tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post7278865368377978180..comments2024-03-28T18:26:53.256-07:00Comments on krishna1008: Bogus guru's -- "Tell a Lie So Big, -- No One Will Doubt It."krishna1008http://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-18162758717346571972013-11-25T09:38:16.351-08:002013-11-25T09:38:16.351-08:00Just for reminding what Hitler created - huge war ...Just for reminding what Hitler created - huge war machine for mass destruction<br />http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d1a_1385299477 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-77464446576954358892013-11-24T21:43:22.765-08:002013-11-24T21:43:22.765-08:00I have not changed the subject. I said that the pe...I have not changed the subject. I said that the people who supported and almost worshiped Hitler were the Christians in Germany. The Hindus were not all goose stepping around him, and saluting him, they knew Hitler was a ego-maniac. <br /><br />If your religion is Christian, then deviated parts your own religion worshiped Hitler, not the Hindus.You have not told us what religion you are supporting? I think the reason you are not admitting your religion is because you are part of the religion whose German cult-like off-shoot supported Hitler.<br /><br />We cannot reply to your post unless you identify what you yourself stand for and support, because we have no idea what you do support. Otherwise it has no meaning, you are against everything and for -- nothing? <br /><br />You have to tell us what is the right idea, not just that you do not agree with our idea, otherwise this is called neti neti, you disagree with everything and support zero. That is not a valid point even in karmi debates, you cannot chop down the other side only, and not make your own points of what you do support. Unless you tell us what you do support, you are a zero. You would not be allowed in a karmi debate even, you cannot attack only and not support anything, its not allowed. Tell us what you support and then we can take it from there, otherwise arguing against zero has no value to anyone. ys pdkrishna1008https://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-16265438842062516632013-11-24T17:06:14.311-08:002013-11-24T17:06:14.311-08:00Thanks for your suggested post, yes, if we wanted ...Thanks for your suggested post, yes, if we wanted to remove the religion that supported Hitler, we would have to get rid of Christianity, at least in Germany. Of course various so-called Christians also supported Mussolini and many other dictators. We'd have to get rid of Christianity in many places if we blamed their religion for support of dictators. <br /><br />Then again the neo-nazis in the southern usa claim at least to be Christians. And lets not forget who started slavery in the USA. So if we wanted to blame religion for all these evils, it would never end. <br /><br />And its true that the British were expert at propaganda, they had taken over giant areas of the world by military force. And in the process, they messed up or destroyed indigenous cultures. And of course the American Indians were more or less wiped out after the British "took over." Ooops, they were also supposedly Christians. <br /><br />And the British populace always felt this mass exploiting was good, due to propaganda. <br /><br />The German Church fully backed Hitler, and elevated him to near messiah status. Srila Prabhupada said, Hitler was great man like Hiranyakasipu, that means, he was saying Hitler is a demon. Yes, powerful demons can do a lot of damage. <br /><br />In India many people appreciated Hitler because he knocked down the power that had taken over India, namely Britain. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, as the saying goes. Srila Prabhupada ultimately said, we do not read about Hitler, he is not important for what we are doing. In any case, if we wanted to blame "religion" for backing bad leaders, it would never end. <br /><br />And India has had no shortage of problems with their leaders, and cultural problems like mass abortion of female babies and so on. You could blame the religion, but they are not following their religion? <br /><br />The people who attacked the Jews in the inquisition, who made the Crusades, who killed off the Aztecs, who attacked and took over India, and took over half the planet in the name of the British empire, were the so-called Christians. Srila Prabhupada never addressed this much because, he was not trying to alienate the Christians, but its a fact, their history is filled with more exploitation than any other so-called religion.<br /><br />So, blaming the religion is a little silly, we have to see if the people follow the religion first of all. So if we are not supposed to read and discuss Hitler, then we should not. At the same time, if we did discuss Hitler, we would then have to ask, who supported him? It was ultimately the so-called Christians, but yes its true that the 1940s Hindus were glad for his help to drive the British out of their land, but they did not actually see Hitler as the sort of messianic leader as he was being viewed in Germany at the time. Hitler was seen as a counterpoint to drive out the British, and he did help on that count. <br /><br />Then again the USA has been blamed for backing all kinds of dictators, and they have done so, but whether that represents real Christianity is another thing. Anyway 1930s Germany was a cult off-shoot of the Christians, and not bona fide Christianity. <br /><br />Some ex-devotees now Christians are complaining to PADA about Hitler, well, he is the result of deviations in their religion, not ours? Their religion made Hitler a messianic leader, not ours? They better go look at their own religion, and its centuries of exploiting others, before attacking other religions, they need to address their own. ys pd krishna1008https://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-70950313609633776212013-11-23T23:09:27.620-08:002013-11-23T23:09:27.620-08:00Ok, this is getting weird, remember Schindler'...Ok, this is getting weird, remember Schindler's List from Steven Spielberg?<br />Authorities figure that Mathias Sabji (Heinz Schindler) is Jewish and can't be prosecuted. On the other hand people in general will be fooled that Prabhupada was teaching Hitler's ideas. In any case, what can be done. Majority of modern Vaishnavas are nazi freaks? Mathias Sabji: http://i42.tinypic.com/25tvm3a.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-30056147261101850792013-11-23T22:35:53.305-08:002013-11-23T22:35:53.305-08:00PADA: Unfortunately there is a lot of resentment t...PADA: Unfortunately there is a lot of resentment towards many of the original disciples of Srila Prabhupada. And even more unfortunately, we tend to understand why. A few leaders deviated (commission) and not hardly anyone protested (ommission). And so the movement went haywire and created a lot of victims, including some of the children of the original disciples. <br /><br />As one devotee described to us, "A few pirates hijacked the ship, then the ship's crew went off in the lifeboats, and left the rest of the passengers to die in the sinking ship. And most of the original disciples did not even care that ISKCON was sinking all along, and they care even less now." <br /><br />Thats about the opinion of many. <br /><br />At the same time, the only cure for any -- all -- of these problems is to get back to Krishna's and Srila Prabhupada's original process for being a devotee of God. There will be no other "fix" for the mess other than to get back to their original process, <br /><br />Anyway, the above writer is correct, time and tide wait for no one, and most of the original disciples are on their way out, or are already out. Time will work to gradually eliminate the whole group, but that does not necessarily mean life will be a bowl of pie and ice cream easy for those who remain. There will still be challenges and problems. The only good news is, these leaders will not be a problem anymore. <br /><br />The bad news is, the leaders have created a lot of problems that will take a lot of work to get ahead of. Anyway, we wish the future generations well, and we wish them the best of progress and luck. Hopefully, they will learn from all the mistakes of our generation, and they will avoid these mistakes for their generation. ys pd krishna1008https://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-52048295015780666992013-11-23T21:59:39.550-08:002013-11-23T21:59:39.550-08:00Oprah Winfrey has been to one of our temples. She ...Oprah Winfrey has been to one of our temples. She made a statement recently that the white people who are raised prejudiced from birth are just going to have to die out. They will not change.<br /><br />The Greedy Bastard's Club, so called "Gurus", and "Stalwart Prabhupada Disciples" in the same way must all have to die out as a whole before anything good can happen in ISKCON. It is happening already, and it brings joy to me every time I hear one of those old geezers leaves their bodies. All glories to old age and Lord Krishna who comes in the form of death to save His devotees from those who abuse them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-38003271216123514342013-11-23T07:37:48.079-08:002013-11-23T07:37:48.079-08:00PADA: Mathias now says that those of us who are no...PADA: Mathias now says that those of us who are not promoting his neo-Nazi ideas are severe offenders and we should be arrested by the police, and have our teeth knocked out. Umm, that is what the Gestapo did in the 1940s? He has now officially put on his jackboots.<br /><br />In the 1930s - 1940s, anyone in Germany who did not promote Mathias's neo-Nazi program was arrested by the police and had their teeth knocked out. And he says we are bad for attacking the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Pancali program, because they are helping him attack the Jews with their Illuminati de facto Nazi program. <br /><br />OK, has anyone not yet figured out, it is no longer 1940? Sorry, the mass of public is simply not going to accept these Illumi-Nazi-ness folks. Its just not going to take off! Sorry to have to be the one who has burst your guys little bubble here. Take off your jackboots, and watch some re-runs of I Love Lucy, you guys need to slow down. The good news is, these people are losing credibility everywhere. People are also writing us privately saying these folks are just as bad, or worse, than the GBC gurus. ys pdkrishna1008https://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-81430974317106535662013-11-23T06:28:58.469-08:002013-11-23T06:28:58.469-08:00"to speak in public about the Nazi ideas"..."to speak in public about the Nazi ideas"<br /><br />When news media finds out that in secret Hare Krishnas figure that Nazis were doing fine than what will happen? Western nations will simply kick them out faster than you think. News media always look for headlines. As soon they start a global campaign something like HARE KRISHNAS CONSIDER HITLER AS GREAT - then just imagine what happens. Western nations all have Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, lawyers in constitutional law, department of public prosecution, etc. In sum, this might throw back the global Sankirtan movement. First we had bad propaganda of begging monks doin all kind of criminal fraudulence. Then came the huge era of cheating gurus who spoil the lices of thousands. Next, Hare Krishnas are worshipers of the Hitler regime. Hm, at one point people figure, what the heck these folks should be escorted to West Bengal never to come to the West? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-40880435762609302592013-11-22T22:29:15.558-08:002013-11-22T22:29:15.558-08:00Hansadutta should wake up and speak against these ...Hansadutta should wake up and speak against these deviant fools. He still seems a hippie who let it all happen. Mathias Sabji (Urdhvargha das ) was his main secretary. When seeing this man doing so many crazy things Hansadutta should stand up and tell this coward to refrain from doing mischief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-49443384265441131062013-11-22T21:43:53.347-08:002013-11-22T21:43:53.347-08:00Most people do remember Hansadutta in a bad way. H...Most people do remember Hansadutta in a bad way. He caused so much pain to so many people. As bad as he is, he is not that stupid as the Mathias person to speak in public about the the Nazi ideas. Good news is, normal people will not be attracted to this race bait idea of the Third Reich, its pretty dead idea these days. Hansadutta read about these things, but at least he never spoke open public that this is the right idea. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-26969417995793356752013-11-22T19:04:51.921-08:002013-11-22T19:04:51.921-08:00I had the ill fortune of seeing Hansadutta one tim...I had the ill fortune of seeing Hansadutta one time only. He walked through the temple and asked me if I would surrender to him or to someone else. I told him I had already heard about his antics and would never surrender to him. He then THREATENED me by telling me to keep it to myself or I would see what further antics he can do to people TO ME PERSONALLY! Such an offender has no place in any position in Lord Krishna's temples. These former gurus are so hungry for position. He used his position to have sex with women and take drugs, go crazy and shoot things and make money by illegal means. We do NOT need people like that in ISKCON. Not in any way. Only if he is censored by the Gbc to be allowed to come to Janmastami once a year would I welcome him, and only if he wore a sign the whole time around his neck saying "I'm sorry for being such a sinful rascal" then I might be able to tolerate this fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-78124069296951698892013-11-22T15:59:34.253-08:002013-11-22T15:59:34.253-08:00I also have seen Mathias writing, you are right, h...I also have seen Mathias writing, you are right, he wants the new Third Reich to rise again. Problem is, he is making Krishna devotees look foolish and racist. What an idiot. Yes, even Hansadutta is not behind his program, its too crazy even for him. Good job exposing these bodily illusion fools in dress of devotees. This is the last thing we devotees need right now, bad publicity in the shape of re-boot of WW II Germany. This Mathias is so foolish, its beyond our imagination, but there are many fools like him with same idea over there, they never understood they lost the war. And now their idea is not welcome in civilized society. They still think its 1935. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-19596206405184467062013-11-22T06:42:31.843-08:002013-11-22T06:42:31.843-08:00It is time to unmask this dubious "Mathias Sa...It is time to unmask this dubious "Mathias Sabji" who is it actually?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-31265427424974655502013-11-22T00:23:31.680-08:002013-11-22T00:23:31.680-08:00Thanks, great article!
Hansadutta wants a come b...Thanks, great article! <br /><br />Hansadutta wants a come back. Since 20 years he lives incognito in underground condition? Now he cant restrain himself any longer? Agreed, he has leadership ability, management skills. People naturally figure he is a big gun.<br />Now it seems he wants specific conditions for his return. Those who are not his men have to leave? Reminds of his early days when Hamsaduta couldnt deal with so many other devotees? Anywhere where Hamsaduta would set up his headquarter immediately there were two camps. This is called polarizing personality/character what is kind of problematic for good leadership. Agreed, Vaishnavism is all about following superior authority. However, when it comes to leaders who have a long list of previous scandals, isn't it a better idea to have those leaders elected by the Vaishnava congregation? Thanks for any idea!<br />Prabhupada: Therefore the botheration came, in Germany. Hamsaduta was waiting for sending the money for food distribution. In the meantime, they created trouble. The main business in Germany is to reply the charges and rescue the frozen money.<br /><br />Disciple: " Prabhupada has been especially encouraging Hansaduta Maharaja to help improve things. However, he is not putting him officially in charge. He is not very convinced of his ability to manage nicely because of all the complaints from Germany. He wants to see what Hansaduta is able to do first. As he told him: "First manage, then take charge.""<br /><br />Prabhupada, letter to disciple: In his last letter, Hamsaduta said as follows: I am exhausted, my brain is exhausted, I do not know what to do, so you can just tell me what I should do and I shall do that . . . I cannot understand your mind or actions, I do not know what you divine grace wants, or what you want from me. So, at this moment I am just going to sit and chant till I hear from you, because everything till now has come out wrong, so please just instruct me what to do.<br /><br />Letter to Brahmananda: Hamsaduta was giving stress to selling records using all tricks, by any means. The incident in Germany has caused havoc all over the world. It is hampering our reputation everywhere.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com