ISKCON False Jesus "Suffering From Taking Sins" (Bhakti Chaitanya swami)

VP Dasi: Sri Narasimha Bhagavan Ki Jai. Srila Dearest Gurudev Ki Jai.

Sri Sri Radhe Krsna please bestow all Your mercy and blessings upon our Dearest Gurudev who is suffering due to our sins. We love our Gurudev who is always merciful and kind to all of us. Haribol. 

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His condition has deteriorated after the surgery and he is going back for an emergency operation. Please pray for his well being and recovery! 

[PADA: Wait! Many ISKCON people keep telling me that no, the GBC's gurus are not saying they are absorbing sins (like Jesus). Yet time / after time / after time / after time, we see messages from their followers saying their guru is falling down, getting sick -- or even dying -- from taking their disciples' sins. OK that makes them supposedly -- equals to Jesus, i.e. they can absorb the sins of others. 

Except! When did Srila Prabhupada say that 11 of his followers, or ANY his followers, are as good as Jesus -- and they can absorb the sins of others? Not what he said. He said the direct opposite -- if his followers take sins from others they are going to get sick, fall down or both (or die) because they ARE NOT AUTHORIZED to take sins, because they are NOT equals to Jesus.

Some people say that we are harping too much on this issue, maybe so. But we keep seeing example after example where this principle is not being understood.

At the same time, shastra says false gurus have to go to the most obnoxious regions -- and now we know why. 

They are taking at least a partial load of sins from dozens, hundreds, or maybe thousands of other people, and they are over-burdened with these sins. So they will have to work hard in Yamaraja's coal mines for a long, long, long time to clear off those sins. How long? Srila Prabhupada says one little mistake can cost us millions of years, and set us back a long time, what to speak then of wholesale deviating for a lifetime. 

Sorry! People cannot make pretend they are another Jesus, then pray to Krishna to fix their false claims. At the same time, we hold no grudge here. They wanted to absorb sinful karma from others, which includes: maybe eating thousands of hamburgers; one, two or more abortions; maybe a murder or two; and who knows what else, and they did absorb some, part, or a lot -- of that karma. 

Now they have to pay the Piper. I could be angry at them, but why bother? They are doomed by dint of superior powers than me. Now they are going to have to account for all the karma they accumulated. Meanwhile imitating people like Jesus is a severe aparadha all by itself. And they will have to pay for that too. And in addition they have to really pay heavily for all their program's banning, beating, molesting, suing and murders that their bogus guru's program has generated against the devotees of God.

Bhakti Chaitanya swami is also another famous waffling flip-flopper on the issue of whether or not a pedophile can take the post of guru. As Sulochana says "I would not trade my past two billion years of bad karma for one minute of their future karma."

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com 

Being a karma vacuum cleaner does not work for a conditioned soul, never mind 

a deviated conditioned soul.

The good news is that Bhakti vikas swami told this guy to take thousands

and thousands of people's karma, so he got away with less for himself.

The bad news is, BVKS is going to get horrific karma for promoting these things.

 

Angelina Jolie Visits Food for Life Kharkiv

 Food of Life. "Varshana". Kharkiv – Telegram

[PADA: Good job guys. Same basic idea as Bangalore's Akshaya Patra. We need to give Krishna a good name after all the damage that was done by the 11 Naked Emperors and their assistants. Of course this is only a start, but it is a good sign. Anyone who is giving Krishna a good name these days should be given credit. ys pd]

Akshaya Patra Bangalore Receives Award

Germans Making Collective Food Gardens

 As food prices rise, Germans are growing their own (yahoo.com)

PADA: Good idea. Grow your own food. And yep, begs the question, what haven't devotees done this type thing a long time ago! This is a good model for how this project can be done. ys pd

Madi Das Brinkman Cancer Update

 krishna1008: Prayers for Madi Brinkman (Prithu's Son)

krishna1008: Rupanuga's "Satanic Offerings" Plan for ISKCON?

krishna1008: Conversation on ISKCON's Cancer Epidemic / Poison Issue / Etc.

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PADA: Good luck and God speed. A devotee who has recovered from cancer for about ten years now said -- you should be taking: -- Pau d' arco teas and extract, clove powder and oil extract, wormwood oil extract, black walnut oil extract, and eating bitter melons, lemons and so on. And -- avoid sugar at all costs. 

AND OFFER YOUR BHOGHA TO SRILA PRABHUPADA.

If anyone else has some good ideas we will post them here.

I am not sure if these items would help in your case for sure, but it is worth a try. 

ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com

Lord Siva's Brahmastra Bollywood Drama

[PADA: Wow, this looks like lots of fun, even if there is a lot of speculation going on here. Let me know if you watch it and send me a review. ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com] 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/disney-adds-bollywood-epic-brahmastra-210727792.html

We May Have to Nuke Everything! (Julia Davis / Putin's Stooges)

Reports of "smell of dead bodies for miles" around some of these complexes, many bodies buried under mountains of rubble, because there is hardly no one to go in there and clean up the place. But the good news is! Russia came here to "save these people"! Of course! Ok this is also called the karma chakra, taking people out ... 

https://news.yahoo.com/putin-stooges-may-nuke-us-183813392.html?

The Daily Beast

Putin’s Stooges: He May Nuke Us All but We Are Ready to Die

Julia Davis

Wed, April 27, 2022, 11:38 AM

Russian President Vladimir Putin ominously warned on Wednesday that if any other country intervenes in Ukraine, Russia will respond with “instruments… nobody else can boast of, and we will use them if we have to.”

In recent days, Russian state media has been hyping up the same rhetoric, bombarding audiences with jarring declarations that World War III is imminent. Every major channel is promoting the idea of an inevitable, never-before-seen escalation over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which is being portrayed as a war waged against the Kremlin by the collective West. Patriotic citizens are now being primed for the idea that even the worst outcome is a good thing, because those dying for the motherland will skyrocket to paradise.

[PADA: Oh boy, here we go. We are fighting on behalf of God, and if we get killed, we are all going to heaven. Our opponents will all go to hell. Well, maybe not. You might be re-born in a war zone and be attacked yourself.]

During Tuesday’s broadcast of 60 Minutes, Vladimir Avatkov of Russia’s Diplomatic Academy of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs delivered an Orwellian perspective of current events. "What is happening right now is not about Ukraine, but about the future world order, which has no room for hegemony and where Russia can’t be isolated."

[PADA: Too late. Russia is already isolated. Everyone wants to avoid anything Russian, even the Russian restaurants in USA are having problems. And this problem will only get worse as the economic / trade freeze continues.]

Host Olga Skabeeva described a summit hosted by the U.S. in Germany that day to discuss upping Ukraine’s defense capabilities as a sign that this is indeed “World War III, no longer just a special operation, with 40 countries against us. They declared a war.” Portraying global opponents of Russian aggression as evil incarnate, political scientist Mikhail Markelov claimed: “The representatives of those 40 different countries are today’s collective Hitler.”

[PADA: Except bombing civilians is what Hitler was doing.]

Later the same day, on The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, host Vladimir Solovyov lamented the West’s refusal to heed the Kremlin’s warnings. “If they decide to support Ukraine—even though [Russia’s Foreign Minister] Sergey Lavrov told them that this could lead to WWIII—nothing will stop them. They’ve decided to play it big... These are the bastards with no morals.” 

[PADA: Well nope, other countries are not saying things will have to go nuclear, only Russia is saying that.]

Head of RT Margarita Simonyan added: “Personally, I think that the most realistic way is the way of World War III, based on knowing us and our leader, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, knowing how everything works around here, it’s impossible—there is no chance — that we will give up.”

[PADA: Yep, after you already lost 15-20,000 soldiers and billions of dollars, why quit when you are behind? Keep digging the hole you are already in ...]

In perhaps the most shocking declaration about a nuclear holocaust delivered on Russian television in recent months, Simonyan concluded that the idea “that everything will end with a nuclear strike, to me, is more probable than the other outcome. This is to my horror, on one hand, but on the other hand, with the understanding that it is what it is.” Solovyov chimed in: “But we will go to heaven, while they will simply croak.” Simonyan comforted the audiences by adding: “We’re all going to die someday.”

[PADA: We all have to die some day, and go to heaven! And if we burn billions of people to death in a nuclear holocaust, we will get there too! God just simply loves the people who burn billions of people to death in a nuclear holocaust! Really?]

Once the conversation turned to Western arms deliveries to Ukraine and a series of fires and explosions on Russian territory, Solovyov pondered out loud: “What is preventing us from striking the territory of the United Kingdom, targeting those logistical centers where these arms are being loaded?” 

[PADA: This is not going to end well now. Ukraine folks will be crossing the border in small hit groups to kill some folks here and there, and blow things up here and there, in Russia. And that will go on for the indefinite future. Blowing up UK might not be a good idea either, they have nuclear devices that could turn Russia into fine dust powder. No one wins a nuclear war.]

Andrey Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at Moscow State University, retorted that rather than strike the U.K., Russia should target the real mastermind: America. He specified: “If we decide to strike the U.K., we should rather decide to strike the United States… Final decisions are being made not in London, but in Washington. If we want to hit the real center of the West, then we need to strike Washington.”

[PADA: Well yup, even if you blow up the whole USA, one surviving Trident sub carries more firepower than all of the weapons and bombs used in WW II. Russia will be turned into melted glass. Of course, they are all going to go to heaven, so who cares! Really?]

Attacks Begin in New Country as Russia Warns Nuclear Threat Is ‘Real’

In a bizarre attempt to soften the blow of Russia’s grim predicament, state TV host and media personality Dmitry Kulikov told audiences that war is sometimes “inevitable.” “This is a big war. The West declared it against us. It’s being waged through different methods, never seen before, but there’s never been as many nuclear weapons in the world either,” he said. “That is the only thing that sets this war apart from all others. This is a historical event, something we’re used to. Let’s be worthy of our predecessors, everyone who lived through that. What made us think that our lives should be better than those of our grandparents? Why should we be free of our historical mission?”

[PADA: Your history is to murder masses of people. Even your own people. We all got that already.]

Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova appeared on the same program and continued with the same hard line. Solovyov asked her: “How far is the West ready to go?” Without hesitation, Zakharova replied: “They’ll go as far as they’re allowed to. If they aren’t stopped, they will go all the way.”

[PADA: The West is not threatening to blow up Russia. But if the West is attacked with nukes, they will respond in kind.]

Adding his two cents to the nuclear apocalypse sideshow on Wednesday was military expert and retired Colonel Yury Knutov. “I’ve been observing the American approach from its top levels of leadership towards Russia for several years now,” he said on the state TV show 60 Minutes. “For some reason, they believe that Russia can be choked for as long as it takes, until it surrenders, and Russia will never respond or use its nuclear weapons or its nuclear potential… They themselves are creating the situation when there is a threat to the existence of our nation and our military doctrine prescribes that it gives us the right to use nuclear weapons.”

[PADA: Using nukes will not fix the situation.]

Throughout the program, close-up photographs depicting dead Ukrainian servicemen were repeatedly shown on the screen. Knutov praised the production choice. “We see the Ukrainian land flooded by corpses of Ukrainian soldiers and National Guardsmen… our media needs to be showing more of that.”

[PADA: Well there are lots of corpses on both sides. You guys wanted to kill others, and so you are being killed. This is called karma. 

Anyway, it is interesting Russia is discussing nukes now. That means, they are losing on the conventional side, and they are also losing on the world opinion side. More and more people of the world are thinking they are the aggressors, and now that they are talking about their next plan, to blow up billions of people. So they are losing even more world opinion. 

How popular are the people who want a nuclear holocaust to end the world? They are just making themselves more and more despised. Of course they are also dangerous, we can blow up the whole world, so what, we get to heaven! 

I know, that does not mean Ukraine people are saints either. But they are not threatening to blow up billions of people. Anyway lets see what happens, it is interesting that Russia is more and more saying they might have to blow up billions of people to win their Ukraine war, and who cares because they are doing God's work and they will go to heaven, and that is not a good sign. 

This is called religious fanaticism. We see this in smaller scales, there are mass murderers who think they are doing God's work and they are going to heaven, but if one of them has the power to blow up billions, then what?

All of this means? Better surrender to Krishna, this place is not going to get better. 

ys pd]

Rupanuga's "Satanic Offerings" Plan for ISKCON?

 

PADA: The guru speaks as Krishna dictates, and therefore Krishna says -- He wanted the children of ISKCON to worship Rupanuga's illicit sex with men, women and children messiah compadres. What! Krishna wanted the children of ISKCON to worship Rupanuga's 11 naked emperors -- with no clothes -- as God's successors! Why does Rupanuga want ISKCON's little children to worship his illicit sex and drugs messiah's program in the first place? Won't that contaminate the children? 

Umm, well yup it will. Worship of deviants will contaminates the worshipers, well known principle. Now Rupanuga is trying to say that Srila Prabhupada ordered that people would worship Rupanuga's pedophile pals as their messiahs. Umm nope. 

Another devotee wrote to PADA to say that so many devotees are dying of cancer because Krishna is "cleaning house," He is getting rid of all these compromisers. Yes, that is perhaps one way of looking at it. This devotee writes, "what is the use of a long life if it is not conducted properly? Better to die early." 

Maybe so. 

When people are supposed to defend religion, and they do not, they can be punished, just as the Kauravas were. My theory all along is that, just as Srila Prabhupada told me -- unless the bhogha is offered properly, it remains contaminated. So the Rupanuga plan has been to have people offering food to deviants engaged in illicit sex, drugs, porno watching, gambling in Reno, having sex with half dozen disciples, drinking Vodka and other deviations, and that contaminates the food offered to such contaminated beings. The food becomes INFECTED with these qualities.

And then people eat that contaminated (poisoned) food, and it makes them get sick, fall down, or die. Wow, so the next follow up phase after poisoning Srila Prabhupada was, to have people eat poisoned / contaminated offerings, to make them get sick, fall down, or die, i.e. also be poisoned. And the only question now is, was that their whole plan the whole time,? i.e. to poison Prabhupada and then poison his followers with contaminated offerings? Kill him with poison, and then kill his followers with poisoned offerings to contaminated beings?

One of my devotee ladies friends who has studied witchcraft previously said -- it is like the Satan people offer food to Satan, and then they give it to people to make them sick. Or die! Same principle. So Rupanuga has people offering their food to his illicit sex, drugs, pedophiles, criminals and orchestrators of murders program, and then the food is contaminated with these qualities. Same reason witches offer food to Satanic devils, to contaminate the offerings.

And in this way the Rupanuga team can spread their pedophile beeja "burnt offerings" all over the world. And children will be eating their pedophile beeja contaminated food, and they too will be contaminated, and that can destroy them mentally and physically through cancers etc. What better way to contaminate others, and even try to contaminate the whole world, than make the citizens eat food offered to Satanic beings? 

It will make them sick, mentally and physically. And maybe die. Of course again, the only question now is, was that always their plan? To destroy the citizens of ISKCON with toxic Satanic offered food, and kill the citizens of ISKCON by poisoning them de facto? And does this help explain the cancer epidemic in ISKCON? It might! My ex-witch lady pal says, yup, Rupanuga's Satanic offerings program IS FOR SURE what is causing this death and disease epidemic. 

So we need to offer our bhogha to Satanic beings engaged in deviations, except, where does Krishna say He wants conditioned souls to be worshiped as His successors? Or does Rupanuga say these things, and he is blaming Krishna for being the origin of saying these things? Is it like the bank robber who says "God wanted me to rob the bank." Are you sure of that? Or did you want to rob the bank, and now you are blaming God for your own devious deeds? 

I have never seen any statements from Srila Prabhupada that he wants conditioned souls to be worshiped as Krishna's successors after he departs. What we DO find INSTEAD is that Srila Prabhupada wrote to Rupanuga in 1974 telling him to MAKE SURE we DO NOT make false gurus like Sridhara Maharaja did in 1936. Because false gurus will DESTROY the mission, and dissenters (OK like Puranjana) were banned, beaten and KILLED in the 1940s and so we should not DUPLICATE that history. Neither we should offer bhogha to Satanic pedophiles either.

Of course, God evidently also wanted all sorts of people to make atom bombs and start giant wars and kill millions and billions of people -- and to do all sorts of other evil things -- going on all the time, and God is blamed as the person responsible. Ummm, nope. God is simply allowing the devious to do devious things, that does not mean He desired them to do that, or He that endorses their activities etc. 

Sorry to have to say this but, there is no evidence that Krishna or Srila Prabhupada ever said that 11 conditioned souls would become the successors to God in 1978. To be God's successor is not a cheap thing, and in fact the guru parampara for the past 5,000 years does not list heaps and heaps of people, only 32. Nor does Srila Prabhupada ever say we need to offer bhogha to Rupanuga's pedophile pals, this is all Rupanuga's concoction.

It is very rare that someone is actually God's successor. But Rupanuga thinks there were 11 in 1978, and these 11 had the authority to vote in another few hundred more -- thanks to Rupanuga's "50 man committee guru reform of 1986." Yep, offering bhogha to conditioned souls will contaminate the people eating such  Satanic offerings. It can make them get sick, fall down, or die. Was this always their plan? You tell me! ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

Rupanuga's Plan?

Have ISKCON's Children Offer Their Food to 

Rupanuga's Deviants and Pedophiles Pals.

That will act like offering food to Satan:

It will contaminate the children, and make them get sick.

Or fall down. Or die. 

Was that always their plan?

Conversation on ISKCON's Cancer Epidemic / Poison Issue / Etc.

Died -- from cancer. 

Anyway -- God speed to her soul.

PADA: Many devotees, both seniors and younger ones, have been getting cancer and other fatal ailments on a regular basis. My friend is a nurse and she says, ISKCON has a cancer epidemic. I have been posting cancer "fund me" cases on my blog for years now, there are many, many cases happening. My nurse friend also thinks, there is a psychological component to all these cases. She calls it "the lack of will to thrive." Anyway, we should pray for these victims. I got this report but am not sure of the details ... ys pd

May be an image of 1 person, eyeglasses and text that says 'DEAR DEVOTEES, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CHANT LORD NRSIMHA PRAYERS & HARE KRSNA MANTRA FOR OUR BELOVED MADI DASA PRABHU. YESTERDAY AUSTRALIA TIME Dear friends and family, our darling Madi AKA Joe/Johannes has been diagnosed with aggressive stage bladder cancer. He having urgent surgery tomorrow 1:30 pm Melbourne time. Please send your prayers and wishes that the cancer as not spread and he recovers quickly. Much love.'

SF DASI: I noticed the same thing - devotee community with most cancer deaths. Never seen anything like it.

WD: I feel it has a lot to do with all those chemicals in food, water and skies as well as 5G frequencies!

SF DASI: I feel it has to do first of all with bad chemicals all banned everywhere else in the world but not in India. There are chemicals in rice and other food.That includes DDT. But overall, for devotees, most of all their sickness and death is from stress.

PADA: Except the mundane people eat way more processed foods and chemicals than devotees, so they should be having an early death epidemic, not the devotees. My nurse friend specializes in end of life care, she says the materialists are out-living the devotees by wide margins. ys pd

WD: Hmm... Whose disciples are they? All Prabhupada's direct disciples or someone else?

PADA: All categories …

WD: Vaccines?

PADA: This was going on years ago, and besides everyone else has the vaccine, so nope, not a physical cause my nurse friend said … she said many years ago "lack of will to thrive" is her estimation.

MD: Oh no! When was this posted??

WD: You had me wondering hard. 

VMD: Yes especially commercial milk contains antibiotics, steroids, steroids, growth hormones, other toxins in their food and cows are given up to 12 different vaccines a year. No one seems to complain about the vaccines they get via milk. Hopefully Ahimsa milk does not contain all this dangerous carcinogenic stuff.

GM: That nurse is totally right. My first client in the field of psychotherapy was a beginning devotee who had such an avalanche of trauma, that she fell into a deep depression and got a brain tumor. After a single session (Timeline therapy) she did not come back, but many years later I found she had been doing the Timeline therapy by herself for two years. The tumor was gone.

SF DASI: So many devotees with that particular issue, tumors, cancer too. So sad but it is a fact.

GM: There is a way out. Brave enough to become one who can bring about the changes in this particular point? 

SF DASI: Devotees need more affirmative action. I have been mainly keeping and collecting "historical chronicles." My self, as a highly sensitive person - as soon as I started associating with ISKCON, naturally I suddenly became extremely sick. Starting with -- a life threatening hospital stay. I almost died. All after only few sessions with their psychological manipulation experts. Some of them -- high spirtually held positions in ISKCON. I think I 'll have PTSD for minimum next 3 lives from that association with them.

GV: I can share what will help you digest the past traumas, and acquire more spiritual strength. Just need to gather a small group of other interested devotees for a short series of online meetings.

WD: I've been enjoying your FB comments for a while now so please sign me up for your sessions.

VMD: It may be that Iskcon has a cancer epidemic but the whole world has one too. I remember way back when they said that one in five people will get cancer in their lives and it wasn’t easy to cure. Then it went down to one in three. These days its one in two but easier to cure. People who join cults often are anxious and sensitive types and may be extra prone to psycosematic illnesses. But we cannot deny the effects of our modern world on them. We live in an increasingly toxic world.

Srila Prabhupada died with all the symptoms of long term, untreated diabetes. He was diagnosed with that just weeks before in the UK. Though he knew he had it from the 60’s. I was often in his room upto 2 weeks before he passed. The Ayurvedic kavirajs were clueless and he was still drinking sweet milk. I think there is quite a lot of cover up or denial about it. No one wants to admit that the HK diet is unhealthy and that India is the world capital of Diabetes.

Many devotees prefer to think that Prabhupada was poisoned rather than think he died from a common and curable disease. Which the Kavirajs didn’t mention and wanted him to take Makhdwaj and crushed pearls. When Metformin actually works quickly. If there is to be an investigation into Prabhupada’s death, and there should be, the kavirajas should be prime suspects in any foul play. As far as I know Obesity and Diabetes are also above normal in the HK movement.

Taking all into consideration joining a cult is a very dangerous thing to do.

PADA: Srila Prabhupada's hair sample had large quantities of arsenic and cadmium. And there was a discussion about poisoning him going on in whispers according to the four audio forensic laboratories that made enhanced versions of the November tapes. And no one wants to discuss that. What the Kaviraja (Dr. Kurana) believes is, there was intentional poison. The other kaviraja found blood and bone marrow in the urine, and he too said this is heavy metal poison. The kavirajas were not able to control the situation, and they were afraid for themselves, and so were the devotees who were aware of the situation (and one of them is the person who got me copies of the November tapes). ys pd

VMD: I think most people are aware by now that Indian soil and ground water, especially in Vrndavan and Mayapura is heavily contaminated with Arsenic and Cadmium. The most recent research shows that hair samples taken from local people are massively above safe levels. As are deaths from Cancer. I’ll try to find a recent link by devotees who live in Vrndavan. 

PADA: So these people around him are discussing in whispers about poisoning him, for what good reason? ys pd

VMD: The kavirajs made no mention of Diabetes though he had all the symptoms. Weight loss, malnutrition, neuropathy, renal failure, appetite loss, morbidity, desire to die. He didn’t need to be given poison, he was about to die from diabetes. But yes he had heavy metals in his system and was still taking sugar. Poison to Diabetics. Heavy metals would be normal. The Kavirajs are guilty by ignorance. I’ve heard all the audio. It’s virtually in inaudible. Not proof at all.

PADA: The audio was enhanced by four professional audio forensic labs, and they made the transcripts. The labs work for the FBI. And the FBI in Gainesville listened to the tape and said this would be made into a felony murder case if it had happened here. The tape is very audible, they are discussing poison, poisoning gurus etc. and the whispers are just part of the overall discussion. Apart from that, no other persons have these levels of heavy metals in their system, even if they are drinking the water there. ys pd

VMD: I don’t think it’s clear audio. It could mean anything. But I’m sure the analytical equipment is better today. More research should be done. Has the GBC ever announced a verdict on Prabhupada’s death? Would they move to protect top leaders? It’s very possible.

They do do that. I do keep an open mind. It’s an awful thing to remain hanging over the movement. Along with other atrocities. One might be forgiven for thinking it’s a big mistake to be involved with the Hare Krishna movement if so much evil has gone on.

PADA: Yes, the Cadmium was found in a retest with more recent equipment. Voice prints using better equipment are being made now to identify the exact persons making the whispers etc. Of course, I already know "who is who" myself to some extent. 

Well yes, Jesus was crucified, and his supposed followers made the very corrupt various medieval Pope dynasties and so many wars no one could count. Even current wars are often based on so-called religion grounds. So we could say worship of Jesus is a mistake. But that is really what happens anytime, even when Krishna is here personally, there are immediately attacks on Him and all sorts of evil comes out of the woodwork and huge wars and other atrocities are made. Just because Jesus was crucified, and there has been tons of corruption in what is alleged to be his church does not nullify him or his religion. We cannot toss out the baby with the bath water. If we say religion is bad, or God is bad, because bad people hi-jacked His religion, that is our mistake. It is up to us to make sure that His religion is not hi-jacked and corrupted, that is a test for His actual followers. ys pd

VMD: I don’t disagree. Maybe they think an investigation is not in their interest. The truth can dangerous for career devotees. There are many YouTube videos on the subject of Arsenic and Cadmium in Indian soil and water. Residents of Mayapura and Vrndavan have massively high levels. A devotee in Vrndavan recently made a post about it. I can’t find it. Here is another. I think that so much heavy metal in Indian soil discounts that evidence. So the Audio is left. It should be put up again so all can have a listen.

https://youtu.be/3LjGBw2Gevc

50 million affected by Arsenic Poisoning in West Bengal

PADA: Fine, but does not explain why they are discussing poisoning him. Nor does it explain why his levels were off the charts of the regular found levels. Nor does it explain why other people in the area do not these high of levels of Cadmium. Nor does it explain why the tape was hidden in the first place. Nor does it explain why Tamal made another tape saying to Satsvarupa "Srila Prahbupada wanted us to give him something to make him disappear," and that tape is crystal clear, and so on and so on. Some arsenic is found there, true, but not at these levels found in his hair sample. Nor is cadmium found in the levels he had, etc. The GBC made a counter explanation, but their audio expert was a guy whose rock and roll recording studio went bankrupt, and their medical expert was not certified etc. ys pd

VMD: Actually I did observe that Prabhupada was frequently speaking about dying. He seemed to have a wish to die. He didn’t mind it happening. But his staff were constantly begging him to eat so that he would stay. He wasn’t very cooperative. Morbidity is a symptom of diabetes. He wanted to go on parikram but in his very frail state it might have killed him. Instead of giving him poison they could just have encouraged him to go.

Yes residents of certain areas like Vrndavan and Mayapura have way of the scale levels of Arsenic and cadmium in their bodies. It builds up in the body and never goes away. It’s not overnight. Prabhupada lived most of his life in these places. But apart from that it’s certain that he had long term untreated Diabetes as diagnosed a few weeks before in a Watford hospital and he died with the symptoms. In ‘69 he implied to Gargamuni that it caused his stroke and heart attack on the Jaladuta. Another independent audio analyst should listen to tapes.

Please post what you have so far if it’s convenient.

PADA: I was the first person to get the November 1977 tapes transcribed, no one else had copies up to then. When I played the tape to the first transcriber, a Los Angeles professional Bengali writer, he only listened for 30 seconds, stopped the tape, and said -- this man was killed with poison. I played the tape to some Brijabais, they started crying on the spot, saying -- he was poisoned. 

The FBI said -- this is a homicide. None of these people are talking about diabetes? And the people now working on voice prints of the speakers are also not mentioning diabetes? Diabetes is one issue, talking about poisoning people is another. One of the devotees investigating the poison issue was given "special prasadam" and the next day he was passing blood, there was broken glass in the food they gave him, and he had to get help from the hospital. He was not suffering from diabetes? ys pd

VMD: It’s well documented that in September ‘77 Prabhupada visited the Peace Hospital in Watford for a procedure. While there he was was tested for Diabetes. The doctor diagnosed, long term, untreated diabetes. He was even interviewed about his meeting with Prabhupada a few years ago. It’s on Vani or somewhere.

These people you spoke to may be unqualified. Making a judgment after 30 seconds is dodgy. Having Arsenic, Cadmium and sugar is poison too but Diabetes is certain.

My point is that the Ayurvedic doctors failed because they didn’t mention or treat Prabhupada for Diabetes. Metformin is the most successful treatment.

PADA: Ok so the Bengali writer, the Brijabasis, the audio labs, the hair sample labs, the FBI and others think the November tapes and other evidences indicate a crime, and the devotees think the November tapes indicate a diabetes problem? And the Dallas courts think there is a huge molesting program going on, and meanwhile the devotees as a group are shouting insults at me for creating a big lawsuit? 

And the West Virginia Sherrif's office is consulting me before raiding New Vrndavana, and the devotees at the time are writing that this is the best spiritual community in the world. That is the pattern all the time? The people I am talking to are way more qualified than the devotees generally, yes as a matter of fact, that is correct. 

And right now I am working with another group that is making another professional historical account (that will eventually be made public) and they tell me the same thing, the devotees as a group do not agree with me, but they do agree with me. The FBI does not make judgements in 30 seconds, neither do the Dallas courts, neither do the many professional historians that I have helped with books, TV shows, news articles etc. and I am still helping now with a very detailed account of the history. They do their homework, and it is the devotees as a group who do things in 30 seconds, not them. ys pd

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PADA: First of all I never said there was no diabetes. I said that the Bengali writer who did the original transcript, the Brijabasis who were crying on hearing the tape, the Gainesville FBI who said the tape and hair sample and prove a homicide, the four professional audio forensic labs, the hair samples lab, and others, never mentioned diabetes. 

When Tamal says Srila Prabhupada said he wanted us to give him something to make him disappear, that does not sound like a diabetes issue either, except yes, Srila Prabhupada did complain, the milk is too sweet. I could mention diabetes, but it is not the primary issue at hand. Srila Prabhupada says he is being given poison, everyone in the room agrees he says he is being given poison, and they are discussing murders and poisoning of previous gurus and so on. 

The conversation was hidden and I had to go through a lot of hoops and hurdles to get it, it was being kept a secret. Why? And apart from that, on November 3, Srila Prabhupada says “my only request is, that at the last stage, don’t torture me, and put me to death.” Why was such a statement made? 

And then he said, get me out of this room, Ravana will kill me if I stay here. One gurukuli was saying he saw Bhavananda spreading white powder on Srila Prabhupada's food, and Bhavananda told that student it was special spiritual dust. Later some GBC people were looking for that gurukuli and he was getting threats. Fortunately, his dad told the GBC they would be prosecuted severely if anything happened to his kid. In other words, diabetes is not the main thing being discussed here. 

We need to keep with the main statements and documented evidence. Srila Prabhupada's chart said he would live a long time, if he could survive the next six months, but beware of juniors and subordinates. That is why he later on said "jyoti jnana," my chart knows what is happening ... problems from juniors and subordinates is not diabetes. ys pd  

Hitler-anugas Update (Mukunda UK)

 http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/12/srila-prabhupada-defeats-hitler-anugas.html

PADA: Thanks CJ for your question about the "Hitler promoting" web site of Mukunda UK (Mark Whiteley). In our opinion he and his allies are "sharing in the karma" of giving Krishna a bad name by linking Krishna to Hitler and various other highly unpopular "race baiting" agendas etc. Meanwhile! Hitler is never -- ever -- going to become popular. And it is just making the Krishna religion look silly, or dangerous.

Did we forget to mention that probably most of the people Mukunda promotes and advertises are people who eat meat -- if not hamburgers and etc.? For example he just now advertised a site (probably run by meat eaters) quoting a bunch of (probably meat eating) doctors. Mukunda was also advertising some guy who says we need to train ourselves for the apocalypse by shooting rabbits. Really?  

Anyway, according to Mukunda we share the karma of those we promote, and he is promoting all these meat eating / cow killer / Illuminati / white supremacist / meat eating apologist / rabbit shooting / speculating folks and their sites and ideas -- all the time. 

Why is Mukunda always advertising these cow chopping and chomping people -- as people we need to listen to -- even for the devotees? Unfortunately there are also other devotees sending me links to similar "karmi" web sites, which are at best speculation. And which are at worst, creating unrequired paranoid delusions, or even -- covering by smoke screen the meat eating process and its inherent evil results. 

When this all started we told Mukunda's boot lickers like Naranarayan das / Janardan / Sanat / Prahlad das (Paul Coats UK) / HKC Jaipur folks -- who were all cramming forward and promoting Mukunda's sites at the time -- that this whole Illuminati / Zionist bankers etc. program is going to create a bad impression of the Krishna religion. And Prahlad das told me -- so what, he loves Mukunda's anti-Zionism agenda because "it gets lots of hits on youtube." Umm, and so do bikini contest videos? 

And now Mukunda is discussing the importance of crop circles, which are often made by college students copying geometric designs, but he evidently thinks they are being made by aliens. In any case, just because his sites "get lots of hits" this is not something Prahlad das / HKC Jaipur ilk should be bragging about, it looks nutty and it is. However, if we look more closely at what Srila Prabhupada actually says, it does not favor these Hitler-anuga-ites. 

Srila Prabhupada: April 20 1956 BTG

The soul-killing civilization is progressively taking to the dangerous type of work by invention of huge mechanical means. The illusory energy is creating this atmosphere for blind materialism and on the other hand she is arranging for their destruction also. Such opposite methods are called illusory energy. The human energy is thus misused for breaking the same thing which is produced by the same energy. 

It is something like blazing the fire and extinguish it by pouring water simultaneously - a sign of insanity or spoiling the valuable human energy meant for spiritual culture. History has been repeated so many times and many, many leaders of materialism like Napoleon, Hitler and others now remain in name only without any sign of the material progress planned by them. 

[PADA: Yep, after WWII Communism spread to much of Eastern Europe, including half of Germany, and all over China etc. Communism got WAY worse and not better. Oddly, Mukunda thinks that this process of spreading atheism and communism to millions and millions of more people -- made things -- better? What! The result of their work remains in name only without any tangible relief. Yep!]

De-Stalinisation has already begun in Russia. Nobody is enjoying the result of civilization created by atheists like Ravana, Kansa, Aurangzeb, Napoleon or Hitler. Everything is in oblivion and this teaches us the lesson that the materialistic plans of the present age will also meet with the same fate after a lapse of 50 years Therefore blind materialism does not bring in any permanent relief in the world.

[PADA: OK while Mukunda and his pals try to paint Hitler as some sort of "doer of God's work" -- we find that Srila Prabhupada calls him a blind materialistic atheist. Their whole idea leads to oblivion. OK guess what, leading others to blind atheistic oblivion is not doing God's work. Moreover, why are they promoting blind materialistic atheists, leading us to oblivion, as a solution to the problem? They are the problem. I hope this clears up the issue! ys pd]

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Russian / Ukraine Devotees Meltdown (Update)

 

(Russia News): Ukrainian ISKCON leaders fled the temple during the first days of the war. Radha-Madhava and Gaura-Nitai are buried in the ground. This is primarily about Kyiv. Acyutapriya and other senior devotees fled Kyiv in the early days of the war. Large Deities were buried in the temple courtyard in a metal box. In general, Ukrainian devotees condemned their actions and called them cowards. The GBC will have to change local leaders or they will lose control of Ukraine, if they have not lost control already.

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The position of a Vaisnava, according to Bhakti Vijnana, is to support Ukraine, while Caitanya Candra Caran supposedly advised to be neutral and tolerate.

In short, Bhakti Vijnana (one of the Russian GBC gurus) said the following:

Vaisnavas should not take sides in political disputes, but this does not mean that they should remain neutral in matters of morality: dharma and adharma. He quoted the first canto of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, about the bull of dharma, his attitude to the situation. But Maharaja Parikshit did otherwise, as befits a ksatriya.

In general, people perceived his position as pro-Ukrainian, go fight for dharma, because he made it sound like remaining neutral is not a good option. 

After that, fighting began in the video's comments - Russian devotees against Ukrainian ones. The Ukrainians wrote that Russia is the aggressor, so it needs to be destroyed, while the Russians wrote about the attacks for 8 years in Donbass and so on. 

Then there were comments that were trying to make everything diplomatic, to please everyone. The Ukrainians were not happy with that move, and wanted clarity. The Russians wrote that everything is clear and so, each devotee should be clear in his personal choice, but this did not suit the Ukrainians. They wanted more direct confirmation of their understanding of events from their guru. 

But you can’t ask the guru like that! The Russians admonished and reproached them. Then, no one was able to clearly explain where is dharma and where is adharma. This caused a split among the Russian - speaking devotees of ISKCON. It is quite a large split, so it is not clear how they will hold festivals together in future. There will be conflicts, skirmishes, arguments, fights and so on. They will not be able to listen to lectures together, do harinama etc., because there is now a big rift of contradiction statements from these ISKCON leaders. 

Bhakti Vijnana's sincerity was undermined yet again, apparently he just wants to please the masses with a so-called neutral position, while also saying we should fight for dharma. More and more people understand this as an agreement to have devotees fight for Ukraine, and fight for supposed dharma, and are therefore upset.

Two months have already passed since the beginning of the "special operation" in Ukraine, and Bhakti Vijnana has not decided whose side he is on. At least, this may be how he looks outwardly, publicly, but when Ukrainian disciples ask Maharaja personally what to do if a devotee is drafted into the army, he replies that one must do one's duty, and for this reason, some of his disciples are already fighting on the side of Ukraine against Russia. Several of them have already died in battle, and some are engaged in the battle right now.

Then! The comments under their video reached 1,500, but were suddenly blocked and commenting posters were banned. In another video about responsibility, he did not specifically say anything about Ukraine, but made it clear that he could not get rid of his disciples who unleashed their Internet war. 

Then, they just went crazy, filled with aggression towards the Russian devotees. In essence, Bhakti Vijnana stated: "I have said what needed to be said, those who do not understand this and refuse to follow my advice are left to themselves." Meanwhile he has not said clearly what he advises, and the comments have been removed.

ISKCON GBC has now showed their vision of the spiritual world, where everyone is ready to kill each other, because one is Russian, and the other is Ukrainian, the third is Hindu, and the fourth is American or Jewish. Just imagine that suddenly all these people get into the spiritual world, which their leaders "guaranteed" to them, with their current consciousness, they simply kill each other in Vaikuntha. This means that no one will let them in there until they give up their false ego.

Caitanya Candra Caran (another of the Russian GBC gurus) spoke about karma, that it is impossible to find the true cause of any suffering and that we should just endure. He was against the performance of military duty, that we can refuse it, which contradicts the instructions of Bhakti Vijnana. He advised people to raise their consciousness, to perceive everything as the plan of the Lord and to do their work with a sense of duty and detachment. 

In other words, it is not looking good for the future unity of the Russian and Ukrainian devotees, or for ISKCON, in this region. And blocking people's comments has only made more of them angry, feeling betrayed ... and feeling that they are being ignored and marginalized, at a time they should be given clear instruction during the crisis. 

It really shows how shallow and thoughtless these leaders are. First of all, the GBC should have held a meeting long ago -- to decide what policy is going to be the unified response to the crisis, but they do not respond to any crisis properly all along. This is more evidence that ISKCON is currently in a free fall ... melt down status, with more and more parts spinning off to separate from the core. 

They already lost so many people to Sridhara, Narayana, BV Puri, Babajis, Hindus etc., so this will take more people away from their society. And they have no one to look to but themselves. 

Meanwhile the Russia House devotees have been arrested in India and it looks like even Gopal Krishna cannot get them out. So all of this exploiting of all these devotees in Russia and Ukraine is starting to come apart. They have misrepresented Krishna's message, and this is the result. 

[PADA: Some devotees wrote to chastise me for "taking the side of Ukraine." I am not on anyone's side, but I do believe that targeting civilians is wrong and is against Vedic principles. ys pd] 

Swagatham Krishna / Bhajan / VIDEO

 

Expose of Swami Vishwananda's "Bhakti Marga"

 The ‘Just Love’ cult that has no clue what love is — Vishwananda, Bhakti Marga and his spiritual crime (of making people believe he is God) | by Rainbows are better | Medium

[PADA: We posted some articles on this fellow previously, which some of his ex-followers sent me and they wanted me to post. It looks like the opposition is getting more organized. We cannot verify these statements, but generally where there is smoke there is a fire. 

Oh no! It looks like a carbon copy of a lot of the problems going on in ISKCON. Very refined cheaters, using a lot of clever tricks to stay in power. Unfortunate, this is a quality of Kali Yuga, religion becomes irreligion. Very sad state of affairs. 

The good news is, more and more people are aware of the cheating and they are being freed from these false prophets. The bad news is, many times the victims are children or very young people who have no means of defense from the regime. They are stuck there. And all of this gives Krishna, dharma, and religion in general, a black eye in the public view. 

Anyway, looks like another chapter in Yamaraja's book of false gurus, who will all have to answer to him at some stage or other. Just doing a weeding operation in my yard, finding all sorts of ants, spiders, lady bugs, worms, grubs, teeny tiny red critters, pincher bugs etc., ok these beings were at one time humans who messed up their spiritual progress, now they are here in the yard. There are warning signs everywhere about the result of not following Krishna properly, but fools rush in where angels fear to tread. True dat! ys pd]    

Help Fix His Smile (Fundme) Sridham Dasa

PADA: A lot of people keep telling me to "move on from the past." Good idea. Except that a lot of what is happening now in ISKCON is built on the foundation of its past. People are being forensically connected by the FBI to crimes that took place 35 years ago and they are being arrested now. Just because crimes took place in the past, does not mean they are not affecting things now.

Sorry, the past is what has made the present and will shape the future. One thing that people seem to fail to recognize is that abuses from ISKCON can afflict a person's entire life, and there is no easy way for them to "move on from the past." Cannot help but notice how the big leaders are often living in nice opulent facility, while their victims sometimes cannot even get their teeth fixed etc. 

And the question we keep getting all the time -- and from all quarters, includes professional writers, scholars, media people, students writing college papers etc. -- why was almost no one ever arrested and charged with all these crimes? 

Worse. It seems like a society that allowed all this to go on, and on, and on, and now rewards the leaders of that process with giant big seats and many servants, and million dollar health care, while their victims have -- no teeth? Why is that? If anyone has a good answer, let me know. ys pd 

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 https://www.gofundme.com/f/fk7sng-help-fix-his-smile?

A LIFETIME RESULT

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PADA: It also looks like the leaders of the illicit sex / child beater's messiah's program are getting their own doses of karma. This is a program that apparently has a history of beating the stuffing out of children -- and a track record of starving, beating and molesting children. They are evidently reaping their own karma, albeit gradually. And this is only the start of their bad karma ride. Wait till they get to the planet of the pedophile messiah lovers club members ... we might forget the past, but karma never does. Their karma is coming for them ... ys pd   

Founder Father of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills vaishnavas. And that is why Bhakti vikas swami worships this person as his sannyasa guru. As Sulochana says, "Birds of a feather flop together." 

India Hit With Power Blackouts

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/energy/power/eight-hour-blackouts-hit-india-after-hottest-march-since-1901/

[PADA: Wow. My friends in India said it is already scorching hot and it is not even the hottest time of year. India relies mainly on coal fired power plants, and there has been a shortage of coal. At the same time, the coal burning makes a lot of smoke and smog, which is not desired especially when it is hot, the smog just hangs in the air. 

Overall, the big plan to move in a lot of new industrial manufacturing plants to India does not seem feasible -- when there evidently won't be enough power to run these factories. It looks like India will be hobbled by their power supply problem for the near future. Devotees are already not looking forward to the heat season, as the power just gets cut off over there -- willy nilly -- without any warning. OK no air conditioning, not even a fan. Alternate power sources are possible, but will take a lot of time to develop. 

In sum, it looks like India will not suddenly overtake China by moving the manufacturing process to there, as has been the supposed "India government plan" for the future. It is just not up to the job infrastructure-wise. Of course, that is the problem all over the world with big manufacturing programs, it is very energy intensive and big power plants are needed to keep things running full tilt, to keep these operations going. All of which is polluting the planet more, which makes the climate even worse, and so on. 

In sum, making India the next big manufacturing base for the world, is just not going to happen on any big scale. At the same time, because of severe changes to the weather, water shortages, and over-dependence on artificial fertilizers, India's rural sector is in trouble as well. So trying to build on that program is also hobbled in different ways. In other words, it looks like Krishna is clamping down on India for its abandoning Vedic principles and chasing the Western lifestyle. 

I feel bad for my devotee friends over there, it looks like they are in for a rough time this summer. And India overall is in for a rough time. Krishna is not pleased, that is the sum and substance of all this. 

Srila Prabhupada said harinama samkirtana would help bring back rain and helpful weather. Yet that was the first thing the GBC did, they kicked out almost all the samkirtana devotees and made the common people ask "what ever happened to the Hare Krishnas (and their kirtan)". As one devotee just said, they made the harinama samkirtana movement nearly disappear, in the name of expanding the harinama samkirtana movement. ys pd  

What Happened to ISKCON's Householder Managers? (by ND)

ND: Srila Prabhupada’s idea for the GBC as told originally to Syamasundar Das (who was his personal servant and sometimes privileged confidant) was at that time and forever more, that the world would be divided into 12 zones and each of these zones would be managed by HOUSEHOLDERS or devotees with BUSINESS EXPERIENCE. So he wanted the householders, and / or qualified managers, businessmen to run his society and manage all the business affairs and the SANNYASIS should be FREE from managing responsibilities and ROAM from ZONE to ZONE, wherever their feet would take them and PREACH. PERIOD. 

Now those two functions have gotten intermixed and DILUTED. Shyamasundar knows Srila Prabhupada’s original intent because Srila Prabhupada told him His idea first, and it was NOT to change- that was it. And He even sent a letter out to the 12 GBC men and said, “This shall be a democracy, and if there are matters that affect the whole society, you should all vote and the unanimous vote will hold. And if there’s a deadlock, I will throw the remaining vote. But only if it’s an egregious error." It’s in the Vedabase, the original letter. 

SO.. why is this not followed? Is it because the big sannyasis think that only they are qualified to manage the society? Imagine a society run by qualified managers who are family men and women. Do you think they would mismanage the child abuse issue as badly as the current GBC do? 

Imagine a society where ALL the sannyasis actually go from temple to temple and inspire with their actions rather than cheap words. I could go on and on about how many of the current sannyasi gurus are living plush lives and act like it's normal while they wrap themselves with Srila Prabhupada's image to lend legitimacy to their positions. That's not normal, it's sickening. They're not supposed to live like Ksatriyas or the administrator class. 

They're supposed to be Brahmanas, the teacher class, bringing out the light of sastra through their ACTIONS and words. How are we 2nd and 3rd and 4th generations supposed to fulfill Srila Prabhupada's vision when His own senior disciples aren't investing the time, energy, actions and words in training the successive generations on the right way of conducting affairs when they don't even have the decency to follow their own spiritual master's instructions. 

I sense that us 2nd generation devotees will have to wait until they die off one by one before we can effect badly needed changes. There needs to be a Maximus that gives Rome back to its people and isn't interested in becoming emperor. Long live Srila Prabhupada!

[PADA: Yep, I keep hearing that. The criminal usurper GBCs will never give up their stolen booty, that means, they have to die to have the stolen property wrenched out of their dead fingers. Why do people keep saying that? 

And this is correct, if householders and especially mothers were involved with the schools, all this molesting would not have happened. And that is why Bhakti Vikas swami keeps saying the women need to shut up, and we need to listen to his pedophile messiah's club leaders like Basu ghosh, so he can keep his pedophile messiah's project afloat. Well, they just have to all die evidently, they cannot be corrected. Agreed. The good news is, every day another person realizes what has been going on here ... ys pd]

April 2022

"Dear Sivarama swami,

Please accept my obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I am writing to you today about the very important topic of protecting Vaishnava children in our ISKCON society.

Your disciple Gaurangi (Pia) said that in 2009 you were supportive to her and her husband when they found out their daughter was molested. You told them to be brave because this is going to be heavy. You told them that when their daughter is older they will want to be able to tell her they did everything they could to make it right.

I appreciate that you did this. We have child protection policies in ISKCON and they should be followed.

I was surprised then to learn just two years after encouraging your disciple to seek accountability for the man who sexually abused her daughter, that you wrote a letter of support for another child molester, Lokanath.
Lokanath had promised the GBC members in 2010 that he would step down as a guru, after his victim made public compelling statements, including:

“I hated him when I had to see him in public. And to see that this was his punishment? Being given articles to write in BTG, being given accolades as a guru, getting all the priveledges of a sannyasi-- this was what his punishment was??” https://lokanath.net/satyas-statements-july-2010

The next year, at the 2011 GBC Meeting, Lokanath made a presentation telling the GBC members that he changed his mind about stepping down as guru, and asked if he could remain a guru, despite sexually abusing a child. As part of Lokanath’s presentation, letters of support were read for him, including one from you. https://lokanath.net/appendix-g-gbc-meeting-minutes...

ISKCON leaders reviewed Lokanath’s child molestation case and consulted with outside counsel Attorney Justin Starr, who said, "In your shoes, our primary concern would be the fact that this situation increases the future risk of liability if ISKCON does not handle it properly." https://lokanath.net/appendix-x-letter-from-attorney...

My question is - will you be brave now, and ask the GBC to follow their child protection policies for Lokanath? As you said, this will get heavy, but you must be brave so you can tell your disciples that you did everything you could to make it right, for the safety of children in ISKCON.
Thank you.
Your servant,
S dasi"

Prayers for Madi Brinkman (Prithu's Son)

https://madidas.bandcamp.com/track/hey-gopinath?

[PADA: Recently PADA has been talking to more and more writer / historian type folks who are always asking me, what they heck happened to ISKCON? Same question all the time! And yup, more professional "historical accounts" are in the works. 

Did I forget to mention, Lord Yamaraja has a detailed accounting of this already in hand. And the people who already left (or who are leaving soon) OK such as: Hansadutta, Bhakti Caru swami, Gaura Govinda Maharaja, Bhakti Tirtha swami, Tamal Krishna swami, Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja et al. have already found themselves having to explain their support for their pedophile messiahs club cult to Yamaraja, with no success. 

Lord Yamaraja is not interested in any of their foolish BS and bogus excuses that they try to foist off to him over on his planet. Pedophile messiah's club members have to go to the darkest depths of the lowest and most obnoxious regions in the universe. Full stop.   

Yep, even ordinary historians and writers find it amazing that such a "peace and love" religion could become such a toxic brew of: scandalous illicit sex and drugs gurus, crimes, child molesting, murders and so on. Just hard for almost anyone to comprehend how it all came to this state, and so quickly. 

We also went over the poison issue with some folks recently -- and the overall smash and grab takeover of the assets by a few elite leaders, so they could hi-jack ISKCON and make their personal pedophile's guru cult out of the ISKCON society.

I have also discussed with some of these historians -- how this has impacted the citizens -- and was talking with some of them recently about the apparent "cancer epidemic" among ISKCON's citizenry. Yep, makes a lot of sense. People who were joining -- what they thought was -- a peace and love religion -- would have a major shock to their system -- to find out they have been part of a bogus and criminal cult. That might harm their mental or even physical health.

And many of the children of ISKCON were just thrust into the situation by dint of being born in the scene of the crime / arena of all these smash and grab criminals. They really did not have much of a say in these goings on, they just had to deal with the mess they were handed.   

And thus -- many of the ex-children ended up rejecting the religion, if not being enemies of the religion. Around here most of them boycott the society wholesale, and some of them eat meat etc. as a sort of protest against their "spiritual upbringing." OK something really went badly off for them. And a number of them therefore had problems with drug use, loose sexual activity, partying, and no small amount of -- trauma, PTSD, despair, dejection and depression. And considering how the children were treated as a group, these results are quite understandable. 

A few of them have tried to make some sort of alignment / alliance with the regime, but it seems it is always an uneasy alliance. It is hard for any of these second generation / ex-children type people to just ignore all the troubles they and / or their peers endured under the regime's jack boots. 

Madi Brinkman helped make a video called "Burnt Laddus," about the abused children. Interesting title because, a burnt laddu cannot ever be recovered really. It always has the same smokey burnt taste to it no matter what. I was myself multi-tasking in the kitchen once -- and forgot to stir the sweet rice, yep burnt to a crisp on the bottom. Whole thing was burnt beyond repair and ruined. Could not recover from that. Burnt items are very hard to recover in any situation. 

In other words, the abuse and molesting has had a long time / long term effect on many of the ex-youth, and a burnt laddu is somewhat of an interesting parallel example. Now some of these burnt laddus committed suicide, and many of them have other symptoms of traumatic stress. OK one of the symptoms of traumatic stress is -- people can get ill. Maybe very ill. Maybe develop-- cancer? 

We believe, yes, an illness CAN result and CAN BE be one of the manifestations of all this trauma, and in fact fatal illness -- is a recurring manifestation among various ISKCON youth and elders alike. Now Madi's mom Rambhouru is making some sort of therapy group for these victims. Fine. 

But to get to the root of this or any other trauma, it needs to be understood threadbare. That means we need to have people understand what happened, how it happened, and who made it happen. It seems Rambhoru's process is incomplete. In fact, it would seem Madi has not fully grasped all this himself. And it would thus seem these insufficient "therapy" cures for the trauma are not fully releasing it, causing many side effect problems for the victims to continue -- including fatal ailments. 

We need to look at this threadbare: 

Did the GBC as a group coerce and force children to worship pedophiles and deviants as their gurus? Yes.

Did the GBC as a group siphon off money meant to go to care for the children, leaving a number of these children sometimes with no basic supplies such as medicine, soap, blankets and food? Yes.   

Did the GBC as a group empower child abusers, molesters and even child beaters to be in charge of various children. Yes.

Has the GBC as a group ever removed any of the people in charge of the molester messiahs' project like Jayapataka, Lokanath swami et al.? Nope! 

OK these are just a few samples of the type of issues that need to be raised and resolved, and they just aren't in most cases. Therefore, the trauma continues, and the fatal ailments continue, or sometimes the fatal suicides happen from time to time. Worse, the Rambhouru program is still promoting not only the founder fathers of the pedophile pooja program like Jayapataka et al., -- their program even promotes known child molesters as gurus now. 

See what we mean here:

Alachua Florida's Pedophile Messiah Lover's Club of Mukhya DD. "We want all our children to have a nice child molester's messiah's club guru program." And then we wonder, why some of them -- get cancer? 

Therefore, in the opinion of PADA, a full house cleaning is required to address all this and remove the traumas from folks, by letting them see where the trauma has been coming from, and thus how to flush it out. If they never understood the source of the trauma, then they cannot remove it. 

Anyway I wish Madi well and hope for the best. He is a victim in our opinion, and he deserves help to get free of all this baggage which, evidently, is weighing down on him in different ways, and weighing down numbers of others who are also getting cancer and other similar fatal ailments -- happening all too often -- in this society. ys pd

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PADA: Yep prabhu. The problem in ISKCON has been -- too many folks were too busy "doing service" to notice that the citizens in their society, including the society's children, were in trouble. Hundreds of times people told me "chant your rounds, Krishna will sort all this out." 

OK so we are chanting our rounds asking Krishna to engage us in His service, and when the service is -- to advocate for the society's abused children, we should avoid that service? And when their idea of "avoiding the controversy" process is compounded into thousands of acquiescing people, who are often too busy making flower garlands for the leaders (the people orchestrating all the troubles) then what happens? 

So now we have a few people ringing the village fire alarm, and they are supposedly over compensating. Well fine, but they had to over compensate because most of the other villagers were sitting around watching the fire burn down most of the rest of the village. 

So this is why I really personally don't care too much about my critics, or critics of others who are promoting child protection. Unless everyone is on the same page, i.e. we cannot have our children worshiping predators and deviants, we cannot have our children being abused and mistreated -- and we cannot then glorify the people orchestrating that odious process as gurus, then -- there is not much use trying to build much of anything else from there. 

Everyone has to agree to point "a" ... then move on to point "b" later on. The temples are mostly empty for a reason. The "real point" has been missed, and in many cases, it still is. What I said in the beginning is becoming true, "we become what we worship." If we worship predators and abusers, we will have a society that is infused with, sympathizes with, apologizes for, and enables abusers, and a society that still gives abusers -- or their enablers -- high posts of authority. Unless that fire is put out, the village will continue to burn. ys pd