Sunday, February 28, 2021
Krishna Devotees and "Conspiracy Theories" (update)
Hare Kṛṣṇa Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!
I was very relieved to read your informative post "Yogis And Q-Anon (Yogi Tree Statement). Thank you so much for some sanity at last amongst this covid conspiracy madness by several devotees. It's high time someone spoke up about the conspiracy nonsense running rampant on a certain Krishna conscious website! Recently I'd had enough and protested at that Prabhupāda follower site which has been running amuck with disinformation about covid swab microchip brain implants, dna altering, population control, bill gates blah blah etc ad nauseum.
Very refreshing to read your post calling out the silliness that is going on. Thank you, dandavats! I don't expect you to publish this as I know you don't when folks write in but I just thought I'd pass on some positive feedback. Bless you.
हरे कृष्ण
Hare Kṛṣṇa
Ys, S Dasa
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PADA: Thanks for your comments. First of all, we DO allow and post comments -- most of the time -- if they are not too crazy. We had to disable the "allow (anonymous) comments" on the actual blog site and other sites -- because we were getting thousands of "spams" from anonymous persons. And then we had to weed through a ton of material to find the actual bona fide comments.
And since there is no means for us to identify and block these spammers, it was a futile mess. Of course, that means someone is sitting in their mother's basement typing away a barrage of anonymous statements to PADA -- with nothing better to do with their lives. So we adopted the e-mail address as a contact (angel108b@yahoo.com) and then at least we can identify who is sending what -- and avoid ten of thousands of anonymous spams. And if people want to post without having their name mentioned, also fine.
In any case, yes unfortunately many / most devotees are subjected to fraudulent information and FACTUAL conspiracies. That started with the bogus appointment of 11 gurus in 1978. Most of the sheeple devotees "went along to get along" with that process, and many of them still do.
How did your guess? PADA editor was "trying to fabricate a conspiracy that the 11 had NOT been appointed as gurus." Yep, it was a "conspiracy" to object -- to the real conspiracy! Then, when I said the 11 gurus have a falling down problem, how did you guess, "lies, fake news, attacking Prabhupada's appointed successors, destroying ISKCON" -- ad infinitum.
Most devotees thus had the whole conspiracy process, upside down. The real bogus guru conspiracy was supported, while those of us who objected were suppressed. Then, a number of those supportive of the original guru appointment conspiracy, themselves became "the second wave of gurus" by being voted into their system.
This was simply another layer of conspiracy planted on top of their previous layers of conspiracy, because gurus are not voted in. And even if they are voted in, they are not certified by a deviant if not pedophile guru lineage. Same thing, PADA was "making a conspiracy" claim by objecting to their bogus guru voting system, and was thus "fake news"! "Oh no! PADA is against expanding the preaching of Mahaprabhu"! Of course!
And thus! Gurus ARE voted in! Why? Because BR Sridhara Maharaja said we needed to do that. And BV Narayan Maharaja helped write "The Guru Reform Notebook" which laid the groundwork for their guru voting system.
Oddly, only a few folks -- like Kirtanananda swami -- agreed with us. He said the whole idea that gurus are "voted in -- and then managed by a Governing Body" is bogus, and is not part of our actual system and tradition. That was almost fatal for him, because one of the people who wanted to be "voted in" (Triyogi aka Michael Shockman) whacked him over the head with a rebar pipe, nearly killing him.
Triyogi felt there was a "conspiracy" among the 11 -- to stop all of us followers from ALSO being voted in as acharyas -- along with the 11. Hee hee, another conspiracy theory, to add to the pile. Yes, not voting in more people like Triyogi is -- another conspiracy -- to hold back the God brothers! Why are they holding us back? We need to be part of the next wave of messiahs!
And of course many / most of the ISKCON sheeple went along with BR Sridhara Maharaj when he propped up the bogus 11, and later he advised for their voting process. Then, many people went along with BV Narayan Maharaja when he became Tamal's bucket boy. Many ISKCON elders have even sent their children over to the BV Narayan Maharaja program, because if it is one thing we need to do -- it is to have our children worship the chief bucket boy for the illicit sex with men, women and children GBC's guru parampara of Tamal. Really?
We even have contemporary devotee associates who are now with Narayan Maharaja's group, and they are proud that their children are worshiping the bucket boy for the pedophile messiah's project. I said this is a conspiracy against children, to have them worship deviants and the cheer leaders / enablers for the deviants like NM. No one has really given us a good counterpoint.
Nor have many of them even attempted. OK, so they got sold on the conspiracy -- that it is good to promote the Narayan Maharaja ilk cheer leaders of the pedophile messiah's program, also as another layer of messiahs.
Then we had the Illuminati conspiracy crowd of Naranarayan Dasa Visvakarma / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks, telling us that we are "destroying Srila Prabhupada's golden body" by halting their sexual abuse of children program, which has children worshiping pedophiles as their acharyas. And then some of their victims have been committing suicide, and there has been a few somewhat recent (evidently) suicides from the same process.
They think that process is "the golden body of Srila Prabhupada and God"? Really?
Then! They tried to have PADA "removed from the internet" so they could save their favorite pedophile worshiping process by having their process going on unchecked by us. The HKC Jaipur clan even made a video with their GBC guru cheer leader "shiksha guru" Bhakta das, and said we need to listen to Radhanath's cheer leaders like Bhakta das (who also advertises for going to the Gaudiya Matha).
Umm, we need to listen to the cheer leaders of the pedophile messiah's club, to save the golden body of God? No, you guys are anti-children, pro-pedophile messiah's people posing as saints. The good news? More people are onto you guys every day.
Hee hee, what person walking down the street thinks we need to accept the cheer leaders of a pedophile guru process as our shiksha guru authority, to save God's religion? OK none. It is a conspiracy to discredit ISKCON, and to imperil children at the same time. Again! The good news is, most sane and serious devotees by now see that worship of a pedophile guru process is the actual cause celebre of these deviants, and they reject these folks. Goody, we will take the sane and serious, they can keep the pedophile messiah's enablers and advocates.
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Prabhu, so many "devotees" told me I was bogus for going to the police / FBI / media / public courts (to help a $400M child molesting lawsuit, BBTI lawsuit and other lawsuits), and in sum getting help from "outside the institution." For starters, I'd already have been assassinated a long time ago without help from these folks. So, if the people who are pointing to victimization and exploiting are being banned, beaten, suppressed, driven out, vilified, threatened, exiled, removed, sued, and worse, then -- what do people expect to happen? It is what my grand pa used to say, "You get what you deserve to get." I am amazed that people would do this over and over and over, and they expected a different result? And how could any of this happen in the name of "a spiritual organization."? Sorry, that is no longer a spiritual organization, it is a criminal organization. Yes, some of the victims told me -- ordinary folks treat their dogs better than we were treated .... what does that say about such an institution? ys pd
D1: There is no actual proof the covid virus even exists. The CDC cannot find anything. You are afraid of nothing.
PADA: The virus does not exists, so everyday you write about something that does not exist? Really?
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D1: There is no actual proof the covid virus even exists. The CDC cannot find anything. You are afraid of nothing.
PADA: The virus does not exists, so everyday you write about something that does not exist? Really?
OK so when an X-ray shows grey lungs, there is nothing there? And moreover there is no proof anything is there, it is just grey for no evident reason. That is why we need to rely on people who can actually read X-rays, and not rely on armchair speculators. Yes, devotees are also getting sick and dying from it, of course they are getting sick and dying from nothing, says -- the armchair experts who cannot even read X-rays.
Sorry, there is a cause for illness and death, and it is not "nothing." But yes, you are always talking about something you yourself claims "does not even exist," that is called paranoid, over nothing, according to yourself. The problem does not exist, therefore I write about it -- day in and out. Makes sense! If there is no problem, you are thus writing -- about nothing. Why are you paranoid about nothing, therefore nothing is your biggest concern?
You lost me mate. ys pd
D1: Yes-"lost"-is the operative word here. You are lost in covid consciousness. It may be grey but it is not from "covid". Covid has never been isolated as per CDC , therefore doesn't even exist. Grey lungs? Devotees dying? No doubt- just not from something called "covid". You were right about the 'guru business' , you just havent figured out this is the virus business.
D1: Yes-"lost"-is the operative word here. You are lost in covid consciousness. It may be grey but it is not from "covid". Covid has never been isolated as per CDC , therefore doesn't even exist. Grey lungs? Devotees dying? No doubt- just not from something called "covid". You were right about the 'guru business' , you just havent figured out this is the virus business.
PADA: OK so there are greyed out lungs x-rays and devotees are dying, not sure- who cares what is it technically called? I am glad that you are finally at least saying it is not "nothing" anymore. So people are dying, their lungs are greyed out, and all you can do is argue -- that there is no proof that the title of the illness is accurate?
The "accurate title" of the illness really does not matter a whole lot to the people who have it. Amazing, the whole problem now is, you do not agree with the title of the illness. To me it does not matter what it is called, there is a deadly ailment out there, and it is spreading person to person because allegedly 300 devotees got it in Sivarama's zones, and it has been spreading in Mayapura, and it has spread in the hospital where my friends work, and so on and so forth.
Thus -- it is a person to person spread -- of a severe illness. So now we have a deadly person to person illness spread problem, and we are upset that it was not given a proper title by the CDC? Who cares what the CDC says -- or does not say? Why are you even citing these people? You need to talk to some people on the ground working with the issue on a daily basis, like my neighbor nurses, devotee nurses, devotees who have had the illness, etc. -- like I do.
All of them know this is a real problem and it is not "nothing," and it does not matter a whole lot what is "the official title" of the ailment or not. It is a real issue and it is having a real impact on people -- all over the planet.
ys pd
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Saturday, February 27, 2021
Woman Crusader Wants to Save Catholic Church -- From Itself
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/woman-save-catholic-church-itself-120000233.html
[PADA: Reminds me of the story of a little elderly nun that lived near me many years ago. She was doing all sorts of investigations, so they moved her out of the city to a teeny town, and told her to be the gardener. "Take care of the flowers."
OK to get her out of the way.
Yet she persisted in keeping her contacts, and eventually had four priests removed from the city she was formerly in. Now this is yet another lady, also is taking a battle axe to the same issue. See, I told ya, women can fight as good as men, or better than men, especially when they see children being exploited. The women are evidently more protective of children, at least they can be, it is their nature.
And thus some of them will take out the axe way before a lot of men, at least that seems to be the case -- in some instances. Bravo to these ladies. You ladies are fighting better than a lot of weak and foolish men who go along to get along. We support you. ys pd
Friday, February 26, 2021
ISKCON Official Statement on Vaccines
https://iskconnews.org/gbc-ec-issues-official-statement-on-the-covid-vaccine,7707/?
PADA: Pretty much my same idea. Devotees should get the vaccine, or not, based on their personal preference. If I say "don't get it," and then someone dies who might have been saved from the vaccine, that would not be a good outcome. At the same time some few folks are evidently having bad results with the vaccine.
My neighbors got the shot, they work in a hospital, and they said it has not affected them and so they are happy to feel protected. If they factually are protected remains to be seen. So there will be different results. If devotees have different experiences with the vaccine they would like to share, send to:
angel108b@yahoo.com
ys pd
ISKCON Inc. Increases Web Presence
Iskcon Inc <iskconinc@gmail.com>
To:prabhupadanugas dasaBcc:angel108b@yahoo.com
Fri, Feb 26 at 9:13 AM
Connect with Iskcon,Inc on Social Media Platforms
Announcement
We are glad to inform that, Iskcon, Inc, a Prabhupadanuga society, now has a verified page on all major SM platforms.
FB Page : https://www.facebook.com/iskconny/
Twitter : https://twitter.com/IskconInc
Instagram : http://instagram.com/iskconinc
Telegram : https://t.me/iskconinc
Gab : https://gab.com/IskconInc
Parler: https://parler.com/profile/Iskconinc/posts
Koo : https://www.kooapp.com/profile/iskcon
Lets Krishna-ize social media, Like and follow these pages and handles. Let’s connect to spread Prabhupāda Vāṇī to one and all.
Gauranga Sundar Das
[PADA: Good idea. We should use social media to our advantage. As one devotee noted recently, there are more pro-Prabhupada web sites right now than pro-GBC guru sites. We are making progress.
We have previously started the ball rolling, even before there was an internet, with our "snail mail" PADA news program. Various reformer wanna-be devotees have tried to take over (or even hijack) the PADA reform process, like the IRM, Hitler-anugas, HKC Jaipur types and so on, but it looks like many people, especially other Prabhupadanugas, as well as various police, FBI, media people, book writers, scholars, TV people etc. trust and use PADA as a source, because they feel we have the reliable info. Of course, if someone else can do better, hey go for it!
In any case we are glad more Prabhupadanuga-ness is coming on board. More is better, and needed. Lets support these folks' web presence and get more people into the Prabhupadanuga-ness scheme of things. ys pd]
Thursday, February 25, 2021
Prabhupada House Melrose Florida (Video)
https://www.facebook.com/118921316686119/videos/1755572357960839
[PADA: Someone asked me about these folks. Well for starters, they have their official title down pretty good. I am not sure what is the exact situation here, but this is the type of thing we predicted would have to happen -- smaller -- independent -- grass roots programs: with an emphasis on Srila Prabhupada. And this would be the future of ISKCON.
And this would happen more, as the corporate shell of ISKCON gradually fades down, since more and more people will reject their "living guru" corporate managed messiah's program. The emphasis here is on Srila Prabhupada direct or de facto, at least apparently.
Meanwhile, more and more people are coming to our sites, videos and blogs, as there is more and more interest and curiosity about the post 1978 history of ISKCON. Overall, we are making progress. "Prabhupada House" is a good start in any case, there is where the emphasis belongs.
If people have comments on this program send to angel108b@yahoo.com.
ys pd]
India's Temples Failing: Lack of Support (Sadguru)
[PADA: An India friend of mine said that in India -- even many tea shops have nicer, cleaner and newer modern buildings, opulent decorations, WI-FI connections, and many staff and servants etc. -- which many temples do not have.
Whereas many temples and deities are in a run down situation, with crumbling buildings, deities wearing clothes that were made decades ago, and in sum -- barely making ends meet. He said that we are almost seeing that many people worship tea -- more than they worship the deities in the temples. How true! And how sad. The culture is deteriorating right before us. ys pd]
Wednesday, February 24, 2021
Yogis And Q-anon (Yogi Tree Statement)
[PADA: There are unfortunately a number of Krishna devotees who have been swept away into all sorts of mundane conspiracy theories, a sort of "Q-anon syndrome." One devotee writes me all the time telling me "become calm and turn off your TV set -- and watch my video links about the child abducting illuminati programs, that want to de-populate the world with computer chipped vaccines."
OK fine, but that is not the way to calm a person down. Hee hee! And then there are devotees who are telling us about the lizard people from the Draco constellation who are running the earth -- as its leaders or behind the scenes leaders -- for the past thousands of years. Right, and you are going to boot them out of office by typing something on your keyboard? Not likely!
Then we have Mukunda and the Hitleranugas always going on about the "brown people taking over the UK" -- like the Hindus -- who worship Krishna? People worshiping Krishna in the UK are our biggest problem! Really?
In sum, there is a lot of paranoid delusions going on here, making some devotees more illusioned, frightened and bodily conscious than the regular mundane people. One devotee lady says she is afraid that China will invade the USA and rape all the women, including her. Wait? Who told you that in the first place? OK, it is some whack doodle web site, that is what I thought!
A Krishna devotee should not be consumed with all this anyway. The world will always be a bad place, and we simply cannot change that -- hardly at all. One ant cannot move the entire Empire State building. It is futile. We are supposed to surrender to Krishna and not try to prepare for the alleged, theoretical, speculative, illuminati take over, China invasion, computer chip vaccine problem etc.
One devotee also writes to me for the past three months about the virus, masks, vaccines etc. ... and that is all he ever posts about. So I told him -- you are nearly 100 percent virus consciousness, while the mundane people are maybe at most 5 percent virus consciousness. In sum, you are suffering more from paranoid delusions than the regular guy on the street. So we should have some general knowledge about the world, fine, but not make it consume us -- and especially, make us paranoid delusional nut cases, more paranoid delusional than the regular Joe six pack guy walking down the street. Anyway, our community is not alone in seeing this development. ys pd]
OFFICIAL STATEMENT REGARDING QANON IN OUR COMMUNITY
Sat Nam and Namaste,
In light of recent events, I feel the need to make a statement about what this community stands for, what we stand up to, and our overarching belief system. In 2020, QAnon deeply infiltrated the spiritual community. The Yogi Tree and The INlighten Community do not support QAnon’s messages of hate, fear, and division.
QAnon is a complicated merger of conspiracy theory, live action role play (LARP) gaming, hate-group ideology, and targeted disinformation strategy. Most followers are largely unaware of these influences and stumble upon QAnon accidentally. They may not realize that QAnon is an extremist movement that spreads misinformation, confusion, and paranoia rooted in white nationalism, antisemitism, and anti-government sentiment.
When the global pandemic hit, QAnon actors deliberately and strategically targeted the [yoga and] wellness communities by appealing to people’s interest in alternative health practices and mistrust of established institutions. Credible arguments can be made that QAnon is a cult with classic indoctrination techniques. The deadly violence that was perpetrated at the US Capitol on Jan. 6., 2021, included followers of the QAnon movement.
In recent months, our concerns have grown stronger about the QAnon phenomenon in our community and we have had many conversations about its influence. As with all things, we believe that education and open discussion are key. The Yogi Tree and The INlighten Community strongly encourage engaging in tough conversations and holding space for learning and growing – but we do not support QAnon rhetoric in any way.
How has QAnon gained such traction? Two of the issues QAnon distorts – child abuse and human trafficking – are legitimate concerns, and many in the wellness community feel passionate about stopping them. You can tell the information you are getting is QAnon related if it includes pleas “to protect the children” mixed with QAnon anti-trafficking hashtags such as #savethechildren, #endsextrafficking, #eyeswideopen, #thegreatawakening, #dotheresearch, #followthewhiterabbit. (Be aware that these are only a few examples and there are many, ever-morphing buzzwords, codes, and hashtags associated with QAnon.)
In recent months, our concerns have grown stronger about the QAnon phenomenon in our community and we have had many conversations about its influence. As with all things, we believe that education and open discussion are key. The Yogi Tree and The INlighten Community strongly encourage engaging in tough conversations and holding space for learning and growing – but we do not support QAnon rhetoric in any way.
How has QAnon gained such traction? Two of the issues QAnon distorts – child abuse and human trafficking – are legitimate concerns, and many in the wellness community feel passionate about stopping them. You can tell the information you are getting is QAnon related if it includes pleas “to protect the children” mixed with QAnon anti-trafficking hashtags such as #savethechildren, #endsextrafficking, #eyeswideopen, #thegreatawakening, #dotheresearch, #followthewhiterabbit. (Be aware that these are only a few examples and there are many, ever-morphing buzzwords, codes, and hashtags associated with QAnon.)
To effectively combat these horrible crimes, we ask that you avoid QAnon propaganda and instead work with reputable groups that have experience and need support like Children of the Night https://www.childrenofthenight.org/and Apne Aap https://apneaap.org/.
More generally, spiritual seekers are attracted to the idea of hidden and secret knowledge, and the existence of a grand cosmic plan. I firmly believe that this is a byproduct of the Guru culture and needs to be addressed through long-term reform and evolution of our spiritual understanding. We need to learn to balance intuition with critical thinking.
More generally, spiritual seekers are attracted to the idea of hidden and secret knowledge, and the existence of a grand cosmic plan. I firmly believe that this is a byproduct of the Guru culture and needs to be addressed through long-term reform and evolution of our spiritual understanding. We need to learn to balance intuition with critical thinking.
Even the yogic scriptures talk about how important it is to discern information. In meditative experiences we can get caught up in images and thoughts that come to us. It is important to take those images and thoughts to pen and paper, then to contemplation, then to the logical mind for processing so we can have grounded vision. Without this process, we can become susceptible to the shadow side of magical thinking that amplifies fear, illusion, and panic.
QAnon also penetrated wellness spaces through anti-vaccination groups and has used the Coronavirus pandemic to spread misinformation and unproven theories presented as scientific fact. Therefore, we must specifically mention fears about vaccine safety and vaccine hesitancy, which are often distinctive from one another along cultural, socioeconomic, and racial lines.
It is healthy and natural to have questions about any medical treatment or procedure, regardless of its origin. If you are concerned about vaccine safety, examine the topic from many points of view to determine what is the right path for you. There are many reasons an individual cannot be vaccinated and those questions can be explored with medical and health practitioners who are grounded in peer-reviewed, scientific research relevant to the area of expertise in question.
QAnon also penetrated wellness spaces through anti-vaccination groups and has used the Coronavirus pandemic to spread misinformation and unproven theories presented as scientific fact. Therefore, we must specifically mention fears about vaccine safety and vaccine hesitancy, which are often distinctive from one another along cultural, socioeconomic, and racial lines.
It is healthy and natural to have questions about any medical treatment or procedure, regardless of its origin. If you are concerned about vaccine safety, examine the topic from many points of view to determine what is the right path for you. There are many reasons an individual cannot be vaccinated and those questions can be explored with medical and health practitioners who are grounded in peer-reviewed, scientific research relevant to the area of expertise in question.
Vaccine hesitancy is a term most often used to describe the concern and skepticism among BIPOC communities and individuals over medical research and treatments. These communities have trauma from centuries-old exploitation of their bodies as the result of non-consensual government experiments. These also happen to be the communities most devastated by Covid-19.
Taking this context into consideration, it becomes clear that these questions and answers are complex and personal. Generalized promotion or demonization of vaccines or related issues by yoga teachers or wellness practitioners – regardless of personal education, background, or experience – is inappropriate and potentially harmful. We trust in the good faith of people in our community – yet we are painfully aware of the insidious and pervasive reach of QAnon and do not want anyone deliberately or unwittingly sharing these beliefs. Please notify me if you have concerns about any person or experience associated with the community.
We have much healing work to do together on many levels. Our community stands proudly behind discovering truth, children’s rights, women’s rights, and human rights. We believe that taking care of your body, mind and spirit is the most powerful preventative medicine on the planet. We believe that we are all one and that the awakening of our spiritual consciousness is essential for the evolution – and even the preservation – of humanity.
We also firmly oppose using these beliefs to commit any form of gaslighting, exclusion, or “othering.” We stand against spiritual bypass and the Guru culture. We reject the ableism that falsely sells dedication to yoga and wellness practices as perfect cure-alls for every physical, emotional, or mental condition. We endeavor to meet people where they are, not impose upon them where we believe they can or should be. We welcome people from all walks of life to come to a safe place to be heard, seen, and witnessed.
We are a collective that supports each person’s right to make informed decisions about their own bodies, medical care, and health care choices. We stand for social justice, personal and structural accountability, and working to become allies for BIPOC. We believe that education is the key to becoming a cohesive society that bridges gaps in culture, religion, race, socioeconomic backgrounds, and matters of sustainability on the planet. We believe it is imperative that we take the time to source credible information and sound ways of questioning all that we are exposed to in the news and on social media.
I care deeply about the yoga and wellness community and I am concerned about the individual and collective path forward. The Aquarian Age presents us with confusing and challenging times. A spiritual community or individual seeker’s deep desire to understand the complexity of life can make it vulnerable to nefarious influences. I don’t want to see anyone exploited or manipulated by guru culture or an organization that has its roots in white supremacy.
Taking this context into consideration, it becomes clear that these questions and answers are complex and personal. Generalized promotion or demonization of vaccines or related issues by yoga teachers or wellness practitioners – regardless of personal education, background, or experience – is inappropriate and potentially harmful. We trust in the good faith of people in our community – yet we are painfully aware of the insidious and pervasive reach of QAnon and do not want anyone deliberately or unwittingly sharing these beliefs. Please notify me if you have concerns about any person or experience associated with the community.
We have much healing work to do together on many levels. Our community stands proudly behind discovering truth, children’s rights, women’s rights, and human rights. We believe that taking care of your body, mind and spirit is the most powerful preventative medicine on the planet. We believe that we are all one and that the awakening of our spiritual consciousness is essential for the evolution – and even the preservation – of humanity.
We also firmly oppose using these beliefs to commit any form of gaslighting, exclusion, or “othering.” We stand against spiritual bypass and the Guru culture. We reject the ableism that falsely sells dedication to yoga and wellness practices as perfect cure-alls for every physical, emotional, or mental condition. We endeavor to meet people where they are, not impose upon them where we believe they can or should be. We welcome people from all walks of life to come to a safe place to be heard, seen, and witnessed.
We are a collective that supports each person’s right to make informed decisions about their own bodies, medical care, and health care choices. We stand for social justice, personal and structural accountability, and working to become allies for BIPOC. We believe that education is the key to becoming a cohesive society that bridges gaps in culture, religion, race, socioeconomic backgrounds, and matters of sustainability on the planet. We believe it is imperative that we take the time to source credible information and sound ways of questioning all that we are exposed to in the news and on social media.
I care deeply about the yoga and wellness community and I am concerned about the individual and collective path forward. The Aquarian Age presents us with confusing and challenging times. A spiritual community or individual seeker’s deep desire to understand the complexity of life can make it vulnerable to nefarious influences. I don’t want to see anyone exploited or manipulated by guru culture or an organization that has its roots in white supremacy.
Sharing sensational and exploitive posts that promote fear and suspicion only result in separation and elitism. Fear does not lead to freedom. Fear leads to isolation. We learn and grow most effectively in loving, supportive environments. The goal in yoga is to “yoke” or unite. So let’s unite in our commitment to promote a way of thinking and living that is clear-eyed and conscious, not seduced and mystified.
Sincerely,
Jennifer Lakhmi Chand Kelly
RESOURCES
If you would like to know more about this alarming marriage between alt-right conspiracists and the wellness world you can check out the podcast Conspirituality (available on Spotify, Apple, and other platforms).
You can learn more about peer-reviewed science here. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4975196/
If you are struggling with a friend or family member who you think may be under the influence of QAnon, you are not alone. https://www.huffpost.com/.../children-of-qanon-believers...
For more understanding of QAnon’s cult practices, check out Jim Stewartson on Twitter and his https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-thinkin-project or Steven Hassan’s Freedom of Mind project at https://freedomofmind.com/
Sincerely,
Jennifer Lakhmi Chand Kelly
RESOURCES
If you would like to know more about this alarming marriage between alt-right conspiracists and the wellness world you can check out the podcast Conspirituality (available on Spotify, Apple, and other platforms).
You can learn more about peer-reviewed science here. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4975196/
If you are struggling with a friend or family member who you think may be under the influence of QAnon, you are not alone. https://www.huffpost.com/.../children-of-qanon-believers...
For more understanding of QAnon’s cult practices, check out Jim Stewartson on Twitter and his https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-thinkin-project or Steven Hassan’s Freedom of Mind project at https://freedomofmind.com/
Tuesday, February 23, 2021
Srila Prabhupada Murtis On Walmart Site
[PADA: Well there you have it. The GBC ilk have banned, beaten, threatened, exiled, discouraged, sued, attacked, vilified, removed, kicked out, and generally got rid of most of the devotees. So now, the devotees have to make their own homes into their own temples with their own murtis and so on. There are few people left to tend to the actual murtis in the actual temples.
It is a sign of the times.
The only good news is, at least people would want a murti of Srila Prabhupada and not some guru wanna-be GBC. This is probably the last thing a lot of devotees would have expected to see, but the unexpected is more and more common with the whole ISKCON imbroglio these days. ys pd]
Monday, February 22, 2021
11 Gurus Become "Catastrophic Ship Wreck" (11 Naked Emperors)
Eleven Naked Emperors
February 1978: On or around this date in history 43 years ago, shortly before the 1978 GBC meetings, several of the ISKCON ritvik priests visited B. R. Shridhar Maharaja and requested his advice especially regarding the relationship between the eleven acharyas and the GBC. During February and March 1978, in preparation for the annual meetings, GBC members—Jayapataka Swami, Tamal-Krishna Goswami, Jayatirtha dasa, Harikesh Swami, Satsvarupa dasa Goswami, Jayadvaita Swami and others—visited B. R. Shridhar Swami for guidance.
Why did the GBC need B. R. Shridhar Swami’s advice? Hadn’t their spiritual master already told them everything they needed to know? A few months before his passing, Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada announced to his disciples, “So there is nothing to be said new. Whatever I have to speak, I have spoken in my books. Now you try to understand it and continue your endeavor. Whether I am present or not present doesn’t matter.”
“The reason they [the eleven] went to [B. R.] Shridhar concerning the guru issue was simple,” explained Ameyatma, a junior disciple. “The GBC were convinced that Shrila Prabhupada wanted the eleven ritvik representatives to become regular gurus when he left. But after Shrila Prabhupada left they found themselves totally in the dark on how to set up such a multi-guru zonal-acharyas system.
Tamal-Krishna Goswami, one of the principle architects of the zonal-acharya system, himself admitted (years later), “Prabhupada did not give us instructions on these particular details.” Satsvarupa confirmed, “Shrila Prabhupada did not give us much instruction on how to carry out the affairs of guruship.”
Harikesh Swami agreed, “I received . . . [an] official letter [the July 9th, 1977 ritvik appointment letter] with a list of [eleven] names on it of those who were supposed to initiate disciples as they wished without having to get approval for it. My name was on it. I received no further information than that. There was no training for what was to come, no instructions. It [guruship] was thrown at me.”
February 1978: On or around this date in history 43 years ago, shortly before the 1978 GBC meetings, several of the ISKCON ritvik priests visited B. R. Shridhar Maharaja and requested his advice especially regarding the relationship between the eleven acharyas and the GBC. During February and March 1978, in preparation for the annual meetings, GBC members—Jayapataka Swami, Tamal-Krishna Goswami, Jayatirtha dasa, Harikesh Swami, Satsvarupa dasa Goswami, Jayadvaita Swami and others—visited B. R. Shridhar Swami for guidance.
Why did the GBC need B. R. Shridhar Swami’s advice? Hadn’t their spiritual master already told them everything they needed to know? A few months before his passing, Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada announced to his disciples, “So there is nothing to be said new. Whatever I have to speak, I have spoken in my books. Now you try to understand it and continue your endeavor. Whether I am present or not present doesn’t matter.”
“The reason they [the eleven] went to [B. R.] Shridhar concerning the guru issue was simple,” explained Ameyatma, a junior disciple. “The GBC were convinced that Shrila Prabhupada wanted the eleven ritvik representatives to become regular gurus when he left. But after Shrila Prabhupada left they found themselves totally in the dark on how to set up such a multi-guru zonal-acharyas system.
Shrila Prabhupada had not given them one single instruction—zero—nothing, on how to set up such a system. Were the gurus to have their own vyasasanas? Should they remove Shrila Prabhupada’s paintings and murtis (a murti is a statue of a deity or the spiritual master) and sit in his seat? Should all the temples have all the photos of all the gurus on their altars all the time, or only a photo of the local or visiting gurus?
Are gurus to be authorities over the GBC, or was the GBC still to have authority over the gurus? . . . They found that they had a million questions, and Shrila Prabhupada had given them . . . not a word or a vague hint how in the hell was the whole damn thing supposed to be set up and how was it to work? The GBC found themselves totally in the dark.”
Tamal-Krishna Goswami, one of the principle architects of the zonal-acharya system, himself admitted (years later), “Prabhupada did not give us instructions on these particular details.” Satsvarupa confirmed, “Shrila Prabhupada did not give us much instruction on how to carry out the affairs of guruship.”
Harikesh Swami agreed, “I received . . . [an] official letter [the July 9th, 1977 ritvik appointment letter] with a list of [eleven] names on it of those who were supposed to initiate disciples as they wished without having to get approval for it. My name was on it. I received no further information than that. There was no training for what was to come, no instructions. It [guruship] was thrown at me.”
Bhavananda Goswami claimed, “It’s my fault and on another hand it’s not my fault: it’s the system’s fault. Everything was thrust upon us.”
However, despite the protestations by Tamal-Krishna, Satsvarupa, Harikesh, and Bhavananda, some others claim that Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada had given some instructions—instructions which they had ignored: “When I order, ‘You become guru,’ he [my disciple] becomes regular guru. That’s all.” Prabhupada did not instruct his disciples to become acharyas and sit on elevated thrones.
When the eleven, in tandem with the GBC, neglected their spiritual master’s instructions and embarked on the zonal-acharya diksha-guru course, they became lost in uncharted and unfamiliar waters. A catastrophic shipwreck was inevitable.
Eleven Naked Emperors, Chapter 6: The Rise of the Zonal Acharyas, 79-80.
Eleven Naked Emperors, Chapter 6: The Rise of the Zonal Acharyas, 79-80.
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Baltimore ISKCON "Free Food for 10 Miles"
PADA: OK well this is good. It is going to give ISKCON a good name -- for a change! I am a fan. Some people said "oh PADA is bogus because he likes the Bangalore free food program." Ummm, well that is way better than the devotees selling bogus Hong Kong oil paintings -- claiming they were painted by famous artists? They even had a bogus "certified as worth $1,500" sticker on some of these paintings, which the devotee stuck on there themselves.
Yep, we need more good image programs, I see that as a good sign. Bravo, let us make Krishna the God of mercy and NOT the God of giant jackboots and cracker pot dope head molester messiahs. That is what we said -- all along. Lets move ahead. Now it if we can just get people to offer the bhogha to the pure devotee, we will really be on a roll here. Hee hee! ys pd
Sunday, February 21, 2021
Institution (and citizens) can Burn to the Ground (BG Narasingha swami)
What about the children?
THE INSTITUTION CAN BURN TO THE GROUND!
The main thing is self-realization - not this institutional -- that goes down! “We do this because of the institution!” Where’s the self-realisation? To hell with the institution! Self-realization will birth a million institutions. And you know what? An institution will not birth one child of self-realization EVER! Think about it!
The institution could burn to the ground, but if we can save the knowledge and the devotees, a glorious thing will continue to grow and will rise from the ashes like a phoenix. But if you destroy the siddhānta, the institution can never reproduce pure devotion. It doesn’t exist.
[PADA: I find it somewhat amazing that Sridhara Maharaja and BG Narasingha folks can endorse their illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara systems, and then essentially tell their victims -- who are suffering inside their bogus and bad process -- they can just go to hell. Sridhara Maharaja also said that the GBC can "dig their own graves" and so on and so forth.
So the devotees are being banned, beaten, molested, sued, and and assassinated by the bogus guru programs endorsed by Sridhara Maharaja and BG Narasingha et al., and -- who cares? Let them all go to hell.
And when children are being mass molested etc. "so what" "let the leaders dig their own graves (and take the children with them into their graves)." There just seems to be all iron fist here, and no mercy whatever. We are going to endorse Joseph Stalin as our messiah, and when victims of our program are being starved, beaten, jailed, raped, murdered -- who cares? 750,000 people are being executed because of us promoting this guy, so what? Let them all -- burn in hell.
It is amazing how badly these people misunderstand karma. The people who supported Stalin -- then had to suffer the karma -- of supporting him. We cannot support violent pedophile guru cults, then tell the victims so what, they can all go to hell. Where is the compassion? Where is the responsibility? Accountability? Remorse? There is evidently, none.
A guy drives a car into the crowded market and kills 20 people, then he says -- so what? Let everyone go to hell? And that is why the judge gives this guy more years in jail. He has no remorse. And the Sridhara people will also get more time in Yamadutta land for the same reason. They just stomp jackboots on their victims like there is no problem victimizing other beings -- who are part of Krishna. Krishna will never approve of this attitude.
Yes, let us endorse a child molester guru cult, and when the children are crying in pain and suffering, so what, "let the leaders dig their own graves -- and take these kids along into their graves"? Astonishing heartlessness!
This is how cult think goes on, the cult is authorized to administer pain to others, wait, so the institution survives? Sridhara Maharaja essentially said we have to support the false gurus TO SAVE THE INSTITUTION, and Gaura Govinda Maharaja said the same thing. They are saying the institution is not important, but then they will toss children into a wood chipper, to save their bogus institution? This is hypocrisy on steroids. ys pd]
Saturday, February 20, 2021
New Age Filtering Into the Church (VIDEO)
[PADA: Wow. Krishna devotees could learn a lot from this lady. We have an out-cropping of new age-ism in the Krishna faith as well, and it is not helpful. So many devotees told me "Krishna will sort it all out," "we have to be merciful with criminals -- because God is also," "we should not be judgemental (even with crooks)," and of course the wholesale yoga classes, women dancing around in yoga pants, etc. also being seen more and more in so-called Krishna temples. Never mind the Radhanath disciple who really minimizes Bhagavad Gita in his "new age classes" etc. ys pd]
ISKCON Russia: Lost Lives / Lost Archives
From Russia News:
In the USSR, there was a council for religious affairs, where the ISKCON archive in Russia was kept from the moment of Srila Prabhupada's arrival until the collapse of the USSR. It contained much of the information about the followers of ISKCON: who was originally recruited, all the way down to -- who was protesting bad management and ratting out fellow "devotees." And therefore -- who was being shunned, banned, purged out, and removed etc.
There were biographies of key leaders, many of whom are now gurus and sannyasis. There was a record of various court cases, including criminal cases. There was a record of who came, who left. Police investigations and wiretapping, and everything in that process was also recorded. And there were volumes of cases.
This archive ended up with Radha Damodar das, and he hid it at his home so almost no one knew about the archive. He received this archive in 1988 and studied it until his death. Then, the leaders of the Russian ISKCON found out that there is an archive located at the home of Radha Damodar.
There is a version that his own wife, Bhakti-lata dasi, ratted out him to get some funds, because after the death of her husband, Bhakti-lata dasi received repairs in the apartment -- at the expense of Bhakti Vijnana swami. And she received other bonuses.
When the leaders found out about the archive, Radha Damodar mysteriously dies? There is an article on this topic "How Radha Damodar was (mis) treated (killed)", but in short: he was put on home treatment and someone evidently poured in bicarbonate of soda intravenously. After his death, Bhakti Vijnana's people came to his home and took the archive and other materials. They allegedly took it to Yurlovo and gave it to to Krishnanandana, and then the archive mysteriously disappeared, according to available information. Then, the archive was apparently burned or disappeared by some means.
[PADA: Yes, this is one of the reasons so many devotees opposed the writings of me and Sulochana das. We were essentially making a written record of post-1978 ISKCON's various forms of cheating and exploiting the citizens, including child molesting, sexual predators in the guise of leaders, and a host of other crimes and scandals. And the leaders wanted all their dirty laundry hidden from the public, because it was bad for their exploiting business. So we became targets of violence and suppression.
And! We are more than confident that same type problem exists in other countries, like Russia. And then there are the ladies making public protests in Mexico etc. That is also why the GBC types and or / Narayan Maharaja types / and their allies like Naranaryan das Visvakarma / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur types (et al.) supported or wanted a petition to have PADA removed from the internet, claiming we were harming "the golden body of Srila Prahbupada."
Yep, Sulochana said these guys have a "butt buggery program" and they think this is some wonderful heavenly atmosphere! Notice, the criminals and their allies always want to have the evidence hidden and suppressed. Basically, PADA news has been the main "archives" of all these events. No wonder the perps and their enablers are not happy with that!
OK really! What has been happening is, these folks have been angry that their anal busting of children "guru schools" have been exposed by PADA. And thus they are crying that their child exploiting program has been losing members left, right and center, as mortified parents pulled hundreds of children out of their program -- thanks to our exposing their odious process. As Sulochana also said, "they think that their anus busting sex pooja program -- is ISKCON." So we really had not many other options left, other than to expose them.
In Russia it is evidently the same type thing. Dissent is suppressed, documents and testimony are hidden, and if possible destroyed, and so on. It is what gangster programs do all the time "hide the evidence." The good news is, more and more people are coming out and exposing them anyway. The other good news is, no one can "hide the evidence" from Lord Yamaraja, and thus these evil doers will have to be held accountable in one court -- or another. ys pd]
Friday, February 19, 2021
Public Protest Claiming Temple Authorities Involved in Rape (VIDEO / Mexico)
https://www.facebook.com/madhusudana.das108/videos/888229735360754
[PADA: Well there you have it, contacting the ISKCON GBC with your problem is like "phoning Mars." Said one devotee, "they don't give a crap about us citizens." I dunno, but this looks like a mess. Personally? I tend to believe the victims, since there is a huge and vast pile of them all over the place.
As per usual? People need to protest in public probably because -- protesting inside the institution -- does not make much effect -- evidently. Even recently Bhakti Vikas swami says protesting can be dangerous. Well yep, you can get banned, beat, sued, or shot to death. OK it is a cult and not a bona fide religion. Even BVKS seems to be saying that?
If anyone has more details, inside info etc. of all this send to:
angel108b@yahoo.com
ys pd]
The Story of Baby Bhishma
Ganga carries Baby Bhishma away from King Santanu (by Raja Ravi Varma).
"Happy Bhismastami."
According to the legend, Shantanu, the youngest son of the king Pratipa and the king of Kuru kingdom, was on a hunting trip, when he saw a beautiful woman on the banks of the river Ganga. He fell in love with her and asked her hand in marriage. The lady agreed to his proposal but with one condition that he will never question her actions; and if this condition was broken, she would abandon him.
Shantanu accepted it and lived a happy marital life with her. However, when a child was born, the queen used to drown him in the river Ganga. One by one, seven sons were born and drowned, while Shantanu remained silent because of his commitment. When she was about to throw the eighth child into the river, Shantanu, unable to control himself, stopped her and confronted about her actions. After hearing Shantanu's harsh words, the woman revealed herself to be the goddess Ganga and justified her actions and narrated the following story.
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Once the celestial Vasus and their wives were enjoying themselves in the forest, when the wife of Dyu spotted an excellent cow and asked her husband to steal it. The cow was Nandini, daughter of the wish fulfilling cow Surabhi, and was owned by the sage Vashishtha. With the help of his brothers, Dyu tried to steal it but Vashishtha caught them and cursed them to be born as mortals and suffer a miserable life.
Upon their pleading, Vashishta showed mercy and told the other seven Vasus that they will be liberated soon after their birth. However Dyu being the ring leader protagonist of the theft was cursed to endure a longer life on the earth. Before the birth of her sons, Ganga was requested to kill the seven children soon after their birth.
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Hearing this, Shantanu was filled with grief and regrets and Ganga decided to abandon him as her condition was broken. Before disappearing, she promised Shantanu to return his heir.
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Thursday, February 18, 2021
Institutional Spirituality (Bhakti Vikas Swami Pt. 2) VIDEO
PADA: BVKS says, the upper leaders of ISKCON are engaged in politics, but they won't admit in public, only privately. What? The upper leaders of ISKCON are ALSO being advertised as: Krishna's successor acharyas, gurus, and so-called "self realized members of Krishna's guru parampara."
Great, his "spiritual gurus" are also "into politics." Where does Srila Prabhupada say Krishna's guru successors are -- compared to mundane politicians?
Srila Prabhupada says that persons who think gurus are mundane: gurusuh narah matih -- narakah sah -- are residents of hell. So we are supposed to believe that gurus are also politicians, in order to participate in Bhakti Vikas swami's "institution."
Then he laments -- the people who worship Srila Prabhupada are "the ritvik heresy." So we should not worship the acharya, we should instead worship politicians, or else we are committing heresy? And as a result of ISKCON promoting deviants as gurus, the ISKCON institution is -- failing. And people are losing faith in the ISKCON institution. At the same time, we should hope there will be a "reform from within" -- i.e. gurus are deviants in need of "reform."
If gurus are often deviants -- who need reform -- then why would people have faith in such an institution that promotes deviants as its gurus? We need to worship a guru, who is also a politician, and who may need to be reformed for deviations. And BVKS says many of the leaders are seen as people who "do not follow Srila Prabhupada's vision." And no wonder, the BVKS gurus are often as he says -- tainted by deviated ideas, personal interests, and subtle material motivations. As he admits!
How is it that God's guru successors, are often deviants, in need of reform, and so on? Where is this stated in Srila Prabhupada's works? And he asks, if ISKCON is not delivering, why should I participate in ISKCON -- at all? And we should not point out the defects, we should just preach positively. Except, we have to delineate what is the real path, and what is the false path, because even Srila Prabhupada delineates false gurus from true gurus.
Then BVKS says we should avoid the bad stray dogs full of sores -- like we see in Vrndavana, ummm, because ISKCON's problems are like that too? Hee hee! How did ISKCON come to this fetid dog full of open sores state? Anyway, as usual, he comes up with no actual solutions. BVKS says ISKCON has a lot of mess, but why, how and when did this occur? He does not really say. Worse, he warns, there may be an inquisition, and speaking out can be dangerous. Again, what is that? It is a violent cult, that is all.
Anyway, this is good and bad. BVKS admits that his guru process is mundane, and we may have to face dangers if we speak out against his false gurus. That is honest, to some extent. Then he quotes the story of King Puranjana, that after the guru departs -- there will be chaos. Unfortunately, BVKS has been a supporter of the chaos society.
And now he has no real solution, other than to say, anyone who worships the pure devotee is -- a heretic. Which paints a bull's eye on the worshipers of the acharya to face potential violence from the BVKS process, violence which he admits is a potential. Anyway, we are doing the right thing, we have told people to avoid the BVKS process, and to worship the actual acharya, the whole time. ys pd
Wednesday, February 17, 2021
New Orleans ISKCON Financial Woes Worsen
Dear Prabhus,
I am running this Facebook campaign to help our New Orleans temple. New Talavana was originally purchased by ISKCON of Louisiana, Inc. in 1974 and operated as a Louisiana cooperation doing business in Mississippi. In 1976 they separated and New Talavana School and Community a Mississippi cooperation came to be and later turned over all its assets to ISKCON Mississippi, Inc. and ISKCON Gulf Coast, Inc.
ISKCON Louisiana became International Society for Krishna Consciousness of New Orleans, Inc. Today they are having some financial difficulty. Therefore I am running this Facebook campaign. The money will be posted to ISKCON Mississippi. ISKCON Mississippi will write a check to ISKCON NOLA. Please be as generous as possible and let's get them over this hump.
Yours Truly,
Yogindravandanadas
TP ISKCON Mississippi / BOD ISKCON NOLA
[PADA: Why is there seems to be always millions of dollars on had for lawsuits, and not much left for the temples? Just asking! ys pd]
Upcoming Festival -- Sri Advaita Acharya's Appearance
Upcoming Festival -19th Feb (Fri) -Fast till noon)
Sri Advaita Acharya Appearance day -
To honor Sri Advaita Acharya’s appearance day, we present Srila Prabhupada’s talk about him in Mayapur on April 6, 1975.
advaitam harinadvaitad
acaryam bhakti-samsanat
bhaktavataram isam tam
advaita acaryam asraye
“Because He is nondifferent from Hari, the Supreme Lord, He is called Advaita, and because He propagates the cult of devotion, He is called Acarya. He is the Lord and the incarnation of the Lord’s devotee. Therefore I take shelter of Him.” (Cc Adi 1.13)
So, gradually the author is offering respect: sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda sri-advaita. He has already offered respect to Lord Chaitanya and Lord Nityananda. Now it is the turn for Sri Advaita Acharya. Advaitam: “nondifferent”—He is expansion of Maha-vishnu. He is visnu-tattva. He is not jiva-tattva. Therefore He is Advaita. Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam. Krishna has got unlimited number of expansions—expansions, expansions of the expansions, and then expansions of those expansions, in this way. So Advaita
Acharya is an expansion of Krishna, as already explained. Therefore He is called advaitam.
And acaryam bhakti-samsanat. This is the business of acharya: to spread the bhakti cult. Acaryam mam vijaniyan navamanyeta karhicit. It is said by the Lord, “You should accept the acharya.” Acharya means one who transmits the bhakti cult. Bhakti-samsanat, spreading—gosthy-anandi. One who is not spreading—he is cultivating Krishna consciousness for his personal benefit in a secluded place, sitting and chanting—that is also nice, but he’s not acharya. Acharya means he must spread—gosthy-anandi. Bhajananandi, gosthy-anandi. Generally, gosthy-anandi means one who wants to increase the number of devotees. He’s called gosthy-anandi. And one who is self-satisfied, that “Let me do my own duty,” he is called bhajananandi.
My guru maharaja, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, was a gosthy-anandi; he wanted to increase the number of devotees. And the more you increase the number of devotees, the more you become recognized by Krishna. It is Krishna’s business. Krishna personally comes as He is to spread this bhakti cult.
Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru.
Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja.
He’s canvassing personally.
paritranaya sadhunam
vinasaya ca duskrtam
dharma-samsthapanarthaya
sambhavami yuge yuge
“To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I Myself appear, millennium after millennium.” (Gita 4.8)
So, the same thing is entrusted to another devotee, who spreads—he’s acharya. So Krishna says, the acharya . . . Here it is said, advaitam harinadvaitad. Of course, Advaita Acharya is expansion of visnu-tattva, but any acharya is to be considered identical with the Lord. The Lord says that: acaryam mam vijaniyan—“One should understand the acharya.” Acaryam bhakti-samsanat. Acharya means one who is spreading the pure bhakti cult. “That acharya,” Krishna says, “you should consider as Myself.”
acaryam mam vijaniyan
navamanyeta karhicit
na martya-buddhyasuyeta
sarva-deva-mayo guruh
“One should know the acarya as Myself and never disrespect him in any way. One should not envy him, thinking him an ordinary man, for he is the representative of all the demigods.” (SB 11.17.27, Cc Adi 1.46).
You cannot consider, “Yes, he’s acharya, but not as good as Krishna.” No. Navamanyeta: don’t deride in that way. Then there will be falldown. Acaryam mam vijaniyan navamanyeta karhicit. And in the Vedas also it is said:
yasya deve para bhaktir
yatha deve tatha gurau
tasyaite kathita hy arthah
prakasante mahatmanah
yasya deve para bhaktir
yatha deve tatha gurau
tasyaite kathita hy arthah
prakasante mahatmanah
“Only unto those great souls who have implicit faith in both the Lord and the spiritual master are all the imports of Vedic knowledge automatically revealed.” (Svetasvatara Upanishad 6.23) All the Vedic literature becomes revealed (prakasante) simply by these two principles.
Guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija. We should not jump over to Krishna, without the help of guru. That is not possible. You must go through, because Krishna says, tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuh sreya uttamam: “One who is actually serious to understand higher transcendental subject matter, he must approach guru.” Tasmad gurum prapadyeta. These are Vedic injunctions. Cakhu-dan dilo jei, janme janme prabhu sei. Anyone who opens . . . Guru means one who opens the eyes of the ignorant person.
Guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija. We should not jump over to Krishna, without the help of guru. That is not possible. You must go through, because Krishna says, tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuh sreya uttamam: “One who is actually serious to understand higher transcendental subject matter, he must approach guru.” Tasmad gurum prapadyeta. These are Vedic injunctions. Cakhu-dan dilo jei, janme janme prabhu sei. Anyone who opens . . . Guru means one who opens the eyes of the ignorant person.
Ajnana-timirandhasya jnananjana-salakaya—opening the eyes by giving real knowledge. Guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija. The bhakti-lata, the seed of devotional service, can be received by the parampara system through a bona fide spiritual master. And if we abide by the orders of spiritual master faithfully, then Krishna becomes pleased. That is stated by Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura: yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadah. Ar na koriho mane asa—Narottama dasa. All the acharyas say like that.
Acaryavan puruso veda: “One who has accepted acharya, he knows things as they are.” Others, they do not know; it is not possible. So Advaita Acharya is the typical example of how to become acharya. All are our acharyas: sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda. All of them are acharyas because they are following the supreme acharya, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. Therefore they are acharyas. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh.
So, we have to follow the acharya. Then, when you are completely, cent percent, follower of acharya, then you can also act as acharya. This is the process. Don’t become premature acharya. First of all, follow the orders of acharya and become mature. Then it is better to become acharya. We are interested in preparing acharyas, but the etiquette is, at least for the period when the guru is present, one should not become acharya.
Acaryavan puruso veda: “One who has accepted acharya, he knows things as they are.” Others, they do not know; it is not possible. So Advaita Acharya is the typical example of how to become acharya. All are our acharyas: sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda. All of them are acharyas because they are following the supreme acharya, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. Therefore they are acharyas. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh.
So, we have to follow the acharya. Then, when you are completely, cent percent, follower of acharya, then you can also act as acharya. This is the process. Don’t become premature acharya. First of all, follow the orders of acharya and become mature. Then it is better to become acharya. We are interested in preparing acharyas, but the etiquette is, at least for the period when the guru is present, one should not become acharya.
Even if he is complete, he should not, because the etiquette is if somebody comes for becoming initiated, it is the duty of such person to bring that prospective candidate to his acharya, not that “Now people are coming to me, so I can become acharya.” That is avamanya. Navamanyeta karhicit. Don’t transgress this etiquette. Navamanyeta. That will be falldown. Just like during the lifetime of our guru maharaja, all our godbrothers who are now acting as acharya, they did not do so. That is not etiquette. Acaryam mam vijaniyan navamanyeta. That is insult.
If you insult your acharya, then you are finished. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasado yasyaprasadan na gatih kuto ’pi—finished. If you displease your acharya, then you are finished. Therefore it is said—Chaitanya Mahaprabhu says to all the acharyas . . . Nityananda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, and Srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda, they are all carriers of orders of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
So, try to follow the path of acharya process. Then life will be successful. And to become acharya is not very difficult. First of all, become a very faithful servant of your acharya: follow strictly what he says and try to please him and spread Krishna consciousness. That’s all. It is not at all difficult. Try to follow the instruction of your guru maharaja and spread Krishna consciousness.
So, try to follow the path of acharya process. Then life will be successful. And to become acharya is not very difficult. First of all, become a very faithful servant of your acharya: follow strictly what he says and try to please him and spread Krishna consciousness. That’s all. It is not at all difficult. Try to follow the instruction of your guru maharaja and spread Krishna consciousness.
That is the order of Lord Chaitanya. Amara ajnaya guru hana tara’ ei desa, yare dekha tare kaha ‘krsna’-upadesa: “By following My order, you become guru.” And if we strictly follow the acharya system and try our best to spread the instruction of Krishna . . . Yare dekha tare kaha ‘krsna’-upadesa. There are two kinds of krsna-upadesa. Upadesa means instruction. Instruction given by Krishna, that is krsna-upadesa, and instruction received about Krishna, that is also krsna-upadesa. Krsnasya upadesa iti krsna-upadesa. Samasa, sasti-tat-purusa-samasa.
And krsna visaya upadesa, that is also Krishna upadesa. Bahu-vrihi-samasa. This is the way of analyzing Sanskrit grammar. So Krishna’s upadesa is Bhagavad-gita. He’s directly giving instruction.
So, those who are spreading krsna-upadesa, simply repeat what is said by Krishna. Then you become acharya. Not difficult at all. Everything is stated there. We have to simply repeat like parrot. Not exactly parrot. Parrot does not understand the meaning; he simply vibrates. But you should understand the meaning also. Otherwise, how you can explain? So, we want to spread Krishna consciousness. Simply prepare yourself how to repeat Krishna’s instructions very nicely, without any malinterpretation. Then, in future . . . Suppose now you have got ten thousand. We shall expand to hundred thousand. That is required. Then hundred thousand to million, and million to ten million.
So, those who are spreading krsna-upadesa, simply repeat what is said by Krishna. Then you become acharya. Not difficult at all. Everything is stated there. We have to simply repeat like parrot. Not exactly parrot. Parrot does not understand the meaning; he simply vibrates. But you should understand the meaning also. Otherwise, how you can explain? So, we want to spread Krishna consciousness. Simply prepare yourself how to repeat Krishna’s instructions very nicely, without any malinterpretation. Then, in future . . . Suppose now you have got ten thousand. We shall expand to hundred thousand. That is required. Then hundred thousand to million, and million to ten million.
Devotees: Jaya!
Srila Prabhupada: So, there will be no scarcity of acharya, and people will understand Krishna consciousness very easily. So, make that organization. Don’t be falsely puffed up. Follow the acharya’s instruction and try to make yourself perfect, mature. Then it will be very easy to fight maya. Yes, acharyas declare war against maya’s activities. Maya is instructing, “Here is wine, here is cigarette, here is . . .” In your country these advertisements are very prominent—wine advertisement, cigarette advertisement, naked woman advertisement, and sometimes also gambling advertisement. What is that? Congo?
Devotees: Bingo.
Srila Prabhupada: Bingo. Yes. So, this is maya. And our declaration of war against maya—no intoxication, no meat-eating, no bingo. This is our declaration of war. So, we have to fight in that way, because nobody can understand Krishna without being free from all sinful activities. These are sinful activities. Therefore it is the acharya’s business to stop these nonsense activities. Otherwise they’ll not be able to understand, especially the meat-eaters. They cannot understand.
nivrtta-tarsair upagiyamanad
bhavausadhac chrotra-mano-’bhiramat
ka uttamasloka-gunanuvadat
puman virajyeta vina pasughnat
“Glorification of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is performed in the parampara system; that is, it is conveyed from spiritual master to disciple. Such glorification is relished by those no longer interested in the false, temporary glorification of this cosmic manifestation. Descriptions of the Lord are the right medicine for the conditioned soul undergoing repeated birth and death. Therefore, who will cease hearing such glorification of the Lord except one who is killing animals or one who is killing his own self?” (SB 10.1.4)
Srila Prabhupada: So, there will be no scarcity of acharya, and people will understand Krishna consciousness very easily. So, make that organization. Don’t be falsely puffed up. Follow the acharya’s instruction and try to make yourself perfect, mature. Then it will be very easy to fight maya. Yes, acharyas declare war against maya’s activities. Maya is instructing, “Here is wine, here is cigarette, here is . . .” In your country these advertisements are very prominent—wine advertisement, cigarette advertisement, naked woman advertisement, and sometimes also gambling advertisement. What is that? Congo?
Devotees: Bingo.
Srila Prabhupada: Bingo. Yes. So, this is maya. And our declaration of war against maya—no intoxication, no meat-eating, no bingo. This is our declaration of war. So, we have to fight in that way, because nobody can understand Krishna without being free from all sinful activities. These are sinful activities. Therefore it is the acharya’s business to stop these nonsense activities. Otherwise they’ll not be able to understand, especially the meat-eaters. They cannot understand.
nivrtta-tarsair upagiyamanad
bhavausadhac chrotra-mano-’bhiramat
ka uttamasloka-gunanuvadat
puman virajyeta vina pasughnat
“Glorification of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is performed in the parampara system; that is, it is conveyed from spiritual master to disciple. Such glorification is relished by those no longer interested in the false, temporary glorification of this cosmic manifestation. Descriptions of the Lord are the right medicine for the conditioned soul undergoing repeated birth and death. Therefore, who will cease hearing such glorification of the Lord except one who is killing animals or one who is killing his own self?” (SB 10.1.4)
Unless one is very expert in killing animals, he is not bereft of Krishna consciousness. That means one who is very expert in killing, he cannot understand. Therefore Christ also said, “Thou shall not kill”—the first business. Nobody will be able if one is a killer of animals, small or big—ultimately killer of his own children, killer of his own self. The killing process is so nice that it goes up to the point of killing one’s children.
That is now happening. The killing business has so expanded that they are killing their own children. Just see the influence of Kali-yuga. The children take shelter of the father and mother, thinking themselves very safe. Now, in this Kali-yuga, there is no safety even under the care of father and mother. Just see how this material civilization is progressing. Very, very dangerous. Kalau nasta-drsam. Therefore that Bhagavata verse is there:
krsne sva-dhamopagate
dharma-jnanadibhih saha
kalau nasta-drsam esa
puranarko ’dhunoditah
krsne sva-dhamopagate
dharma-jnanadibhih saha
kalau nasta-drsam esa
puranarko ’dhunoditah
“This Bhagavata Purana is as brilliant as the sun, and it has arisen just after the departure of Lord Krsna to His own abode, accompanied by religion, knowledge, etc. Persons who have lost their vision due to the dense darkness of ignorance in the age of Kali shall get light from this Purana.”
Very, very abominable condition in this age of Kali—very, very. It is the beginning of Kali. Now we have to pass through 427,000 years. Kali-yuga will make progress in that way. And people are now practicing eating their children, and at the end of Kali there will be no food available. They’ll have to eat the children, like the snakes do. The snakes eat their own children.
There are many animals who eat their own children. So, don’t try to repeat your birth again and again in this Kali-yuga. It will be not very happy life. Better sacrifice everything in this life and be fully Krishna conscious and go back home, back to Godhead. Don’t wait for the next life. This is very seriously repeated, that “This life I shall finish my Krishna consciousness business.” And as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, Krishna consciousness business means to understand Krishna rightly. And He’s explaining Himself rightly.
Where is the difficulty to finish the Krishna consciousness business? If Krishna is explaining Himself—what He is—then where is your difficulty? Krishna is explaining Himself in the Bhagavad-gita, Krishna is sending His representative, acharya, to teach you, and Krishna is within you trying to teach you, if you are actually serious. Then where is the difficulty? Inside, outside, all ways—books, knowledge—He is prepared.
So where is the difficulty to make yourself perfect in Krishna consciousness? There is no difficulty at all. Provided you are serious, you can become fully Krishna conscious in this lifetime.
So where is the difficulty to make yourself perfect in Krishna consciousness? There is no difficulty at all. Provided you are serious, you can become fully Krishna conscious in this lifetime.
Devotee Stabbing Victim Requires Assistance
https://www.gofundme.com/f/kalavatis-care-and-recovery-fund?
[PADA: Why does it continue to appear that the big shot leaders of ISKCON have an unlimited personal health, welfare and "recovery fund" while -- evidently -- very few of the citizens seem to have much, or any? ys pd]
Tuesday, February 16, 2021
Bill Gates: "Synthetic Beef" To Solve World Hunger
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/bill-gates-synthetic-beef-meat-book-b1803088.html
PADA: "Plant based protein," yep this would help the planet. Certainly it would reduce animal slaughter. The way things are going now does not bode well for the future, something dramatic needs to be done. And soon! ys pd
Monday, February 15, 2021
Jadurani Dasi -- Narayan Maharaja's "No Kalki Avatar"
Lord Vishnu's Incarnation as Kalki
I first met Srila Narayana Maharaj about seven years ago, at the Rupa Sanatana Gaudiya Math, his temple near Seva Kunja in Vrndavan. Since that time I'd always strongly felt Srila Prabhupada's presence when ever I met Srila Maharaja. His answers to any of my questions seemed as brilliant and astounding as those of Srila Prabhupada, and everything he said gave me new insight into Srila Prabhupada's books.
[PADA: Well yep, Narayan Maharaja was always hanging out with Tamal, Sivarama, Indradyumna, Giriraja, Satsvarupa and various other leaders of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. And while many devotees of ISKCON are being banned, beaten, molested, sued and assassinated, NM is giving the leaders of that program "gopi rasika classes."
Yep, let us put deviants and even pedophiles in the acharya's seat, and call that "rasika." And Jadurani thinks this is "a new insight"? No it is nothing new, it is called advocating for sexual predators posing as Krishna's successors, and it is a deviation happens all the time in Kali Yuga.
NM people were advertising some certificate from the city of Houston, glorifying NM. Well yes, he is in Houston helping Tamal prop up their pedophile guru lineage. Otherwise he had no facility there, he was a guest of Tamal.]
After several meetings with him, therefore, I was so overwhelmed that I asked him, "Can I understand that when you tell me something, that it is Srila Prabhupada telling me through you?" With a soft smile he answered, "if you have got that faith." And daily my faith became stronger and stronger.
[PADA: Seems to be the whole problem. Narayan Maharaja had faith in Tamal, and went to Texas to prop up Tamal. Tamal used to lecture openly "my two favorite people are Narayan Maharaja, and Bhavananda." So Tamal is being propped up by NM, and that props up the whole GBC guru scheme. Ok that means NM has been a big cheer leader for the molester messiah's club.]
One thing he said, however, I couldn't reconcile.
[PADA: Narayan Maharaja was Tamal's BFF pal, confidential associate, promoter, cheer leader, advocate, "shiksha guru," "rasika guru," and all the rest of it. And yet there is only one thing we cannot reconcile? Seems there is a boat load of things we cannot reconcile?]
Glorified by Radhanath Maharaja?
Still tethered together?
Srila Maharaja mentioned a few times that in this age of Kali, Kalki avatar doesn't come. Maharaja would quote Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur, who had said that "because Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu came in this particular Kali Yuga, this Kali Yuga is called Dhanya Kali, blessed Kali." Although in other Kali Yugas Kalki does come, in this one He doesn't.
[PADA: Lord Kalki will not come in 428,000 years because Lord Chaitanya made a golden age, supposedly for 10,000 years. After that, the world falls into cannibals and criminals roaming everywhere. What difference does it make that the next 10,000 years might have some relief, when Kalki comes way after the relief era? There is no evident connection between the golden age and the period long after that when Kalki appears? I for one believe Kalki will appear because it makes perfect sense, Krishna will want to clean things up, and that is one of the methods he uses.
Meanwhile people like Narayan Maharaja and his pals like Radhanath have messed up the good period of 10,000 years, by tossing in their idea worship of illicit sex with men, women and children into -- what they have alleged is -- Krishna's guru parampara. They worked as hard as they could to destroy the Golden Age by contaminating it, and even, burying pedophiles in samadhi in the dham etc. Yep, we need to be glorified by the people who bury pedophiles in the dham -- because sensible and moral people -- will not glorify our program.]
On one hand I had no doubts in Srila Maharaj, but on the other hand I still could not reconcile the apparent difference in Srila Prabhupada's statement. For years I had been hearing the cassette tape of Srila Prabhupada singing "Sri Dasavatar-Stotram" by Sri Jayadeva Goswami, " Kesava! dhrta-Kalki-sarira jaya jadadisa hare." Then, in his purport to the song, Srila Prabhupada had explained that at the end of Kali Yuga there will be no preaching because people will be too degraded and sinful to understand Krsna Conscious philosophy.
So Kalki comes, not to preach, but to kill all the sinners and usher in the next Satya Yuga. In a humble way I told this to Srila Maharaj and he answered, "Not in this Kali Yuga. He won't come. But if he comes, no harm; he will be raising his arms and chanting 'Hari Bol! Hari Bol!' in Mahaprabhu's sankirtan movement."
[PADA: Yes, we will all be going "hari bol" at the time when people are eating other people ...???]
So I let it go. I had faith in both Srila Prabhupada and Srila Maharaja. Diksa Guru and Siksa Guru are one.
[PADA: Where does Srila Prabhupada say we have to help Tamal promote his pedophile guru lineage?]
Srila Prabhupada is both my diksa and siksa guru and Srila Maharaja is my siksaguru. I knew that when Srila Prabhupada wanted to, he would show me how to reconcile the apparent contradiction.
[PADA: There is no contradiction to reconcile, NM is wrong on guru tattva, jeeva tattva, and Krishna tattva.]
Sorry! We just need read one sloka from Srila Prabhupadas books:
Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 1.3.25
athāsau yuga-sandhyāyāḿ
dasyu-prāyeṣu rājasu
janitā viṣṇu-yaśaso
nāmnā kalkir jagat-patiḥ
dasyu-prāyeṣu rājasu
janitā viṣṇu-yaśaso
nāmnā kalkir jagat-patiḥ
SYNONYMS
atha — thereafter; asau — the same Lord; yuga-sandhyāyām — at the conjunction of the yugas; dasyu — plunderers; prāyeṣu — almost all; rājasu — the governing personalities; janitā — will take His birth; viṣṇu — named Viṣṇu; yaśasaḥ — surnamed Yaśā; nāmnā — in the name of; kalkiḥ — the incarnation of the Lord; jagat-patiḥ — the Lord of the creation.
atha — thereafter; asau — the same Lord; yuga-sandhyāyām — at the conjunction of the yugas; dasyu — plunderers; prāyeṣu — almost all; rājasu — the governing personalities; janitā — will take His birth; viṣṇu — named Viṣṇu; yaśasaḥ — surnamed Yaśā; nāmnā — in the name of; kalkiḥ — the incarnation of the Lord; jagat-patiḥ — the Lord of the creation.
TRANSLATION
Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Viṣṇu Yaśā. At this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers.
PURPORT
Here is another foretelling of the advent of Lord Kalki, the incarnation of Godhead. He is to appear at the conjunction of the two yugas, namely at the end of Kali-yuga and the beginning of Satya-yuga. The cycle of the four yugas, namely Satya, Tretā, Dvāpara and Kali, rotates like the calendar months. The present Kali-yuga lasts 432,000 years, out of which we have passed only 5,000 years after the Battle of Kurukṣetra and the end of the regime of King Parīkṣit.
So there are 427,000 years balance yet to be finished. Therefore at the end of this period, the incarnation of Kalki will take place, as foretold in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. The name of His father, Viṣṇu Yaśā, a learned brāhmaṇa, and the village Śambhala are also mentioned. As above mentioned, all these foretellings will prove to be factual in chronological order. That is the authority of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.