Saturday, November 27, 2021

Kurt Mausert (Kirtan Rasa Dasa) VS PADA

PADA: We already answered Kurt Mausert (Kirtan Rasa Dasa / KRD) previously and apparently he has withdrawn from the conversation. That being said, if there are any corrections or additions he would like us to make herein, we are ready to see what they are and we will correct things -- if they are proven inaccurate. 

KRD did say something to the effect that Satsvarupa (SDG) did not know what was going on, which is not what various people from his zone told me. Never mind me and Sulochana personally sent messages to SDG, which he acknowledged receiving. SDG said he was aware of our messages, so evidently -- he did know what was going on because we reported that to him.

SDG was also writing all sorts of post-1980 position papers for the GBC, and that means he was giving all sorts of arguments to defend their regime. Not sure how SDG would "not know" how so many thousands of people were totally burnt out from their regime -- when he was their superstar writing promoter?

However, in addition to our original points, it seems Satsvarupa has also been part of the overall ISKCON breaking up marriages problem, which has been making the children of those marriages vulnerable to exploiting, as happened. Arjuna tells Krishna that the persons who destroy the family system dwell always in hell, and the reasons why -- should be self explanatory. And SDG has been supporting Kirtanananda, where marriage breaking was going on regularly, according to all sorts of people -- including Sulochana, whose marriage was broke up by their regime.

And Srila Prabhupada says when a "guru" has sex with a follower, it is the same as a father having sex with his own daughter. In sum, it is considered as a form of pedophilia. And SDG was apparently having some sort of affair -- and he wrote some crazy book called "Sanatorium" about a person having an affair with his therapist, which seems to be an auto-biography? The husband of the female victim of the affair also says SDG broke up their marriage intentionally, so we do have some eye-witness confirmation on this point.

Of course SDG's whole guru empire evidently contains persons having illicit sex with men, women and children, and maybe cats. And SDG has been a pillar supporter of that system. And to date, Satsvarupa Das Goswami (SDG) has never wrote me any apology for calling our writings "poison pens," which added considerable fuel to aid the molesting process and which was designed to suppress us, and we were suppressed, even violently suppressed. 

Satsvarupa wrote many of the early GBC "position papers" starting in 1978, including their horrendous 1980 paper "The Mahajanas Have Difficulties." Sulochana said SDG is "The Joseph Goebbels of ISKCON" (their main policy writer). And SDG went on writing for them for years and years, including writing all sorts of glorification of Kirtanananda -- at the height of all the fanatical process going on in New Vrndavana.

SDG has wrote all sorts of crazy stuff all along. He says he is "the guru of pills." He says he has constant migraine headaches (which is what happens when we become pure devotees)? He was writing about "the colors of the gopis saris," and then a few pages later about his enemas, which even BV Puri said is "worse than any sahajiyas. Even sahajiyas do not write about their passing stools and the gopis in the same book." 

SDG says when he attends the GBC meetings all their yelling and arguing gives him a headache. Wow, so when we get to associate with pure devotees, they will be arguing like cats and dogs -- and giving us a headache! I think SDG is mixing barking dogs with pure devotees? He never explains ANY of this. Or where does he? 

"I associated with the other pure devotees of God, which is why, I have a migraine headache from all their yelling and arguing"! Of course SDG also writes "The more I chant, the drier it gets." What an advert for chanting the name of God!

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PADA editor already dealt with these issues previously, and KR Dasa needs to rebut them point for point: -- 

The lady in charge of SDG's school said SDG was specifically told about the abuse and he specifically did not want the police involved. And SDG told everyone involved not to report the abuse to the police. 

And she said the abuser had moved into SDG's zone from another zone, where he was already abusing over there. Then the abuser just moved on, with evidently no police report or warning to the next zone he would go to. So they were facilitating the movement of abusers. Or what happened here?

SDG also told a father he would specifically keep an eye on his children -- so they would not be abused. That means SDG knew about the abuse problem. Instead SDG was reported to be holed up in Howard Johnson's Motel watching football, which SDG himself said he was doing, watching football. That means he was not watching the kids he had specifically promised he would watch. Again, SDG did say he was aware there is a molesting problem, so he evidently cannot argue "I did not know." Or what?

SDG also said we are "poison pens" when we were writing about the abuse problem in our newsletters. Sulochana said SDG has been "painting a bull's eye on our backs." So SDG reported that he got our newsletters, that means he was aware that we were exposing these issues. 

SDG was also glorifying Kirtanananda -- at the same time KS was sitting on a big seat covered with the hands of maybe 20 boys, and which the CBS news lady told me is -- "pedophile heaven." Sorry, SDG was made aware of these issues by a number of people, including those of us writing to these leaders. Apart from that Kirtanananda was seated on a big gold throne while covered with the hands of many boys in public. Everyone could see that, this was all done in open public, including CBS news filmed this type thing. Or what? 

And because we were writing to SDG, he called us poison pens, that means he was well aware of our complaints. 

When all this went to court, I was there in Texas, they were a "no show." They did not come, they just had their lawyers come in and submit "no contest." They could not face off with me in court. This is not guilt by association, this is a person who said those of us reporting the abuse are "poison pens," so he could demonize us and suppress our complaint, and Sulochana was suppressed -- fatally. I would have been too, except the FBI was tapping their phones and they caught the people coming to get me before they got to me. 

I humbly ask Kirtan Rasa Dasa to find factual flaws in our statements and correct them as required. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com


While Krishna's devotees are being banned, beaten, 
molested, sued 
and assassinated,
I am making whack job art.
Any questions?

Patita Pavana (Uddharan): Gold, Guns and God

PP Das: Unless ISKCON can follow its own guidelines, no intelligent person will want to join in. Who can blame them?

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S DASA: If Lokanath swami (LNS) were actually spiritually reformed, then he would have stepped down long ago, seeing the distress, chaos, and shame to the movement that he is causing.

Some argue (I certainly don't) that his crime was long ago and not since, and he's repented and so bygones should be bygones. I maintain, rather, that he has been a continual offender ever since (knowingly or unknowingly, but either is a disqualification).

1. LNS has never stopped harming his original victim: His essentially nonstop acceptance of worship is a continuation of the same, original message he sends to his victim: "I can do whatever I want, and because of my position, no one will believe you and no one will stop me."

2. LNS has ever since harmed his spiritual master's Society:

His insistence in remaining in his role is harming ISKCON's reputation, is a continual disturbance to the minds of those who love ISKCON, and is responsible for an ongoing terrible division between the Indian yatras and the others.

3. He is putting at great risk the faith of more and more disciples who, once the whole story is inevitably known or ISKCON is forced by internal and external pressures to act, may have their lives shattered.

Whether LNS is oblivious to his continued harming of his victim, and ISKCON, and his disciples, or he feels that on balance he's more asset than liability, or his heart is unclean I'm not judging. What we can say, though, is that his ongoing decision to not step by down from his position but to continue harming his victim and the Society is itself justification for his removal.

--S dasa

[PADA: The India ICC Yatra already supports -- burying pedophiles in samadhis, burying porno swamis in samadhis, and even more samadhis for the folks "voted in" to their -- "oral sex with taxi driver's guru parampara" etc. Of course they also want your kids to worship their apparent sex with cats acharya in a samadhi. 

I am not sure if there is any deviation known to man that is not included in the India ICC's "guru parampara from Vaikuntha." They are already separate from ISKCON, because ISKCON worships pure devotees and they are against anyone who does that. In sum, we are glad that the India ISKCON ICC wants to be separate, take your illicit sex with men, women and children (and cats?) guru parampara somewhere else! ys pd] 


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Patita Pavana Dasa: Gold, Guns and God:

Swami Bhaktipada and the West Virginia Hare Krishnas:

Vol. 4: Deviations in the Dhama

The fight against the abuse of the most innocent devotees is being spear - headed by Saraswati Mataji. I have mentioned here in my posts the books of Hare Krishna historian Henry Doktorski, who is dedicating a projected ten volumes to exposing the sordid legacy left behind by K. Swami. 

Doktorski's latest work (Vol. 4) specifically deals with the tragedy of how women and children were treated in NV under K. Swami.

Doktorski's series about the corruption of admitted child molester Kirtanananda Swam is well-researched, and air tight. In fact, the author Hrishikesha Dasa (aka Henry Doktorski) kindly accepted a Foreword from me for Volume 2 of this series. I wrote it because I believe in his work which runs the gamut by dealing with the good, the bad and the ugly.

Originally, Doktorski was a sold-out devotee of K. Swami. Apart from being a skilled writer, Doktorski is a genius musician who conducted the Krishna chorale at New Vrindavana.

When K. Swami's perversions came to light, the love many felt for him turned to disgust. Had K.Swami behaved himself as per his duties as a Gaudiya sannyasi, this extensive set of well-researched volumes that Doktorski has written and continues to write would have been brimming with loving praise. But he--and all other devotees who trusted K. Swami--became disheartened with K. Swami's monstrous abuse of children and his natural disregard for women. 

So instead if some Kirtanananda Samhita full of glorious praise for the guru of New Vrindavana, the result is what is you see here. The truth is not always pretty, but the time to sweep such deviations under the rug by "leaders" has long past.

Any ISKCON guru who allows himself to fall into deplorable behavior towards the most innocent among us can expect a similar result. Because Doktorski's well-researched series sticks to the truth of the matter without any deviations or motivations (such as revenge or sensationalism) it is clear that he is simply doing what Prabhupada ordered his followers to do: "speak the truth even when it is socially unpalatable"---just as you have seen here on this page.

Persons in the elevated post of spiritual leadership should see the result of deviations from the sampradaya. Any one with an iota of common sense will consider what sort of literary legacy will arise behind them, once their game is finished.This volume, incidentally is currently NUMBER ONE in Amazon Hot New Releases in History of Hinduism.

[PADA: However after Kirtanananda got whacked over the head with a pipe, Patitta Pavana came to the Berkeley temple to have us pray for Kirtanananda's rapid recovery and return to his guru position. We cannot simultaneously pray to have pedophiles "quickly return back" to the Vyasa seat, and get rid of them, at the same time. Patita Pavana also supports Bhakti Vikas swami, one of the biggest current supporters of Basu Ghosh / Lokanath swami. Patita Pavana has never left the pedophile's guru program, he is still their cheer leader now. ys pd]

Friday, November 26, 2021

The Problem And The Cure (Vedic SP Quotes)



Srila Prabhupada explains the problem -- and the cure. ys pd


(Srimad Bhagavatam prospective) - Only 1/4 th of the one's life should given for Family Life

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THE PROBLEM:

Those who are interested only in a so-called dutiful life — namely remaining as a householder entangled by sons and a wife and searching after wealth — think that such things are life’s ultimate goal. Such people simply wander in different types of bodies throughout this material existence without finding out the ultimate goal of life. sb 4.25.6

Even though one may be very learned and wise, he is mad if he does not understand that the endeavor for sense gratification is a useless waste of time. Being forgetful of his own interest, he tries to be happy in the material world, centering his interests around his home, which is based on sexual intercourse and which brings him all kinds of material miseries. In this way one is no better than a foolish animal. sb 5.5.7

The attraction between male and female is the basic principle of material existence. On the basis of this misconception, which ties together the hearts of the male and female, one becomes attracted to his body, home, property, children, relatives and wealth. In this way one increases life’s illusions and thinks in terms of “I and mine.” sb 5.5.8

Thus, because of his foolish mentality, a householder whose heart is overwhelmed by family attachment is never satisfied. Constantly meditating on his relatives, he dies and enters into the darkness of ignorance. sb 11.17.58

Sex life is compared to the rubbing of two hands to relieve an itch. Gṛhamedhis, so-called gṛhasthas who have no spiritual knowledge, think that this itching is the greatest platform of happiness, although actually it is a source of distress. The kṛpaṇas, the fools who are just the opposite of brāhmaṇas, are not satisfied by repeated sensuous enjoyment. Those who are dhīra, however, who are sober and who tolerate this itching, are not subjected to the sufferings of fools and rascals.
sb 7.9.45

The doors of liberation are opened wide to one who has achieved human life. But if a human being simply devotes himself to family life like the foolish bird in this story, then he is to be considered as one who has climbed to a high place only to trip and fall down. sb 11.7.74

Śrī Prabuddha said: Accepting the roles of male and female in human society, the conditioned souls unite in sexual relationships. Thus they constantly make material endeavors to eliminate their unhappiness and unlimitedly increase their pleasure. But one should see that they inevitably achieve exactly the opposite result. In other words, their happiness inevitably vanishes, and as they grow older their material discomfort increases. sb 11.3.18

My dear Lord Kṛṣṇa, until people become Your devotees, their material attachments and desires remain thieves, their homes remain prisons, and their affectionate feelings for their family members remain foot-shackles.
sb 10.14.36

Just as a monkey jumps from one tree to another, the conditioned soul jumps from one body to another. As the monkey is ultimately captured by the hunter and is unable to get out of captivity, the conditioned soul, being captivated by momentary sex pleasure, becomes attached to different types of bodies and is encaged in family life. Family life affords the conditioned soul a festival of momentary sex pleasure, and thus he is completely unable to get out of the material clutches. sb 5.14.32

The attached householder remains in his family life, which is full of diplomacy and politics. Always spreading miseries and controlled by acts of sense gratification, he acts just to counteract the reactions of all his miseries, and if he can successfully counteract such miseries, he thinks that he is happy. sb 3.30.9

THE CURE:

The process of chanting the holy name of the Lord is so powerful that by this chanting even householders [gṛhasthas] can very easily gain the ultimate result achieved by persons in the renounced order. Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, I have now explained to you that process of religion. sb 7.15.74

Nārada Muni replied: My dear King, those who stay at home as householders must act to earn their livelihood, and instead of trying to enjoy the results of their work themselves, they should offer these results to Kṛṣṇa, Vāsudeva. How to satisfy Vāsudeva in this life can be perfectly understood through the association of great devotees of the Lord. 

A gṛhastha must associate again and again with saintly persons, and with great respect he must hear the nectar of the activities of the Supreme Lord and His incarnations as these activities are described in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and other Purāṇas. Thus one should gradually become detached from affection for his wife and children, exactly like a man awakening from a dream. 7.14.2/3/4

Those who are engaged in auspicious activities in devotional service certainly understand that the ultimate enjoyer or beneficiary of all activities is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Thus when one acts, he offers the results to the Supreme Personality of Godhead and passes life always engaged in the topics of the Lord. Even though such a person may be participating in family life, he is not affected by the results of his actions. Srimad Bhagavatam 4.30.19

Those who, even while remaining situated in their established social positions, throw away the process of speculative knowledge and with their body, words and mind offer all respects to descriptions of Your personality and activities, dedicating their lives to these narrations, which are vibrated by You personally and by Your pure devotees, certainly conquer Your Lordship, although You are otherwise unconquerable by anyone within the three worlds. SB 10.14.3

Prahlāda Mahārāja replied: O best of the asuras, King of the demons, as far as I have learned from my spiritual master, any person who has accepted a temporary body and temporary household life is certainly embarrassed by anxiety because of having fallen in a dark well where there is no water but only suffering. One should give up this position and go to the forest [vana]. More clearly, one should go to Vṛndāvana, where only Kṛṣṇa consciousness is prevalent, and should thus take shelter of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. sb 7.5.5

My dear Lord, we pray that we may never feel attraction for the prison of family life, consisting of home, wife, children, friends, bank balance, relatives and so on. If we do have some attachment, let it be for devotees, whose only dear friend is Kṛṣṇa. A person who is actually self-realized and who has controlled his mind is perfectly satisfied with the bare necessities of life. He does not try to gratify his senses. Such a person quickly advances in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, whereas others, who are too attached to material things, find advancement very difficult. Sb 5.18.10

Jaya Radha Madhava (SP Kirtan VIDEO)

 


"Kṛṣṇa is within you. He is sitting within your heart as a friend, not as an enemy. Kṛṣṇa is always your friend. Suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānām (BG 5.29). You are searching out friends to talk with, to joke with, to love. Kṛṣṇa is sitting there for that purpose. If you love Kṛṣṇa, if you make friendship with Kṛṣṇa, then your life will be successful. You haven't got to search out any other friend. The friend is already there. Either you are a boy or a girl, you will find a nice friend within yourself. That is yoga system, when you realize this friend. So this friend is so nice, as soon as you become little inclined to hear about Him, śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ—about Kṛṣṇa, not any other nonsense talks, simply about Kṛṣṇa—then Kṛṣṇa will be so pleased."

- Srila Prabhupada Lecture, New Vrindaban, June 7, 1969

Thursday, November 25, 2021

Billie Eilish Wants Turkey-less Thanksgiving

 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/billie-eilish-asks-followers-reconsider-153923279.html?

[PADA: Yep, someone told me these famous people are having more beneficial impact on society than all the Krishna devotees put together. OK, these famous folks might have more impact at stopping people from killing animals -- than us. Could be true. In any case, good job, let us save the animals from suffering and dying. ys pd] 

Jehovah's Witness VS ISKCON

PADA: I really cannot validate all the facts of this video. 

However, if true, many child molesting cases were reported to the elders, but not reported to the authorities. And this also self evidently happened in ISKCON. And ISKCON's "elders" are burying pedophiles in "samadhi" grave sites, and making one of their molesters -- their current messiah. Is there a pattern of bad leadership here? Were we all not warned about false prophets, in the Christian religion -- and ISKCON? 

"Many of the followers are psychologically vulnerable people who have a vested interest in continuing the system." Ya think so? ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com

Wednesday, November 24, 2021

Devotee Marriage Matching Group

 https://www.facebook.com/groups/222942711217638/

PADA: Over the years various men and women have asked me to help them find a spouse, even recently. Well I really don't have the resources for that. I'd like to help, at the same time I worry my potential help might end up making a bad match and then I'd be blamed for giving bad marital advice (which has already happened with some "astrologers" being sued for making bad matches). 

Anyway, someone wanted to have me advertise this group, and see if that helps anyone else. I don't know if this site is going to be helpful or not, but if anyone has some good reviews or other comments they can send me a report. 

Seems to me the first problem is -- so many devotees are divided into various guru camps, it would be a big challenge just to find someone with compatible guru tattva, never mind other issues. In any case, good luck if you are looking for a compatible spouse. You'll need lots of it to find the right situation. Sorry! You'll have to do your own homework here, hee hee. ys pd 

angel108b@yahoo.com   

Question from Tucson About ISKCON


ISKCON Tucson's Pedophile
"Guru successor to Jesus and God"



Tucson leader? https://www.jivanandadas.org/?

PADA: Got a nice question from an intelligent young resident of Tucson Arizona! 

Thanks very much for your questions about ISKCON Tucson. "Are they followers of the ISKCON Leadership -- or are they independent -- as they seem to claim on their Web site? And are they promoting the same false gurus you are exposing on your site"? 

Well it did not take me more than a few minutes of research to find out they are being promoted alongside the GBC's "illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara," that also contains pedophiles, criminals, drug addicts, deviants and orchestrators of murders. Basically the Tucson program seems to be -- at least self evidently -- to find a nice "living guru" member of the pedophile messiah's club for their children to worship. 

And the same ilk crowd also tells me -- we cannot worship Jesus, because that is the bogus Christian ritvik idea. So we have to worship pedophiles, not Jesus, and these ilk folks have told me that for decades. 

And their pedophile worship policy is pretty much rigorously enforced. We call them "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of pedophiles and deviants as messiahs project." And yes, people who oppose their pedophile worship process are often banned, sometimes beaten or assassinated.     

And of course -- the worship of pure devotees like Srila Prabhupada (and / or Jesus) is strictly forbidden by these folks as even recently Lokanath swami said that the ritviks idea (that we should worship pure devotees and not pedophiles) is a deviation. Yep, we need to worship -- "little children inappropriate touching" -- deviants in order to attain God. Of course this was never taught by God / Krishna. Rather, Krishna says worship of false gurus will send the false gurus and followers of that whole program to the worst of hells. 

And as soon as these ilk find a guy who is having oral sex with boys in his motorhome, and he is orchestrating banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating God's devotees, then these ilk people fall off their chairs and think they have found Jesus reincarnated! Then they bury that deviant in a samadhi -- so they can have more children worship that pedophile in perpetuity. I believe they will bury the above pedophile (Lokanath swami) also in a samadhi, next to other deviants such as their porno watching swami samadhi project. 

In sum, they want us to worship their current living pedophile messiahs, and when their pedophile messiahs leave their bodies, then they have their pedophile messiahs placed into samadhis so that they can have children worship dead pedophiles. Basically their whole program -- self evidently at least -- centers on establishing the worship of pedophiles as God and Jesus' successors. 

One question I keep getting here all the time from all sorts of people is -- what kind of "samadhi" is "pedophile samadhi"? No one seems to have any idea what this means? Where does Krishna mention that pedophiles are His pure devotees in -- samadhi? No one seems to be able to find -- where Krishna ever says this? OK they made it all up, it is a concoction. 

Even any Joe Six Pack walking down the street knows -- pedophiles are not in Godly consciousness samadhi, they are criminals. And if these pedophiles were in prison, they would being treated badly by other prisoners -- because none of the prisoners think pedophiles are in samadhi. In other words, even prisoners have a better idea of who are God's successors than these ISKCON Tucson folks, evidently at least.

Unless I am somehow wrong? But I see no evidence I am wrong. So I think it is safe to assume the ISKCON Tucson program is establishing the worship of illicit sex with men, women, and children, and homosexuals, and pedophiles, and criminals, and debauchees, and deviants, as God's and Jesus' "guru successors" "in samadhi" etc. 

We have said all along there is no evidence that Krishna wants people to worship deviants and debauchees as His guru successors, and yes, none of these people from Tucson ISKCON has ever challenged me on any of this, ever. In fact, we find their program is even now advertising one of their pedophile messiahs:




Apparently related to Tucson ISKCON: 

Suresvara Dasa

Suresvara Dasa joined the Hare Krishna movement in July 1970. He received 1st & 2nd initiations by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada in 1971 and 1972 while serving in New Vrindaban. In 2011, while teaching at the Mayapur Institute, Suresvara’s concern over how distant many younger devotees were from Srila Prabhupada reached a tipping point, so that spring he conceived and began researching a seminar series he would call “Srila Prabhupada, Our Founder-Acarya.” In 2014, at the request of senior godbrothers, Suresvara accepted the service of initiating spiritual master.

[PADA: Young devotees not participating? No kidding, the Tucson ilk's molester messiah's program orchestrated mass child molesting -- evidently -- to several thousand ISKCON children. And the ex-kids ran away from the GBC's pedophile guru's program as fast as they could -- once they became adults. Why would these ex-children want to worship a pedophile guru process, after they were abused themselves by the same process? And why would they want their own children to participate in a pedophile worship process?]  

Sandapani Dasi

[PADA: Seems to be a puppet of the pedophile messiah's puppet masters? 

To sum up then! No, I see no evidence that ISKCON Tucson is "independent" of the policy of "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals, pedophiles and debauchees as messiahs" process, because they are being advertised with pillar members of that process. 

ys pd]  angel108b@yahoo.com




Monday, November 22, 2021

India's Tycoon Ambani Targets Mom-and-pop Stores

 https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/princes-paupers-indias-salesmen-face-015938510.html

PADA: It was only a question of time before some big tycoon and his mega-business in India started to encroach on the little guy shop keepers in India, just like Amazon is taking down the little independent shops in the USA. Unfortunately, this will upset the economy of many "little guys" and their independent shops. 

I was at the San Francisco Flea Market the other day and happened to pass by some poor guy there -- who was selling used videos and video games. People were coming over to his stall and scanning his pieces on their cell phones to see what is the price at Amazon, and the guy was pleading "I cannot compete with Amazon." 

This all seems to be heading towards making the elite few rich folks -- become more and more rich, and the poor folks become poorer and poorer and out of a job, and then there will be massive unemployed -- as Srila Prabhupada predicted. It looks like India is going more and more in the direction of mega-businesses managed by cell phone and computerized tech, instead of its traditional simple living and rural lifestyle. It is another sign of encroaching Kali yuga-ism.

ys pd   

Patita Pavana Das Writes Lokanath Swami (ISKCON)

Letter to a very junior Godbrother:

My dear friend Lokanath, Let me speak without formalities as your elder. First of all, one should avoid comparing oneself to the great Tukarama Maharaja. Shripada Tukarama ji never molested a child or begged to become Guru after an arbitrary suspension.

In the Ramayana, did Vishwamitra go before a panel and beg that they overlook his infidelity with Menaka? Or did he perform penance? Why is that only for him--are you greater than the great Munis like Vishwamitra? Where is your tapasya, rather than the sad legacy you have left that tells a far different story.

So now it is best that you PERFORM THE ONLY EFFECTIVE PENANCE -- AND THAT IS OBEDIENCE TO THE ORDER OF SHRI GURU. And, in your case, Prabhupada had ordered you over and over again to ride the bullock cart, instead of the other form of b.s. that you have swallowed thanks to impersonalism. And such awful symptoms of Mayavada including disobedience to the order ot Shri Guru will only create a voluminous series of books like the ones Henry Doktorski (Killing for Krishna) has written to expose ISKCON's corruption.

Remember Reagan said to Mondale, "You're no Kennedy." And we can add to that "You're no Tukaram," either, buddy.

So you have only a precious few seconds left before the curtain comes crashing down on your show. Everything has been recorded and is in the hands of Shri Chitra-Gupta, the secretary in the Akash to Dharmaraja himself.

The King of the Dead Yama is known as Dharmaraja because his concern--as one of the 12 Mahajanas--is how faithful to the order of the Sampradaya you were in your checkered career, as an officiator on behalf of the church or "institutional Guru."

[PADA: Correct, the neophytes are officiating on behalf of the acharya. This is also sometimes known as the "ritvik system" where the neophytes act as agents (or laymen, preachers or priests) of the acharya, and they do not claim to be acharyas themselves.]

Institution is only meant for recharging of batteries, not for lingering with a pink bonnet. When did Tukaram wear such a ridiculous bonnet?

Lokanatha, this is your very elder Gurubhai Patita pavana dasa Adhikary telling you for your own damn good -- get back. Get back to where you once belonged. Get back into the cart as you are presently leading thousands of gullible souls someplace other than pure Krishna consciousness. Wake up and get on the right path once and for all as per Prabhupada's orders to you. 

Once you are in the cart, and you can keep the danda and keshri vesh (sannyasa dress) -- then your people will understand what it means to see their Shri Guru doing as Prabhupada did -- FOLLOWING THE ORDERS OF THE PREVIOUS SPIRITUAL MASTER AS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE DISCIPLE. 

[PADA: Nope, Lokanath has a propensity to enjoy some kind of relationship with females, and that disqualifies him as a sannyasa, never mind as a guru.]

He told you to get into the cart, but instead you have gotten yourself onto the wrong track of posing as guru rather than being guru.

[PADA: All of these post-1978 GBC gurus are posing and are not self realized souls, or they would not go along with all the GBC garbage.]

Anyone who has seen your flop movie LOST VILLAGE can see where you are at. That film wasted a huge fortune of Goddess Lakshmi on a ridiculously dumb PR project meant to portray you as some village saint. This film was made in collusion with others on the GBC to click on your REFRESH button, and give some good publicity for their village thronal acharya.

Even your Wiki page portrays you as some great Humanitarian rather than devotee. Get real, Loka. Lord Yamaraja will not be fooled by sentimental and impersonal public relations and excuses. Time is dear. It is running out for you.

Let me mention that I never saw you coming to the rescue of the Bombay Six at their years - long Murder Trial, or for Bhakta Dasa held illegally in Tihar Jail, or for the murders of foreign devotees by Indians who posed as devotees. Where were you then?

But instead of the bullock cart, you are taking taxis, or throne posing with a pink bonnet, or ripping off other people's writings or ideas, doing Bhagavata Saptas which inspire no one, or teaching your brahmacharis to beg instead of to farm, making people record your every burp with a date stamp, etc.

And those awful cut-and-paste book covers. Who are you trying to fool?

Get back now, Loka. This is your elder Gurubhai who am simply telling you what Prabhupada would be telling you. So listen up, buddy, drop the pompousness and the titles, kick the pink bonnet aside and hit the road.

Incidentally, I am your best friend for telling you this.

Best to you always

patita pavana dasa

[PADA: Sounds good, except Patita Pavana das is pals with Bhakti Vikas swami, who is promoting Basu Ghosh, who is promoting Lokanath as a guru. We need to cut the whole system, including its line of support, for this deviation. ys pd] 

Sunday, November 21, 2021

Gaura Govinda Maharaja / BVKS / Who is "The Guru"?

PADA: Thanks for the link JD. Yes. This is an interesting question. When Gaura Govinda maharaja says we need to worship "the guru" -- which guru does he refer to? 

Gaura Govinda maharaja for decades was telling his people to "work with" the other ISKCON GBC's "gurus," and their infrastructure and leadership program -- i.e. to help promote the GBC's worship of illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. Did I forget to mention GGM's "guru parampara" bans, beats, molests, sues and assassinates Vaishnavas? Is this guru parampara from heaven or hell, you decide!  

And GGM tells us in numerous lectures that we have to surrender to "the guru," a generic non-identified guru. And who is that guru? He never says. Bhakti Vikas swami does the same -- "everyone needs to surrender to a guru." What guru? Do we surrender to a guru from heaven or hell, nobody know! Srila Prabhupada says when people do not mention the name of the guru it is mayavada. OK surrender to "the guru" is mayavada. 

So this is really a sneaky way of telling people to surrender to their illicit sex "guru" parampara, and accept a member of that parampara. And both GGM and BVKS are "2/3 show of hands" voted into that sexual predator's parampara. So even if we accept them as "the guru," we are compromised with their whole debauchee's messiah's process. 

Of course many thousands of people have just walked out of ISKCON to "find the guru" in the Gaudiya Matha and other mathas etc. So this "go find the guru" process is causing ISKCON to become a ghost town. 

This is what Narayan Maharaja says:


PADA: Why have Srila Prabhupada as "the guru" when

Narayan Maharaja has a pocketful of GBC's pedophiles 

to be "the guru"?

And both GGM and BVKS claim their GBC guru process is taking people to God. And some of the remaining followers of GGM are still working hand in glove with the GBC's guru process, still promoting the GBC's guru process even now. And BVKS folks are also affiliated with various GBC guru projects.

GGM and BVKS have been claiming the participants in their GBC's "post-1978 guru parampara" process are Krishna's "gurus." Really? Seems Krishna has become very cheap when -- deviants, perverts and even pedophiles are contained as "links" in Krishna's alleged "guru chain."

After the GBC "reinstated" their "oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham acharya" in 1986, then the GBC "2/3's show of hands" voted in GGM and BVKS as that deviants co-gurus. What exactly is a "oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham -- guru parampara," GGM and BVKS never explain. And why would any saintly person want to be "certified as guru," at the same time that oral sex with taxi drivers is being re-certified as guru?  

And worse, GGM told me in person he has to "cooperate, tolerate and work with" these GBC's "gurus." And worse, GGM tells me that yes, the GBC is making homosexuals and pedophiles into "gurus" because -- "Kali Yuga has entered the highest places of ISKCON." We need to promote "gurus" who are infected with Kali Yuga? Where is any of this stated in shastra? 

And! We need to "tolerate, cooperate and work with" Kali Yuga's infected "gurus"? So all of this is juxtaposing actual bona fide gurus in the actual guru parampara (which includes Krishna) with all sorts of deviants, criminal, perverts, molesters etc. who are also allegedly Krishna's "parampara gurus." GGM and BVKS use the "guru" term very generically all the time. Reminds me when we were in India and some man told Srila Prabhupada "I worship the God only." And Srila Prabhupada was very perturbed, and he said "What God, which God, what God are you talking about"? 

So Krishna is guru, the GBC is guru, they themselves are guru (i.e. those who are voted into the sexual predator's parampara) -- or what? "We need to get the mercy of the guru." OK, but which guru? They are confusing people. And then GGM says sabda brahman does not descend from books and tapes, we need to hear from the living lips guru. Ummm, we need to hear from the lips of homosexuals, pedophiles, criminals, porno swamis, drunks, drug addicts, sexual predators and assorted deviants?

And that is why shastra says the people who "cooperate, tolerate and work" with deviants posing as gurus -- are implicated in the karma of those deviants. In short, false gurus go to the most obnoxious regions, and so do their hand maidens, advocates, cheer leaders, enablers etc. Where does Srila Prabhupada say we have to cooperate, tolerate, and work with -- and promote, the worship of debauchees and deviants as God's successors? And we have to be "2/3 show of hands voted in" to the pedophile's guru's "parampara" program. 

Meanwhile, any ordinary person walking down the street here in San Francisco ALREADY knows that worship of Gaura Govinda Maharaja's / BVKS's "gurus" -- who are perhaps sexual predators, drug addicts, porno swamis, pedophiles and / or deviant messiahs, takes a person to hell -- and not to God. We cannot worship sinful people and become free of sins ourselves. Worse, worship of sinful people takes the worshipers -- and their advocates / defenders / co-operators -- down to the lower regions. 

Therefore the ordinary persons on the street worship Jesus, because they know -- only a pure personality can take their sins. And only a pure person should be offered grace prayers before taking a meal (offering the meal to the pure devotee) etc. There is simply no bona fide reason to promote the worship of debauchees, criminals, predators and deviants as messiahs in human society.   

So GGM / BVKS say "the guru" opens the eyes of the disciples, and they are right, the followers of Jesus are well aware that we cannot worship dubious gurus. Unfortunately, GGM / BVKS never tells us why the GBC's deviated folks are gurus from square one? The mundane people worship a bona fide guru, aka Jesus, and so they have had their eyes opened, thus they know that worship of Gaura Govinda Maharaja's / BVKS's pedophile messiahs is not going to liberate them. 

And worse, they also know that worship of deviants is taking the persons involved in that scam to the lower regions, which would include the shastra defenders of -- the worship of deviants process -- ok like GGM / BVKS. 

Ordinary people know this is the opposite of elevation. So even the mundane people have had their eyes opened by worship of Jesus, and thus they can immediately see that GGM's / BVKS's pedophile's and deviant's guru parampara is a farce at best, and a danger to human society at worst. Which explains why Western people are avoiding and abandoning ISKCON, if not attacking the false current ISKCON.

Then GGM says, the material mental speculators cannot approach God. Also correct. For GGM to speculate that worship of his pedophile's acharyas process takes a person to God is called -- illusion. This is material speculation. There is simply no statement from Krishna anywhere -- where GOD says we have to worship a guru parampara full of deviants -- or their voted in successors -- like GGM or BVKS -- i.e. those who are "voted in" to an illicit sex with taxi drivers in the dham, and pedophiles, perverts, deviants etc. guru parampara. This is called mental speculation. There is no shastric basis to support the worship of deviants as Krishna's guru successors. Nor are deviants, or those voted in by deviants, "the guru."

Then GGM says the process is descending from from higher source. Pedophiles posing as gurus are GGM's "higher source"? GGM's pedophile gurus are descending from the higher plane? Ummm nope, his pedophile gurus are from the lower plane and they are trying to bring us back down to the lower plane with them. It is a case of the blind leading the blind, it is not a guru parampara.

So everyone should worship "the guru." Ummm nope, everyone had to worship the specifically named and identified guru, and offer bhogha to that guru, offer disciples to that guru etc. and we would submit that guru is Srila Prabhupada. In an case worship of Srila Prabhupada is currently not allowed in ISKCON, you have to worship any guru, as long as it is not Srila Prabhupada. That is unfortunately what has happened, which is why so many people think ISKCON has been taken over by Kali yuga, exactly as GGM says it has. ys pd      

Srila Prabhupada Original Books Site (Almost)

https://www.prabhupada-media.net/

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Similar site: 

https://prabhupada.io/books

[PADA: "Prabhupada-media," overall good idea. 

However! I was a little astonished to see they are advertising Kundali's book, saying that Srila Prahbupad'as "Back to Godhead" idea is bogus because we were never with Krishna originally. We should not be promoting the people who are attacking the siddhanta of the acharyas, and who are preaching mayavada. What kind of Srila Prabhupada disciple says "Back to Godhead" is a bogus idea, when that is the whole idea in itself?

Never mind Kundali has been a big supporter of "the living guru" idea, saying the books are not sufficient, we need one of his (conditioned soul) gurus. Nice job Kundali, now we have illicit sex with men, women, children, and cats "gurus." 

In any case, it is good that someone is making original books available. A good start. They need to refine the site and clear up advertising anti-Prabhupada materials. Sulochana said: ISKCON devotees have a tendency to add dog stools to the sweet rice, hee hee. He was not kidding! 

I am not sure how to contact these guys or what their program is. 

Let us know if you have details.  

angel108b@yahoo.com

ys pd    

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REGARDING YOUR QUESTION: how can the spirit soul fall down if it is eternal and changeless?

Srila Prabhupada:

Please accept my blessings. 

I am very glad to receive your letter of 8/20, and glad to hear that everything is going so nicely at our newest center. It all sounds very beautiful, and I am very anxious to come to you personally. 

Perhaps in October I shall go directly from here to San Francisco, and then to Santa Fe, before going to N.Y. 

About your question: The Spirit Soul is certainly eternal and changeless; and the fall is superficial, just like the relation between father and son cannot be broken ever. Now we are simply in a phase of forgetfulness, and this forgetfulness is called Maya. 

There is a nice example in the waning of the moon. To us the moon appears to be changing, but in fact the moon is always the same. So as eternal servitors of Krishna—our constitutional position—we fall down when we try to become the enjoyer, imitating Krishna. That is our downfall. 

Krishna is the Supreme Enjoyer, and we are constitutionally to be enjoyed by Him, and when we revive this constitutional position where is no more Maya. K.C. gives us the opportunity of rendering service to Krishna, and this service attitude only can replace us on our original position. 

Please therefore, continue to chant faithfully, and Krishna will reveal Himself, by His Causeless Mercy, and you will know everything automatically. I shall, of course always be ready and anxious to answer any question you have.

[Letter to Jananivasa -- Vrindaban 27 August, 1967]

Thursday, November 18, 2021

Srila Prabhupada "Material Civilization Will Collapse"

Srila Prabhupada said the material society will eventually collapse. It does seem like the wheels are coming off in different ways already. Srila Prabhupada was very emphatic that his followers should start rural communities, grow our own food, use oxen and not machines, become self-sufficient etc. but unfortunately that has not come to pass. Anyway, we should be aware of his statements, even if they were not followed. ys pd  


Prabhupada: Everything I get. So I haven't got to go outside for exchange. If you are satisfied in your farm--I am satisfied--then where is question of exchange? There is no need of artificial... So this banking, "fanking," everything will collapse automatically. There is no money, who is going to keep money in the bank?

Hari-sauri: Who needs it?

Prabhupada: (laughs) So this artificial way of banking, that will be also collapsed.

Hari-sauri: This is revolutionary.

Ramesvara: It's very hard for the mind to...

Prabhupada: No, simply do this.

Ramesvara: Such a dramatic transformation of society.

Prabhupada: Yes. Whatever it may be... We should be satisfied locally by our food, by our cloth, by our milk. That's all. Let the whole world go to hell. We don't care. If you want to save yourself also, you do this. Here is an example. If you want artificial life, city life, and hellish life, you do. But we shall live like this. This is the ideal life.

[Srila Prabhupada Room Conversation, January 21, 1977, Bhubaneswara]

ISKCON India's ICC Normalizes Child Abuse


[ pada ] angel108b@yahoo.com

 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-58825373

https://iskconicc.com/index.php/bureau-members/

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2021/07/iskcon-india-icc-responds-to-na-gbc.html

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2021/07/full-video-of-india-icc-defending.html

PADA: The ISKCON India ICC Bureau is currently defending a known pedophile (Lokanath swami) to be in the post of God's messiah successor for ISKCON. After this event was discovered and Lokanath swami was reprimanded slightly, some of the followers of this false messiah started to say to us -- Lokanath swami touched the young girl inappropriately because "it is a (India) cultural thing." 

Umm wait, India has "a culture" of middle aged men groping the crotch of young girls? And this middle aged man is also supposed to also be another Jesus messiah, a messenger from God -- for the victim he is grooming. So it is also "the culture of India" to worship pedophiles as God's successors (for children)? Where does Krishna say -- He wants His children to worship pedophiles as His successors?  

And the ICC ilk are also burying other pedophiles in samadhi graves, claiming that pedophiles are experiencing the highest levels of love of God, and pedophiles can absorb sins like Jesus etc. And they want little children to come and bow down to their samadhi grave sites, so little kids will be worshiping pedophiles -- forever. 

And if ISKCON is sued for $400,000,000 for the ICC's worship of pedophile messiahs project, so what? We should be glad to pay millions so we can establish pedophiles as "in the disciple line" of God's messiahs. When it comes to establishing that pedophiles, drunks, porno swamis, drug addicts, sexual predators, and yes -- sex with cats -- is all happening in God's line of successors, then money is no object for these ICC ilk people. 

Indeed! They would gladly spend ten trillion dollars to establish pedophiles and sexual predators as God's successors. One Jayapataka follower told me they would gladly spend $100,000,000 (to sue us and thus defend their pedophile guru process). 

And that is why their program had to be sued for $400,000,000 -- for abusing and starving their own ISKCON society's children. The ICC ilk want to feed their beef steaks lawyers and evidently not even feed their own society's children. And that is why their program was sued in the first place. Then the ICC folks spend allegedly $20,000,000 suing the leaders of a "free food for children" program in India, so they could try to starve millions and millions of more children. 

Again, if they could starve children, they would spend trillions, because "that is the culture of India"? Sorry, starving children is Satanic, it is not part of human society anywhere, either Western or Eastern. So they have NO problem spending $100,000,000 on legal fees to stop a feeding of children program, but they won't spend that same "legal" money -- feeding any actual children. They want to give chicken tikka / beef steaks and new Mercedes funds to mundane lawyers as "the culture of India."   

Sorry to have to point this out for them, but pedophile gurus are not part of "the culture of India." Nor are pedophiles in general the culture of India. So the India ICC is trying to say, or de facto they are saying, that pedophiles are not only "the culture of India" and thus "normal," pedophiles are also found in God's successors and messiahs "equals to Jesus" lineage. 

And when we say that we cannot compare pedophiles to folks like Jesus, then the ICC people have complained back to me "you are a Western mleccha, you do not understand our culture." Right, I forgot, pedophiles are Krishna's successor acharyas! Thus! Lets go out and spend $100,000,000 buying new Mercedes for our chicken tikka / beef steaks lawyers. The priority of India culture is -- to starve millions of little children. Really?   

I "don't understand" that the culture of India is -- to worship pedophiles as God's successors? Well anyway, notice that many folks in India are CURRENTLY protesting pedophiles because -- this is not "the culture of India." When these India ICC people try to normalize pedophiles as part of the culture, or even as Krishna's successor messiahs -- they are not following the culture of India. They are following Satan's culture. And -- who would say that pedophiles are God's successors in the first place? That is the question we get all the time here.

Notice that even the common citizens of India are protesting pedophiles, that means, it is not their "culture" and it is very offensive to India's cultural heritage -- of thousands of years of Krishna worship -- to claim that the ICC's pedophile messiah's worship process is "a cultural thing we mlecchas cannot understand." 

Sorry, we understand exactly what pedophile worship is. And we also understand that Krishna dispatches pedophile acharyas and their hand maidens (OK the ICC ilk) to the lowest, most obnoxious regions of darkness of the universe, along with their supporters. We understand "India's culture" more than they do. ys pd  


Don't worry Lokanath Maharaja

We will bury you in a pedophile samadhi 

along with our other pedophile samadhis.

This is "India's Culture" (???)


Tuesday, November 16, 2021

Conversation About Lokanath Swami (11/16/21)



KING OF THE MOLESTER MESSIAH's HILL

Standing on the skulls of thousands of banned and exiled devotees.
And numerous molested children.
LNS program orchestrates mass molesting, 
bankrupts ISKCON, murders dissenters, changed the books,
and some say -- poisoned their guru.
Of course -- he does not look too happy!
Yep! You are the emperor of this empire!

This picture of Lokanath is from ISKCON Solapur yesterday, where he just initiated many new disciples. Everyone in attendance was given strict instructions to not share photos or comments on the initiations.

Lokanath is currently being investigated for sexual abuse of an 11 year old child. He is also doing multiple initiations (not just in Solapur, but in Vrindavan and elsewhere) while he is being investigated, even though the GBC Executive Committee suspended him from initiating on May 12, 2021. Most of his new disciples I am guessing do not know that he admitted to sexually abusing a child.

KD: Love the pink turban. Its a nice touch.

M.E.: You don't think it clashes with the saffron? 

DS: Not just pink but HOT PINK.

JD: GIF may contain "A Large Piece Of Garbage,"  Its Not Good, Its Terribly Bad! 

N Dasi: What do his disciples think of the secrecy?

SD: Good question. I was wondering about that too. I don't know.

B Das: This is the most LOL clap back ever! He gets all this hate, being investigated, campaign against him all valid but he shows up in true pimp fashion sporting a pink turban initiating devotees as if to say “You can’t stop me.”
Sad for sure but this is a corrupt ISKCON…

BSD: Exactly, the hot pink is next level arrogance, loftiness and showboating.

N Dasi: I guess his new disciples also do not know he was suspended from doing any new initiations?

AM DASI: This is beyond the limit of shamelessness 

PADA: He does not look happy in the least. ys pd

AM DASI: How disgusting it makes me feel to see this picture, this pervert even feels he deserves to be worshipped as a saint. Child Protection Office! ISKCON GBC Strategic Planning Team! Why do they continue to allow this?

SD: You should write to the GBC Executive Committee: Bhakti Chaitanya Swami, Bhanu Swami Maharaj, and Revati Ramana das. They are the ones who gave the Lokanath case to the Child Protection Office then took it away 5 days later with no explanation.

A DASI: Sickening.

D Dasi: Wow, where is the protection of the GBC to these new devotees, who are taking an admitted sexual child offender as their Diksa guru, it just makes such a mockery of what Srila Prabhupada tried so hard to create. The GBC knows he is not qualified, but they cheat the innocent into thinking he is a guru.

AN Dasi: I've heard from some Indian-bodied friends that it's being spun as:

Don't listen to the ISKCON North Americans. They don't know true sanatana dharma or Indian culture. You don't talk about these things. You don't speak aparadha about an exalted Prabhupada disciple. Think of the disciple's feelings!
Even if it were true, it was so long ago & there have been no more victims. He was already punished by not being able to initiate disciples. 
Gaslighting 101. Same thing they said about their other gurus when they were flopping .... oh he does so much service etc.

ZD: They think we are offending their as good as God guru as they drink the water from his molester feet and they will worship his pedophile a** long after he is dead just like Radanatha did with Kirtananda. Lokanath will be in another samadhi next to other pedophiles and porno swamis, bringing more ill repute to the dham.

SD: Some of the disciples know but it’s easier for them to push it out of their mind then to have to think about it.

AD: Shameless!

RP DASI: I heard that mostly indian descent gbc members keeps him in position. There is some split.

AA DASI: Awesome. Now i know to vigilantly give dandavat pranams to that place...far FAR away from there. 

AYC: Disgusting!

LS DASI: The disciples probably don’t know and if they find out it’s always down played with, oh, but it was a mistake Maharaja made and he’s ‘corrected’ himself! Just NO! Everyone is born with a sexual preference and his happens to be CHILDREN! Even if he never acts on it again, he will always have that preference! There is no cure. What a complete and utter disgrace. ISKCON has really fallen. Srila Prabhupada must be very upset with these nefarious, ongoing demonic cover ups and lies.

SSD: Going to meet this "divine soul" in couple of weeks at Isckon Jaipur. I have been told by his men that he has moved on from that incident and doesn't pay heed to what goes on behind his back. He has his handlers (disciples) to manage all that, all he did was touch her thigh once. He wants to be living like a king.

SD: "Living like a king" might be why he refuses to step down, even after multiple GBC members have asked him to.

SSD: Rolling in cash (in his case, luxury) . Who wouldn't want that?

SD: Who wouldn't want to be rolling in cash? A sannyasi / renunciant with even an ounce of integrity.

SSD: "Even an ounce of integrity" That ship has long sailed in this case. Now it's just paisa, paisa, pass me the paisas.

LB: The Pink panther.

SD: "Lokanath Swami's authorization to initiate is hereby suspended pending the completion of the International CPO's review of Lokanath Swami's CPO case."
https://satyavrata.wixsite.com/.../may-2021-gbc-resolutions
International GBC Resolutions - May 2021
SATYAVRATA.WIXSITE.COM
International GBC Resolutions - May 2021
International GBC Resolutions - May 2021

LB: Lokanath will come undone. They all do. Bhavananda also not only initiated devotees unauthorised due to his fall downs but also installed Radha Shyamasundar dieties in Adelaide. Pride comes before a fall.

PP Das: "The Phantom of the Opera in the perfect image of a priest." -Dylan

RS DASA: Welcome to ISKCON'S guru business it must go on because people need bogus gurus to feel like they are spirit soul and bring in the cash. Yes Indeed. Mahamantra is enough. you don’t need a middleman bogus guru to spoil your life. The Sampradaya though doesn’t have bogus GBC elected gurus. The Sampradaya has Acharyas who are eternally liberated souls.

MDS DASI: That’s terrible. As long as a guru is holier than the followers, the guru is covered by the organization that declares him to be holier. Hence he can initiate and speak at conferences. What a shame. This planet needs to stop thinking anyone is holier than thou.

All of the devotees are human, some are more important as they are dearest. however humans do bad things even that guru. same with all those priests and the senior priests knew. they all knew. just like this guru. the other gurus know. therefore none are worth being more dearest than the rest

That's why I’m more like an atheist. No one should be able to harm others and still be a fine devotee and that’s why this guru is being honored and they look away at his heinous faults. I think we need a Law and Order episode of this guru and their imaginary ending would be quite satisfying. because real life let’s bad people lead spiritual people that should be far far away from the very faulty guru.

NH: You guys ready to quit the corporation yet? Settle down with some cows and good association finally.

G Pd: Too big to fail - for now at least, like a many questionable gurus before him, very few pull out of the nose dive, i wish him good luck in coming clean on his past. At least Bhakti Vikas swami tells people these gurus are a bunch of crashing jumbo jets, so you know what to expect.

R Dasa: THE. ISKCON. GBC ARE NOT TAKING THE CASE SERIOUSLY. WHY? OR DO WE ALL KNOW WHY?

SD: Dunno. You should ask them.

R Dasa: If they don’t take the case seriously. They are all rascals. Like Srila Prabhupada would say. 

SD: The GBC executive committee are the ones who took this case away from the child protection office. You should talk to them.

R Dasa: It is very clear. Crystal clear. If You don’t see it what can I do? I have no problem RASCALL IS A. RASCALL. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

SD: Some people use the term “rascal” affectionately and some don’t.

CJR: The person who shared it is very brave!! Plus he looks very unhappy for an "Initiation."

PT Das: The GBC has lost control. Most of the power is now in the hands of the ICC, a bunch of body-conscious retards. Either ISKCON splits or Madhu Pandit Dasa takes over.

I Dasa: This is an (another) outrage. And still nothing is being done? 

RRB DASI: Seeing him sit there like a king is a bit sickening. 

JK: Ridiculous. ISKCON and “maharaj” really let us down! 

RRB DASI: I’d say more so GBC than ISKCON. Otherwise, I agree.

JK: Totally agree.

RRB DASI: So let me get this straight…. He was suspended from initiating, is still currently suspended, and decided to initiate disciples anyway? This is just like a child testing boundaries with their parent. Looks like he (I’m not even going to say his name and give him more power at this point) is doing the same with the GBC and seeing how much he can get away with before getting chastised.

All this is doing is setting a BAD precedent. Unless something is done, devotees will know that they can even molest a child within ISKCON and get away with it. Then there will be cases of murder, rape, what next? All without being addressed, too ….

SD: I was told his suspension was unsuspended. But he’s still being investigated for child sexual abuse. 

LB: Perhaps Lokanath is a Judas Goat. [May be an image of animal, outdoors and text that says 'Some slaughterhouses use a "Judas goat." It's a trained goat that will calmly lead livestock to their slaughter while its own life is spared.'

LM Dasi: It is never a good thing when you are asked to keep secrets!!! (not to be confused with surprises, surprises are fun secrets are bad!)

JYD: CHEATERS AND THE CHEATED! 

RK Dasa: These Kali chelas may present themselves as gurus, but we know they are the cheaters and cheaters. A crow may place peacock feathers on himself and mix with them. No sooner the peacocks in a group dance displaying their majestic feathers then crows imitates the other peacock — all the Peacock feathers fall to the the mockery of the crows.

LV: Apathy and ignorance of every fiskcon member (except for the blameless ones) is to blame for every child rape that took place in that satanic organisation. Srila Prabhupada pointed out that ALL of the passengers who board such a STONE BOAT WILL SINK. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Yet, so many weak minded kali chela a**holes will never learn. 

May be an image of text that says 'Philosophy, Poetry, and Art No individual rain drop ever considers itself responsible for the flood. John Ruskin, English writer, philosopher'

SD: Also "bad things happen when good people do nothing."

AA DASA: ISKCON the institution allows this. If you want transparency and accountability, aim higher.

SD: I have written all the GBC members and some of them individually. What do you suggest?

AA DASA: If the GBC are not responsive to ISKCON congregation concerns, then you must leave ISKCON because it's a dangerous place that refuses to mop up moral hazards, and hold itself transparent and accountable to the members. Leave ISKCON and start your own organisation. When the GBC refuse to act, then that means ISKCON is beyond repair and hopeless.

AC Das: This is a grotesque image - the antipathy of a genuine sannyasi, flaunting his privileged position and refusing to step down in consequence of his sinful history. This makes an ugly mockery of his Guru Srila Prabhupada, the GBC and ISKCON. 


LOOK AT LOKANATH'S ACHARYA'S ART:



IT IS THE PLANET THEY ARE GOING TO,
AND THEY KNOW IT!