He did his Bachelors in Philosophy from UC Berkeley. He was one of the most intelligent people I knew. And yet there was a lot of suffering in his life, despite which, he was the MOST jolly and happy person you could meet. He would laugh such a deep and uproarious laugh that everyone would be forced to join in. He loved talking to everyone and helping in anyway, which is why he wanted to become a nurse next.

He was so great with all his nieces and nephews! Uncle Balarama was most certainly the favourite uncle of them all! He loved kids because he was a big kid till the end!

He was extremely talented at everything he did! He was an excellent harmonium, mrdanga and dilruba player and his kirtans were some of the best I have ever had the privilege of experiencing! He was the poster child for ISKCON Vrindavan Gurukula in the early 90s.

But the trauma of being in an abusive gurukula environment from age 4 had done it's damage. He was just remembering how he lived with mother Candrika for a year at the Vrn gaushala (instead of Gurukula) in the 80s because he couldn't settle into the gurukula at 4 years old. The freezing cold showers, beatings, verbal physical and sexual abuse and neglect had him wetting the bed for many of his early years. He suffered from anxiety and depression, like most abused gurukulis. And eventually it led to addictions and other dysfunctions.

PADA: Yes, some ex-gurukula victims told me they were in "Auschwitz for children," a sort of concentration camp environment, where prisoners are beaten, given physical and maybe sexual abuse, are fed rotten food, are given cold showers, and the whole idea is to "break them down mentally -- to the point they give up the will to live" and so on and so forth. It is called sometimes, breaking a person's spirit or will to live. "Breaking a person's spirit" can have fatal consequences, if they will lose the will to live, and that is often the intent.

When a person loses "the will to thrive" i.e. "the will to live," then, they can die from apparent physical causes, but the real problem is -- they were made to lose their will to thrive. Their body followed their mental state. Beating the prisoners to break their spirit is a process we should all know about and recognize already. 

Of course, even a number of adult victims of the GBC's guru scam also lost their "will to thrive," and they died prematurely of things like cancer and etc. And a number of the ex-youth and exiled adults became dysfunctional, turned to drugs and / or alcohol and so on. 

One of my good friends here in Berkeley died of alcohol poison, ok he drank himself to death. And this begs the question, who are the leaders who generated this environment, which seems to cause people to suffer and even die -- left, right and center -- and who are the enablers and collaborators. And in sum -- who is responsible for these horrendous cases of suffering and even death, of the Lord's devotees? 

And that almost answers the next question -- why most people do not want to discuss this issue, because they were part of the regime, or they fear opposing the regime. One victim recently told me they were going to expose a GBC guru, but on later told me, I just cannot go forward, exposing this guru will ruin my life, and it will place my children in danger.   

I share this because every parent in ISKCON should know how important these "Vaikuntha children" are and how damaging it is to neglect them in the name of training / tapasya or other services. Knowing the BG by heart or becoming a Sanskrit scholar isn't enough for a child. Balarama Das (along with 4 of my brothers who went to Gurukula) was neglected and we failed him as an institution and a spiritual society. 

He was collateral damage, the invisible price paid by families who laid the foundations for ISKCON. Those days, no one knew what they were doing and these children bore the brunt of a bad experiment. The suffering and struggle is still very much real and present even today for our families. 

PADA: Not sure how so many people did not know? We said in 1978 that making children worship conditioned souls is psychological child abuse right out of the gate. By 1979 we knew some of the gurus were falling into illicit sex and drugs, and that means the children were being now forced to worship known debauchees. 

This was known to most everyone in the society, we were forcing the children to worship degraded fools like Jayatirtha as their messiahs. And reports of homosexual activities, other forms of guru fall downs, and children "weirdly massaging their guru" and other similar things was being discussed in 1980. Again, many people knew that, and most likely most or all of the leaders knew. 

But everyone has moved on to more important projects. 

PADA: Umm well yeah, it is called denial. They don't want to address the history of how all this "Auschwitz for kids" evolved, and who have been the main leaders / administrators of ISKCON's "gurukula" system / Auschwitz camps -- at that time, or even now. OK like: Gopal Krishna swami, Lokanath swami, Bhakti Caru swami, Bhagavan das, Ramesvara swami, Harikesha swami, Jayapataka swami, Kirtanananda swami, Bhavananda swami, Hari Sauri, Bhakti Vikas swami, Bhakti Tirtha swami, and so forth. 

People have "moved on" because they have not wanted to confront this bogus guru / bogus gurukula / process all along from 1978, and how all of this odious out cropping evolved and who made it evolve. And who has been the hand maidens of all this mess, such as the second tier managers, many compromised parents etc.   

It would be healing to see the ISKCON leadership actively seek out these damaged children and try to engage them. It'll be hard work but it'll please Sri Krishna and Srila Prabhupada to see that we are looking after each other. Most of these "forgotten Vaikuntha children" can't set foot into a temple without being triggered ... healing is very much needed.

PADA: Probably 99 percent, or maybe 99.999 percent of the ex-kulis around here avoid ISKCON and boycott ISKCON, because the same leaders who created the abuse infrastructure, ok like Jayapataka swami for example, are still in charge. And worse, some of the exploiters like Kirtanananda are being buried in samadhi.

Hopefully we all will learn our lessons.

The fact that my siblings are still completely surrendered to Sri Krishna and Srila Prabhupada is a miracle and is testament to the fact that Srila Prabhupada and Sri Krishna never forget. And of course the power of the Bhakti that my mother and father possessed and passed on, is what's carrying us.

Ultimately Krishna NEVER fails us! Luckily, for the past few years, Balarama was back living in Vrindavan where he belonged, trying his best to heal. He was helping my mother, cooking and cleaning for her, reading SB and CC with her and my siblings online everyday ... After many years of being lost, he had definitely found his way back to Krishna and loved to chant his rounds again and do parikrama around Vrindavan regularly.

PADA: Yeah but, seeing that the leaders of the abuse infrastructure are still in charge means, he could not be truly free of his oppressors. If you still have to see the leaders of your "Auschwitz for kids prison camp program" still being worshiped as good as God -- after you were one of the concentration camp victims of their program, then that is very discouraging and a source of severe depression, as a number of victims have told me personally. 

The leaders of the Auschwitz for kids program are still parading around in orange robes, riding in big fancy cars, living in big opulent buildings, sitting in big giant Vyasa seats, acting like nothing is wrong. And while these leaders have the best facility in the universe, many of these ex-kids have been struggling hard just to get a job at minimum wages. 

Add to that -- the trauma and dysfunction their mistreatment created, making it even more difficult to manage on the material plane. In short, their oppressors made out like wealthy bandits, and a number of these kids ended up -- out on the street with nothing, or less than nothing, because they have been severely traumatized, making it even harder to perform basic survival skills. 

When I was in LA some of these kids were living in cars, some of them were working at Mc Donalds hamburgers, and so on. In short, they were not being taken care of -- by anyone. OK except a few people like me, I helped some of them sign up for the lawsuit so they got a little stipend.

He was only 43 but his health had been a bit up and down with very high blood pressure etc. We suspect he had a heart attack in his sleep and left us peacefully. We spent kartik in Vrindavan together and he kept saying I'm not ready to go to America because I'm not feeling so well. 

He had a bit of a flu and felt a bit dizzy at times. Yet he went to help his little brother out ... a true vaisnava till his last breath. His last voice message to me was a happy one, where he said "everything is exactly how it was meant to be, that he was exactly where Krishna wanted Him to be and that he loved me very much."

PADA: Well things are not going the way Krishna wanted them to be. He never intended that these children would be treated like Auschwitz prisoners, and then have to see their oppressors strutting around thinking they are another Jesus incarnated. If we watch movies about prisons and concentration camps, one feature is, you have to respect the odious leaders of the camp as some wonderful authority. And you have to submit to their authority without question, never mind these leaders are sinister and evil tyrants, who are generating your abusive conditions.

 

He was a very dear friend to everyone who knew him! And most dear to Sri Sri Krishna Balarama, who looked after Him in this lifetime. I am sure Balarama Das is in Their loving and safe shelter! We are here with a broken heart!

If you knew him please sing a kirtan in his honor and send us any pics that you have of him. I'm on my way to NYC from the UK and Nandu Bhaiya is coming from India. We will look after Balarama's cremation and bring his ashes home. If you are in NYC, come sing and chant with us in the temple, in the evenings.

Hari Om Tat Sat

Jai Jai Sri Radhe Shyam, Jai Krishna Balaram, Jai Vrindavan Dham!
Jai Balarama Das!

PADA: OK New York City, that is where Romapada, Jayadvaita, Kuladri and various usual suspects are hanging out. Where were all of them when all of this abuse was going on? I forgot, Jayadvaita was trying to get "voted in" to the regime, so he could ask "why in the hell are people chanting Jaya Prabhupada"? Yep, let me be a card carrying member of -- the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara! Then we can orchestrate a program of banning, beating, molesting, suing and -- killing -- vaishnavas. 

And Kuladri -- he was Kirtanananda's main henchman, and he was turning away complaints about the abuse according to ex-NV people. Romapada was kicked out by the GBC, for trying to steal the building. And in sum, these people were "enforcers" in the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles as messiahs project. Why are we sending people to associate with this bunch?

And then Jayadvaita said he has taken too much karma, and so he designates Kadamba Kanana to take karma, and he does take karma, and he gets cancer, and he dies. Seriously, with friends like this, who needs enemies. And meanwhile people are offering bhogha to conditioned souls, which means it is contaminating to eat it, and it can thus make people get sick, and die. How can any of these people take the sins of others? How can we offer bhogha to the molester messiah's project's leaders? 

And now some devotee told me that Subhag swami had told that devotee, he too is another gay person in their guru group. Someone else says this Prem swami guy is also a gay guru. And yet another person says the whole of Mayapura is infused with black magic and lots of "man to man hugging," men sitting themselves -- or boys -- on their laps, putting their heads on each other's laps and so forth. Anyone in this environment is going to be malefic afflicted. The people who are running Auschwitz for kids projects -- are not the people the victims should associate with subsequently.

At the same time, we wish this departed soul all the best. God speed spirit soul! You are no longer among these wolves in sheep's dress, Krishna pulled you out of their association. Yep. I get it, it is sad for the people who loved this soul -- and yet from our point of view, it is a blessing for him to be free of these molester messiah's club leaders and their association. 

Wherever you are now, it is better than being with this lot. And yes, I believe Krishna will assist this soul in making forward progress, because Krishna knows how he was victimized by their Auschwitz for kids program, and He will take all that all into account. Yeah, ultimately we are all collateral damage of the molester messiah's project. It is high time for everyone to oppose them and get them out of management positions in ISKCON. 

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My dear Lord.

Please take care of this departed

spirit soul.

ys pd

VERY IMPORTANT THIS TO BE UNDERSTOOD

"These rascals create so many difficult situations. The public is very nice but the politicians keep them in ignorance. I have studied the whole world. Human nature is the same everywhere. The mass of people are very good but these rogues create by their personal aggrandizement so many difficulties."

● Letter to: Atreya Rsi, Bombay, 20 April, 1977

Katyayani Vrata 11 27 23

Katyayani Vrata 

A vow to observe austerities to please Katyayani Devi, or Yogamaya Devi, the spiritual energy of Lord Krsna.

Krishna Steals the Garments of the Unmarried Gopis

This chapter describes how the marriageable daughters of the cowherd men worshiped Katyayani to get Lord Sri Krishna as their husband, and how Krishna stole the garments of the young girls and gave the girls benedictions.

During the month of Margasirsha, every day early in the morning the young daughters of the cowherds would take one another’s hands and, singing of Krishna’s transcendental qualities, go to the Yamuna to bathe. Desiring to obtain Krishna as their husband, they would then worship the goddess Katyayani with incense, flowers and other items.

One day, the young gopis left their garments on the shore as usual and began playing in the water while chanting of Lord Krishna’s activities. Suddenly Krishna Himself came there, took away all the garments and climbed a nearby kadamba tree. Wanting to tease the gopis, Krishna said, “I understand how fatigued you gopis are from your austerities, so please come onto the shore and take back your clothes.”

The gopis then pretended to become angry and said the cold water of the Yamuna was giving them great pain. If Krishna did not give them back their garments, they said, they would inform King Kamsa of all that had happened. But if He did give the clothes back, they would willingly carry out His orders in the mood of humble servants.

Sri Krishna replied that He had no fear of King Kamsa, and that if the girls really intended to follow His command and be His maidservants they should each immediately come onto the shore and take their respective garments. The girls, trembling from the cold, climbed out of the water with their two hands covering their private parts. Krishna, who felt great affection for them, again spoke: “Because while executing a vow you bathed in the water naked, you have committed an offense against the demigods, and to counteract it you should offer obeisances with joined palms. Then your vow of austerity will achieve its full result.”

The gopis followed this instruction and, folding their hands in respect, offered obeisances to Sri Krishna. Satisfied, He gave them back their clothing. But the young girls had become so attracted to Him that they could not leave. Understanding their minds, Krishna said that He knew they had worshiped Katyayani to get Him as their husband. Because they had offered their hearts to Him, their desires would never again become tainted by the mood of materialistic enjoyment, just as fried barleycorns can no longer grow into shoots. Next autumn, He told them, their most cherished desire would be fulfilled.

Then the gopis, fully satisfied, returned to Vraja, and Sri Krishna and His cowherd friends went off to a distant place to graze the cows.

Sometime later, when the boys felt disturbed by the great heat of summer, they took shelter at the base of a tree that stood just like an umbrella. The Lord then said that the life of a tree is most excellent, for even while feeling pain a tree continues to protect others from heat, rain, snow and so on. With its leaves, flowers, fruits, shade, roots, bark, wood, fragrance, sap, ashes, pulp and sprouts, a tree fulfills the desires of everyone. This kind of life is ideal. Indeed, said Krishna, the perfection of life is to act with one’s vital energy, wealth, intelligence and words for the benefit of all.

After the Lord had glorified the trees in this way, the entire company went to the Yamuna, where the cowherd boys let the cows drink the sweet water and also drank some themselves.

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CHAPTER 31

Songs by the Gopīs


One gopī said, “My dear Kṛṣṇa, ever since You took Your birth in this land of Vrajabhūmi, everything appears to be glorious. The land of Vṛndāvana has become glorious, and it is as if the goddess of fortune is personally always existing here. But it is only we who are very unhappy, because we are searching for You but cannot see You with our greatest effort. Our life is completely dependent upon You; therefore we request that You again come to us.”


Another gopī said, “My dear Kṛṣṇa, You are the life and soul even of the lotus flower that grows on the water of lakes made transparent by the clear rains of autumn. Although the lotus flowers are so beautiful, without Your glance they fade away. Similarly, without You, we are also dying. Actually, we are not Your wives but are Your slaves. You never spent any money for us, yet we are simply attracted by Your glance. Now, if we die without receiving Your glance, You’ll be responsible for our deaths. Certainly the killing of women is a great sin, and if You do not come to see us and we die, You will suffer the reactions of sin. So please come see us. Do not think that one can be killed only by certain weapons. We are being killed by Your absence. You should consider how You are responsible for killing women. We are always grateful to You because You have protected us many times: from the poisonous water of the Yamunā, from the serpent Kāliya, from Bakāsura, from the anger of Indra and his torrents of rain, from the forest fire and so many other incidents. You are the greatest and most powerful of all. It is wonderful for You to protect us from so many dangers, but we are surprised that You are neglecting us at this moment.


“Dear Kṛṣṇa, dear friend, we know very well that You are not actually the son of Mother Yaśodā or the cowherd man Nanda Mahārāja. You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead and the Supersoul of all living entities. You have, out of Your own causeless mercy, appeared in this world, requested by Lord Brahmā for the protection of the world. It is by Your kindness only that You have appeared in the dynasty of Yadu. O best in the dynasty of Yadu, if anyone afraid of this materialistic way of life takes shelter at Your lotus feet, You never deny him protection. Your movements are sweet, and You are independent, touching the goddess of fortune with one hand and in the other bearing a lotus flower. That is Your extraordinary feature. Please, therefore, come before us and bless us with the lotus flower in Your hand.


“Dear Kṛṣṇa, You are the killer of all the fears of the inhabitants of Vṛndāvana. You are the supremely powerful hero, and we know that You can kill the unnecessary pride of Your devotees, as well as the pride of women like us, simply by Your beautiful smile. We are simply Your maidservants and slaves; please, therefore, accept us by showing us Your beautiful lotuslike face.


“Dear Kṛṣṇa, actually we have become very lusty, having been touched by Your lotus feet. Your lotus feet certainly kill all kinds of sinful activities of devotees who have taken shelter there. You are so kind that even the ordinary animals take shelter under Your lotus feet. Your lotus feet are also the residence of the goddess of fortune, yet You danced on the heads of the Kāliya serpent with them. Now we are requesting You to kindly place Your lotus feet on our breasts and pacify our lusty desires to touch You.


“O Lord, Your attractive eyes, like the lotus, are so nice and pleasing. Your sweet words are so fascinating that they please even the greatest scholars, who also become attracted to You. We are also attracted by Your speaking and by the beauty of Your face and eyes. Please, therefore, satisfy us by Your nectarean kisses. Dear Lord, words spoken by You or words describing Your activities are full of nectar, and simply by speaking or hearing Your words one can be saved from the blazing fire of material existence. Great demigods like Lord Brahmā and Lord Śiva are always engaged in chanting the glories of Your words. They do so to eradicate the sinful activities of all living entities in the material world. If one simply tries to hear Your transcendental words, he can very quickly be elevated to the platform of pious activities. For the Vaiṣṇavas, Your words give transcendental pleasure, and saintly persons who are engaged in distributing Your transcendental message all over the world are first-class charitable persons.” (This was confirmed by Rūpa Gosvāmī when he addressed Lord Caitanya as the most munificent incarnation because He distributed the words of Kṛṣṇa and love of Kṛṣṇa free of charge all over the world.)


“Dear Kṛṣṇa,” the gopīs continued, “You are very cunning. You can imagine how much we are distressed simply by remembering Your cunning smile, Your pleasing glance, Your walking with us in the forest of Vṛndāvana and Your auspicious meditations. Your talks with us in lonely places were heartwarming. Now we are all aggrieved to remember Your behavior. Please save us. Dear Kṛṣṇa, certainly You know how much we are saddened when You go out of Vṛndāvana village to tend the cows in the forest. How we are afflicted simply to think that Your soft lotus feet are being pricked by the dry grass and the tiny stones in the forest! We are so attached to You that we always think simply of Your lotus feet.


“O Kṛṣṇa, when You return from the pasturing ground with the animals, we see Your face covered by Your curly hair and dusted by the hoof dust of the cows. We see Your mildly smiling face, and our desire to enjoy You increases. O dear Kṛṣṇa, You are the supreme lover, and You always give shelter to surrendered souls. You fulfill everyone’s desire; Your lotus feet are worshiped even by Lord Brahmā, the creator of the universe. On whoever worships Your lotus feet, You without a doubt always bestow Your benedictions. So kindly be pleased with us and keep Your lotus feet on our breasts and thus relieve our present distresses. Dear Kṛṣṇa, we are seeking Your kisses, which You offer even to Your flute. The vibration of Your flute enchants the whole world and our hearts also. Kindly, therefore, return and kiss us with Your mouth of nectar.”


Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the thirty-first chapter of Kṛṣṇa, “Songs by the Gopīs.”

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Katyayani Vrata by Vraja-kumaris

"Spreading their radiant effulgences in all directions, the gopīs appeared like a garland of lightning bolts moving on the earth. Everyday before sunrise these lovely young ladies went to the Yamunā while singing loudly about the qualities of Hari who is forever praised by heavenly demigods like Brahmā. Full of rhythm and precise intonations, their voices blended harmoniously with the soft sweet notes of their vīṇās.

A sweet smell emanated from their mouths as the gopīs engaged in kīrtana. Captivated by that fragrance, swarms of bees flew excitedly towards their lotus faces hoping to drink the nectar. When the gopīs blinked their eyes in fear of the buzzing bees, the beauty of their faces greatly increased. 

The chiming sounds of their bangles conquered the chirping of love-maddened sparrows. Just as the hot sunshine does not wilt the lotus flowers, the faces of the gopīs remained fresh and attractive, even though they constantly burned with the deśire to meet Kṛṣṇa.

The maidservants of the gopīs followed behind them carrying the finest ingredients for devī-pūjā which they had collected according to strict rules. Thus the Vraja kumārīs, brimming with affection, ignored the restrictions imposed by their elders and proceeded to the bank of the Yamunā.

Although Yamunā-devī is the daughter of the sun, who removes all darkness and afflictions, she herself is filled with streams of darkness. With the eyes of her swirling waves, Yamunā-devī could directly perceive the faith of the young women who deśired Nandasuta as their husband. Seeing the agitation caused by their blossoming prema, Yamunā-devī wanted to embrace the gopīs with the playful hands of her waves. 

Yamunā respectfully said, "O sakhīs! Come, come!" Then she made a "jhat! jhat!" sound with her waves in response to the delicate "jhat! jhat!" sound of the gopīs' anklebells as they quickly ran down the forest path.

Understanding the deśire of the young girls, Yamunādevī offered her respects and tenderly looked at the gopīs from the corners of her lotus flower eyes. The rays of the rising sun instigated pleasure pastimes among the pairs of reunited cakravāka birds who had been separated the night before. Water birds chirped gaily while flying overhead.

Upon arriving at the Yamunā, the impatient Vraja kumārīs immediately threw off their woolen shawls. Covered by thin white cotton bathing outfits, the blissful bodies of the gopīs looked more beautiful than a stream of falling snow. The gopīs shivered and softly sighed due to the chilly morning air. The quivering of their leaf bud-like lips revealed the splendor of their pearly white teeth.

The gopīs smiled gently and giggled upon noticing their friends feeling the same way. Reacting to the biting cold, the gopīs made a comic scene by slapping their arms and crossing their legs in various contorted postures.

Commencing their vrata, the Vraja kumārīs offered obeisances to Kālindī before bathing. Climbing down the bank, they slowly entered the water. Ignoring the cold, they followed all the prescribed rules and completed their baths. Then they joyfully ran back up the banks of the Yamunā. After coming out of the Yamunā the gopīs felt elated over courageously tolerating the painful cold water.

The water dripping from the garments on the limbs of the young, beautiful, doe-eye gopīs with pretty smiles fell onto the earth. It seemed that their bodies wept golden tears after being tortured by the cold black waters of the Yamunā.
The water birds that had spent their youth among the blooming lotus flowers in the Yamunā saw these drops as the wonderful essence of nectarean beauty. The shimmering light emanating from their golden bodies made the gopīs look like blissful embodiments of the goddess of fortune.

The water previously caught in their hair now poured out rapidly. It appeared as if the gopīs cried out of fear. As they gracefully dried themselves with small towels, the gopīs looked very beautiful. After removing the water from their bodies the gopīs compassionately gave up their enmity towards the cold water.

While drying and arranging their hair, it seemed that the gopīs were showing affection to their weeping hair. The deśirable Vraja kumārīs had achieved a unique position due to their sweet beauty and refulgent golden complexions. After bathing and drying their creeper-like bodies, the gopīs looked even more beautiful as they filled their lotus mouths with the sweet name of Kṛṣṇa.

Even Lakṣmī-devī could not surpass their fortune. While dressing in fresh clothes, they thoroughly immersed their minds in remembrance of Kṛṣṇa. The borders of their dresses were ornamented with attractive lacing of gold and silver threads. After tying up their hair, the gopīs, who are expert in various arts, proceeded to a special place on the bank of the Yamunā.

They occasionally sighed from the cold while carrying the pūjā paraphernalia that they had painstakingly gathered. The sweet fragrance of their breath attracted swarms of bees. But the gopīs felt nervous and twitched their eyebrows because they could not tolerate the cold wind generated by the wings of those bees.

Feeling compassionate, Sūrya-deva gradually dispelled their chill by caressing them with his gentle warm rays. Thus, Sūrya-deva showed more affection to the gopīs than to his own daughter Yamunā-devī.

The gopīs set the excellent pūjā items on the sandy white banks of the Yamunā, which glistened like camphor powder. They chose a clean, quiet place for pūjā. It was a secluded location undisturbed by the wind, and free from the contamination of Yamunā foam and the footprints of birds and Animals.

Deśiring to make a mūrti of goddess Kātyāyanī out of sand, the highly qualified gopīs spoke in sweet voices resembling the soft cooing of cuckoos.

One gopī said, "O my friends! We have never observed the Kātyāyanī vrata. Before initiating this auspicious act, we should remove the evil elements from the atmosphere. Are we going to conduct the worship individually or all together? Let us decide in such a way that we do not end up with a disaster. With faith and intelligence we should take decision." 

Another sakhī said, "We should do the pūjā all together in a group. To perform pūjā separately is not good. Worshiping together will be more beneficial." The experts in pūjā chanted sweet verses praising Kṛṣṇa's attributes while offering handfuls of fragrant flowers to a murti of Kātyāyanī molded from sand. Seeing the elegant mūrti, the gopīs felt that Bhagavatī Kātyāyanī herself had appeared in that mūrti. 

The gopīs thought, "How fortunate we are to perceive goddess Bhagavatī, even though we have not yet installed the deity." Feeling that they had satisfied Devī Kātyāyanī, the gopīs felt elated. This strengthened their determination to execute the vow. To properly please Kātyāyanī, the gopīs did manasi-pūjā of the mūrti before commencing the worship. While concealing the confidential deśires within their hearts and controlling their minds, the gopīs silently fetched water from the Yamunā. The gopīs kept Kṛṣṇa locked inside their hearts like a precious treasure. 

After washing their hands and doing ācamana they sat down on kusa āsanas. Fixing their minds in the mode of goodness, the gopīs silently worshiped Katyayani. To invoke Kātyāyanī's presence in the mūrti, the expert pūjāris respectfully uttered the mantra:

ihā gacchā gaccha devī,
sannidhānam ihācarah,
kṛṣṇasya sannidhānam naha,
prāpayasva namo namaḥ.

"Come Devī, please enter this mūrti. Please help us come close to Kṛṣṇa. We pay obeisances to you again and again." After invoking Kātyāyanī-devī in this way, the young gopīs carefully placed an āsana before her.

With great bliss they humbly requested the glorious Kātyāyanī, "Welcome Devī! We offer our heartfelt respects to you. Please accept this splendid āsana. O Devī! May your visit be auspicious. We secretly request you to be merciful to us and bring Kṛṣṇa before us."

While bathing Kātyāyanī's feet in water mixed with the appropriate ingredients the gopīs said, "O completely pure Durga! Please accept this worship of your feet. May our breasts be cooled by this foot water, which reminds us of Kṛṣṇa's perspiration. Please help us meet our beloved Kṛṣṇa."

Following the foot wash, the Vraja kumārīs offered priceless arghya (auspicious hand wash) made of selected items gathered according to sastric rules. "O Devī! You are worshipable by all the demigods. We offer this arghya in hopes that you will soon award us the association of Kṛṣṇa who is our mahā arghya."

After arghya the gopīs presented ācamana (mouthwash). "O Devī! We offer this pleasant ācamana to you in hopes that we will be able to taste Kṛṣṇa." Then they offered madhuparka (a pleasant drink composed of honey, ghee, and yogurt) saying, "O Devī! We offer you this sweet madhuparka with the deśire to taste Kṛṣṇa's honey sweet lips."

Absorbed in samādhi and overcome with prema-rasa, those young, pure-hearted girls with thin waists offered ācamana again while saying, "We offer you this ācamana with the deśire to repeatedly drink the nectar from Kṛṣṇa's lotus mouth."

They brought aromatic oil in a jeweled container for massaging the body. Even without any wind it automatically dispersed its rich fragrance through the air. It was an attractive deep red oil just suitable for massage. The gopīs said, "O Devī! Please accept this oil for massaging your body. Please attach our bodies, which are saturated with prema, to each of Kṛṣṇa's limbs."

To remove the oil they used a soft scented powder, which seemed like a spray from a fountain of concentrated bliss. While doing this the gopīs said, “We offer this fragrant powder to you. Please remove our sorrow by giving us the association of Kṛṣṇa."

They respectfully offered bathing water scented with the finest camphor and kept in a golden vessel. "We offer you this finely scented bath water. Please arrange for us to bathe in the nectar of Kṛṣṇa's association."

The Vraja kumārīs very methodically offered a neatly folded sari woven with golden threads. "O Devī! Please accept this golden sarī. Please arrange that our clothes will be exchanged with Kṛṣṇa's clothes." They brought the best quality flawless jewels and ornaments made by expert goldsmiths. "Please decorate yourself, O Devī, with these priceless ornaments. And please adorn us with the nectar of Kṛṣṇa's limbs."

The young, lotus-eyed gopīs brought attractive ointments made of aguru, camphor, and musk. "O Devī! We offer you these opulent ointments. Please arrange that our bodies will become anointed with the touch of Kṛṣṇa's limbs."
The air attained good fortune by carrying the pleasing, celestial aromas of the various scents presented by the gopīs. 

"O Devī! We offer you these scents which enliven the nostrils. Please make our limbs fragrant with the aroma from Kṛṣṇa's body." They offered Vṛndāvana flowers from all six seasons, which were very colorful, covered with sweet pollen, and surrounded by bees. "O Devī! Let our lips be worshiped by Kṛṣṇa's teeth which conquer the beauty of kunda flowers."

They offered incense made from black aguru, khus root, and clusters of the finest gulgul, saying, "O Devī! We offer you this pleasing incense smoke. Please show us your effulgence and pacify our burning hearts."

While offering opulent ghee lamps mixed with camphor, the gopīs prayed, "Please illumine the house of our breasts with the lamp of Kṛṣṇa's kaustubha jewel." They offered milk, butter, rock candy, bananas, coconuts, mung dal, sun-dried rice, cakes soaked in sugar water, malpoa, sweet rice, cooked grains, amṛtā-keli, and assorted little tasty cakes covered with powdered rock candy icing.

While presenting these delicacies to Kātyāyanī the girls prayed, "Please eat all these pure and pleasing food offerings. And please give us the remnants from the lotus mouth of the ever-youthful Kṛṣṇa. Fixing their minds on their goal, the gopīs chanted the following mantra with full feeling:

kātyāyanī mahā-māye,
mahā-yogīny adhīśvari,
nanda-gopa-sutaṁ devī,
patiṁ me kuru te namaḥ

"O goddess Kātyāyanī! O great potency of the Lord! O possessor ot great mystic power and mighty controller of all! Please make the son of Nanda Mahārāja our husband. We offer our obeisances unto you."

Then they muttered japa with clear pronunciation. While offering tāmbūla and ācamana the gopīs said, "Please relish this tāmbūla made of betel, cloves, camphor, and cardamom. And please color our lips with the juice of Kṛṣṇa's tāmbūla ."

Performing ārati, they said, "O Mahesvari! We show these lamps to you in hopes that you will please illumine our limbs with the glow of Kṛṣṇa's limbs."

After ārati they gracefully bowed down on the ground and offered eloquent prayers disclosing their minds' deśires. The gopīs prayed, "O mother of Ganesh! Neither your husband Mahādeva, nor Brahmā, nor Bṛhaspati can offer suitable praise to you, what to speak of others. We are greedy only to taste Kṛṣṇa. 

Therefore, we glorify you so that you will stop the itching of our tongues. O Mahesvari! Please shower your mercy upon us.

"You are called Yogamāyā, the potency of Mahā-Viṣṇu, who possesses all energies. You have the power to do the impossible. You are peace, tolerance, nourishment, satisfaction, knowledge and ignorance. Although you bind the living entities, you are the giver of liberation. O mother of all! By your glance the creation, maintenance, and destruction of the world takes place. 

"O Devī! You are the pinnacle of all auspiciousness. Your order and glories are sitting like a swan on the heads of all the devatās. You are expert in worshiping Kṛṣṇa, and you are the supreme Vaiṣṇavī. O Parameśvarī! O supreme goddess! You always engage in the welfare of others. We pay our respects unto you. You perfectly understand the minds of all living entities. So please fulfill our deśire to achieve Kṛṣṇa as our husband."

Upon finishing their personal prayers for that day, the gopīs paid respects and offered the deity of Kātyāyanī to the Yamunā. Throughout the days and nights of the entire month of the vrata the young girls maintained their unswerving zeal. Their throats always sung about Kṛṣṇa's qualities. As the days passed the gopīs offered more items and increased the standard of worship.

Kātyāyanī-devī was pleased with their pure offerings and regular worship. Thus the gopīs hoped to attain her grace. Indeed, just before the end of the month they received the mercy of Devī. Everyone suspected that the gopīs wanted wealth like any ordinary human being. But the gopīs did not want any wealth from their worship of Yogamāyā or the devatās.

The all-auspicious Kātyāyanī fulfills deśires, and bestows mercy and happiness upon those qualified with a pure heart. She reciprocated with the Vraja kumārīs by appearing within their minds saying, "O auspicious girls! You are the embodiments of Kṛṣṇa's conjugal attraction. You will attain all good fortune by worshiping Kṛṣṇa. The devotees of Lakṣmī, who fulfills all deśires, do not worship other devatās to attain the favor of Lakṣmī-devī. 

Your sincere prayer ornaments your heart and indicates your longing for Kṛṣṇa. Your prayers also make me glorious. Very soon you will attain the association of Kṛṣṇa according to your individual tastes. Now you can stop your austerities." After speaking thus, Kātyāyanī disappeared from their hearts. The words of the goddess greatly increased the gopīs' faith.

On the last day of the vrata, the gopīs felt quivering in their left arms, eyes, and thighs. These signs of imminent auspiciousness removed their fatigue, and made them confident of attaining the fruit of their deśire to enjoy with Kṛṣṇa. As they considered how to best complete their vrata, the sun rose brilliantly in the sky. The lotuses responded by opening happily as the atmosphere saturated with immeasurable joy."

From Ananda Vrindavana Campu by Kavi Karnapura
Stealing the Garments of the Gopis, p.79-88

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PADA: An ISKCON devotee went to the Mayapur "disciples class" and was recommended to take initiation from a GBC guru -- Bhakti Prem swami. After that, the devotee began to have doubts about their guru. After that -- the devotee claims to have found out their guru was in fact having full on illicit gay affairs, and perhaps so were other big ISKCON leaders. Of course, PADA can not always validate all of these claims, but it seems to fit in with the pattern of other "gay gurus" in ISKCON. 

Anyway, so the devotee went back to the Mayapura class leaders -- and complained, and they told the devotee "so what, he will get better eventually." Well yep. Eventually, everyone's sinful life "gets better" -- just like Jayatirtha's sinful life got better, because -- he died. When a person dies -- his current sinful life gets "cured," hee hee -- sure enough. That does not mean he is sinless, it just means his sins have transferred over to another location and another body. 

Sorry, there is no actual process of worshiping sinful people as God's messiahs -- while waiting for them to "get better." The ICC also has their people worshiping a pedophile like Lokanath, but no problem, he will get better, or he has got better. Sorry, a person inclined to be a pedophile is not, was not, and could not have been -- God's successor. Ever. We are not supposed to be worshiping a sinful man -- to be as good as God -- on the plea he will "get better eventually." Sinful people who need to "get better eventually" are not God's successors, period. Mixing their gay gurus with pure raganuga bhakti, assisting the gopis etc. and what could go wrong?

And what about all of the ISKCON gurus who never got better, rather they just got worse and worse and worse. What is the guarantee this guy will get ANY better? Ever! Of course the real question is, why are they always juxtaposing sinful people with "God, and God's successors"? 

Why is ISKCON still telling people to worship their contaminated messiahs at all, especially -- after all the pain and problems they ALREADY caused for thousands of people -- including banning thousands, beating some, suing some, thousands of child abuses cases, and a few murders -- as already fully recorded as part of their track record? Never mind all the bad media, lawsuits, police raids etc. 

Srila Prabhupada says -- sinful and degraded people who are inclined towards illicit sex -- will for sure take future births as dogs -- who are sniffing the back sides of other dogs, and having open sex in the street -- like dogs, hogs, monkeys etc. And this degraded lowlife animalistic consciousness is what Jayapataka, the India ICC committee, Basu Ghosh, Bhakti Vikas swami, Alachua ISKCON and others have been saying -- is found in -- the successors to God? 

So now this poor victim "ISKCON devotee" says, we should take Srila Prabhupada's murtis out of the temples because "we should not worship another ordinary human." So this is the result of the GBC's making ordinary humans, or worse, degraded humans, or worse -- butt sniffing dogs, into their messiahs. Now people think Krishna and His successors are mundane people, or even, butt sniffing dogs.

Then again Srila Prabhupada says people who like to stand naked, like persons making pornography, are going to take future births as trees where they will stand naked for hundreds -- or thousands -- of years. And ISKCON guru Gunagrahi was self admitted addicted to pornography, and then ISKCON buried him in a samadhi. The upshot? People who are going to take future birth as trees and suffer a terrible life of ignorance, belong in a samadhi? The GBC has no idea that a sinful lusty man, who will become an ignorant naked tree, and God, are not the same in quality?  

Again, we should never forget, according to Srila Prabhupada, when we say a degraded person is the successor to God, it is the same as saying God is "qualitatively the same" as a degraded person. In other words, God is also another dog, an ignorant tree etc. just like them and their messiahs.    

So this is the problem we have with ISKCON ICC scholars like Sridhar Srinivasa of Coimbatore, and his India Continental Committee folks etc. -- they evidently cannot tell the difference between a butt sniffing dog, and God, and God's successors -- while claiming to be great sanskrit scholars. What kind of Vedic scholar has no idea that a current or future butt sniffing dog, a naked tree, and God, are not "quality the same." OK these guys.

So my legal friend -- who is a lawyer -- says -- if someone is told to worship a debauchee -- it is called -- corrupting their morals, and it is fraud. And when this happens to a child, it is called corrupting the morals of minors, which is also fraud -- and both are crimes.

So my legal friend is amazed, and no small amount of appalled, that after so many cases of corrupting the morals of minors by making them worship debauchees, never mind all the problems most of these minors had from said program of worshiping various debauchees, no legal action seems to be ever taken -- to legally charge anyone with anything, ever. And he believes that is sending the wrong message to the children victims.

Many states have opened up the time frame for legal action to be without limitations, so why is no one doing anything now -- is what he wants to know? The fact that ISKCON is evidently still promoting active gay gurus at the present time -- and making children worship them -- is the result of mass inaction to contain this problem. God is qualitatively the same as sinful men, that is what the Satanists, atheists, pasandis and criminals have preached for millions of years. 

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com

India ICC

God is equal to a dog.

Any objections?

None?

It is a passed resolution.

Indradyumna and little girl. 

RE: Windle Turley Lawsuit / Sacindandana swami / 11 25 23

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PADA: A woman said her husband was arguing about Tamal's poisoning of Prabhupada with some of the GBC's leaders in Europe in 1982. Evidently, more people knew about this a long way back. "The open secret." 

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Windle Turley Lawsuit

Dear PADA, the suspicion is that the legendary eleven went to the inheritance court in New York in 1978 and presented themselves as the new owners of ISKCON appointed by Prabhupada in the July9th letter. Is it possible to check this out? 

PADA: That is what happened direct or de facto -- the 11 gurus appointed "their disciples" [loyalists] as the temple's legal charity signatures. That is still the case now, only their loyal followers are allowed on as the temple board's legal signers. Unfortunately, even some GBC people said, this is going to be a full on disaster when we all leave our bodies -- and the temple boards are full of a bunch of Hindus -- who are not really loyal to Prabhupada, nor are they well versed in the siddhanta. 

Already this is a big problem with the India ICC committee board. They are writing to tell me how much a bogus mleccha I am, because I do not include -- illicit sex with men, women and children, debauchees, Andy Warhol's disciple homosexuals, drunks, perverts, pill poppers, predators and etc. as past or present "links" in Krishna's guru successor's parampara. 

They promote worship of Lokanath swami, who was "voted in as guru" by their illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. That means they do not even know that an illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara, disqualifies all involved persons from being in the parampara, never mind such degraded folks cannot participate in voting in more parampara members, like Lokanath, Gaura Govinda swami etc. 

They have no idea that Krishna is pure and so are His successors. Clueless, and now -- on the management boards worldwide. And that is also why someone said they see all sorts of "man to man" hugging, placing heads on each other's laps, and some sort of "male cuddling activity" going on in Mayapura, they have been degrading the ISKCON society by using their "take over of the assets" as their main tool to do that.   

Windle Turley could certainly force access to the files. Normally, after the 12-month objection period, there is no longer any access to files because inheritance courts work in such a way that if no one objects, the application is legally binding after twelve months. That's why it took the Gaudiya-matha leaders forty years until Sridhar and Kunja Babu were awarded the buildings. 

Some godbrothers were always filing an appeal with the court. In the case of ISKCON, all documents were kept hidden in 1978. Nobody knew what was going on and that's why it could be that the New York probate court recognized the eleven rascals as legal heirs. What also supports this option is that the gurus were then appointed GBCs themselves, and the gurus monitored themselves. 

Thus the GBC was the new owner of global ISKCON. A blatant breach of separation of powers. Prabhupada wanted temples to be owned by the local temple charities with an elected board of directors. That's why the gurus kicked out thousands of Prabhupada disciples. They were the new owners of the buildings and legally were in the position to execute domiciliary rights.

ys GK

PADA: Well yes, when we came out in 1997 saying ISKCON is basically a Satanic Child Abuse cult, which was hijacked by poisoners, molesters etc. -- then we immediately had a lot of push back from ISKCON's members, and their allies like -- Krishna Kant's IRM, Kamsahanta, Naranaryana Visvakarma, Sanat, Mukunda, and subsequently guys like Prahlad das UK, HKC Jaipur, Pancali and others. 

They began to argue that PADA is "destroying the golden body of Srila Prabhupada and Krishna." OK then, a Satanic homosexual and pedophile guru process that is banning, beating, molesting, suing and killing Vaishnavas is -- the golden body of God? Apart from these guys, who else believes that a Satanic child sacrifice / abuse cult is -- the same as -- the golden body of the Supreme God? 

Yep, conduct a public survey on any city street anywhere in the world. How many ordinary people walking down the street think a homosexual and pedophile Satanic mass child abuse / pedophile worshiping cult is -- the golden body of God? OK it is ONLY these guys, the small amount of the cult members -- and their allies -- who think this odious out cropping is the golden body of God, while nearly cent percent of the people outside the cult think -- this is a dangerous deviation, an offense to God, a hazard to children, and could be fatal for dissenters. 

Even Dr. Stilson Judah told Jagajivan, ISKCON will never grow until it gets rid of its entrenched criminal and homosexual problem. So whomever the property belongs to technically, they are evidently in cahoots with this agenda. We don't really see the legal signers on ISKCON's managerial boards making public complaints about these issues. Then again, many ISKCON properties are operating under another charity name, so it is hard to tell what is actually legal ISKCON these days.

But yes, you are correct -- the people and properties that Windle Turley sued are not and were not any longer ISKCON, because they do not follow the original aim and object of ISKCON. The institution has been hijacked. Whether the leaders used some inheritance clause / legal tricks, or plain old "crooked and illegal" tricks, they conquered the assets and took over the bricks and stones. 

And then they kicked nearly everyone out so they could make a Hindu deity showing business out of the buildings, and force everyone remaining to worship their Satanic predator guru's process. Thus, suing this operation is not suing ISKCON, as ISKCON has been long gone from this operation since 1978. 

So that means the GBC and their allies, which includes these compromised IRM style reformers, have been in illusion. They think that the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children / predators / and / or Satanic homosexual pedophile guru cults etc. -- are the same as -- the golden body of God, and therefore should not be sued, because they have lost their spiritual vision, if they ever had any. 

And meanwhile, even the mundane materialist people know -- full well -- that Satanic child abuse cults are not authorized by God, nor are they the golden body of God. They are at best, the stinky stool bags body of Satanic beings. "There are none so blind as those who refuse to see." And all of the pedophile messiah's cult hangers on and sycophants like Alachua ISKCON, Adi Karta, Rucira, Aniha, Krishna Kirti, Brahma Tirtha, Krishna Kshetra swami etc. have enabled all of the above by being its defenders and cheer leaders. And yeah, that means they have the blood of thousands of their victim citizens on their hands. 

In sum, the anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiah's club was caused by -- all of the above -- and they are all conjointly responsible for the mass abuse, and the take over of the properties of ISKCON, because they participated or enabled it.

Thus there is their "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as God's messiahs," and there is their sycophant enabling crew. And that is the reason this agenda took over ISKCON, and its property, it was a big lie supported by many assistants. 

Sulochana said these people are not advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog stools, because a bucket of dog stools will not ban, beat, molest, sue and kill Vaishnavas, but the good news is that in the future they will take another birth and become advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog stools because their consciousness will eventually become more elevated after many future births and deaths. 

The property take over was only possible by the leaders and their assistant enablers, sycophants, and various compromisers, and fools who kept saying that their molester messiah's project is "the golden body of God." And that aided and abetted handing off the properties to the leaders of this process. 

In sum, people who cannot distinguish pedophile cults from "the golden body of God," are in illusion, and no small amount of it. And yeah, that is why these people often complain that PADA is destroying their golden body of God, which is actually their concocted pedophile pooja worship and mass child abuse in reality. They are in illusion. 

ys pd

angel108b@yahoo.com   

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Sacinandan swami:

"Let's get our priorities right. Otherwise, I am afraid that our movement will turn into a religion and lose its spiritual quality. Religious people stick to a belief system and want to identify with a group of similar believers. That is the source of their stability.

Spiritual men have a different agenda. Not that interested in the belief system. In a way, they are not even interested in identifying with the group. Their main interest is to transform their hearts so that they become qualified to start their real lives. They are interested in things that have eternal value. The value of life is giving back to God and learning what is necessary for that."

Sacinandana Swami (from lectures at Prabhupadadesh, Italy, 06) of june 2023 and a meeting of students in Switzerland, 18. of june 2023 years)

Well you did a good job.

You transformed the hearts that formerly worshiped pure devotees 

into:

hearts that worshiped your pedophile and predator pals.

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''The Absolute Personality of Godhead, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, expands Himself by His plenary Paramātmā portion in everyone’s heart, and thus He directs everyone in the matter of recollection, forgetfulness, knowledge, the absence of intelligence and all psychological activities (Bg. 15.15). As the Supreme Lord, He can increase or decrease the duration of life of a living being.''

ŚB 1.15.15

yo bhīṣma-karṇa-guru-śalya-camūṣv adabhra-
rājanya-varya-ratha-maṇḍala-maṇḍitāsu
agrecaro mama vibho ratha-yūthapānām
āyur manāṁsi ca dṛśā saha oja ārcchat

Synonyms

yaḥ — it is He only; bhīṣma — Bhīṣma; karṇa — Karṇa; guru — Droṇācārya; śalya — Śalya; camūṣu — in the midst of the military phalanx; adabhra — immense; rājanya-varya — great royal princes; ratha-maṇḍala — chain of chariots; maṇḍitāsu — being decorated with; agecaraḥ — going forward; mama — of mine; vibho — O great King; ratha-yūtha-pānām — all the charioteers; āyuḥ — duration of life or fruitive activities; manāṁsi — mental upsurges; ca — also; dṛśā — by glance; sahaḥ — power; ojaḥ — strength; ārcchat — withdrew.

Translation

It was He only who withdrew the duration of life from everyone and who, in the battlefield, withdrew the speculative power and strength of enthusiasm from the great military phalanx made by the Kauravas, headed by Bhīṣma, Karṇa, Droṇa, Śalya, etc. Their arrangement was expert and more than adequate, but He [Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa], while going forward, did all this.

Purport

The Absolute Personality of Godhead, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, expands Himself by His plenary Paramātmā portion in everyone’s heart, and thus He directs everyone in the matter of recollection, forgetfulness, knowledge, the absence of intelligence and all psychological activities (Bg. 15.15). As the Supreme Lord, He can increase or decrease the duration of life of a living being. Thus the Lord conducted the Battle of Kurukṣetra according to His own plan. He wanted that battle to establish Yudhiṣṭhira as the Emperor of this planet, and to facilitate this transcendental business He killed all who were on the opposite party by His omnipotent will. 

The other party was equipped with all military strength supported by big generals like Bhīṣma, Droṇa and Śalya, and it would have been physically impossible for Arjuna to win the battle had the Lord not helped him by every kind of tactic. Such tactics are generally followed by every statesman, even in modern warfare, but they are all done materially by powerful espionages, military tactics and diplomatic maneuvers. But because Arjuna was the Lord’s affectionate devotee, the Lord did all this Himself without personal anxiety by Arjuna. That is the way of the devotional service to the Lord.

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