tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post4465429629085184913..comments2024-03-28T18:26:53.256-07:00Comments on krishna1008: Discussion on Prabhavishnu falldownkrishna1008http://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-1208427000452585982012-01-16T01:21:38.850-08:002012-01-16T01:21:38.850-08:00Ex-ISKCONites commenting
_________________________...Ex-ISKCONites commenting<br />______________________________________________________________<br /><br />Homer: Will the Great Devotee™ give back the money he scammed out of his flock?<br /><br />I personally know a devotee who bought him a house in Vrindavan and gave him hundreds of thousands of dollars. How many other fools gave this person large amounts of cash? He must be set for his retirement with his Thai lady in paradise.<br />Let's see how genuine his remorse is when he hands over the cash.<br />Do any of these bastards resign on their own accord because of personal shame or do the Transcendental Personalities™ who have appearance days rather than birthdays have to be busted before they fess up and step down? <br />_____________________________________________________________<br /><br />Darwin:Prabhavishnu Swami VyasaPuja Sadhu-Sanga 2011 part 7<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD37AS0qoG4&feature=player_embedded<br /><br />Prabhavishnu's youtube channel:<br />http://www.youtube.com/user/RadhavallabhaPVS/videos<br />___________________________________________________________<br /><br />ZVS: Are we sure she's an actual prostitute, or is this just devotee slang for a female whose morality does not constrain sexual activity to procreation by a married couple?<br /><br />If she is a prostitute, he would have paid for her with disciples' money, correct? They must feel how I feel when I realize my tax money has helped fund U.S. wars. <br />________________________________________________________<br /><br />Dhyana: Hello zvs, long time no see! Good to see you around!<br /><br />Regarding Prabhavisnu... I have only vague memories of him. So nondescript he seemed. No clear contours, at least from my vantage point which was never very close.<br /><br />Not cool for the disciples, to be let down like that -- but at least for them, it could be empowering, in the best case. It could be an eye opener about the the path they are on.<br /><br />It might be worse for Prabhavisnu himself. He and the other gurus are elderly men now. They joined young, and with a lot of enthusiasm otherwise they would have not gotten a name for themselves and the guru stamp of approval. They may have had interesting, colorful lives as gurus, with teaching and counseling challenges, admiration, travel, a place in the spotlight, and relative luxury (compared to the general ISKCON; I don't think they had too much opportunity to really enjoy the money they were given).<br /><br />But now... how old are these men on average? 65? Not much life left. They have risked a lot for spiritual progress. They renounced a lot, regardless the comfort. And now the whole enterprise is blowing up in their faces! Now when it is too late to change course and accomplish something else meaningful with your life. Left to deal with a mountain of shame and guilt (I assume they are not devoid of conscience).<br /><br />I think they are paying dearly for errors of judgment they made in an institution that set them up for erring.<br /><br />I imagine they are a bunch of sad, spent guys. Hope they can find some way to live their last years well. And some way to manage their thoughts and beliefs. It must be hellish to be Prabhavisnu if he still believes much of what Prabhupada has taught.<br /><br />Thai ladies who get together with Western men can be anything from prostitutes, call girls, holiday girlfriends, to wives. But it is very common the relationship is based on the man providing financial support to the woman or her relatives. It doesn't mean she isn't a nice person who really cares for the guy. But it isn't romantic love as we in the rich West think of it. Especially not if the man is Prabhavisnu's age.rmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01022640659150823129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-72150179201657530362012-01-15T23:30:13.822-08:002012-01-15T23:30:13.822-08:00Since ISKCONites are stuck on the level of persona...Since ISKCONites are stuck on the level of personal interest they hardly can grasp the meaning of general welfare. Whenever a scandal gets public they are helplessly tossed back and forth, become a play of the waves of material energy. So basically nothing will change. Just like sometimes an entire chicken house is in an uproar, with chickens flying about, squawking, and clucking, and crystal yelling. Soon there will be peace again. ISKCONites are slow and unteachable so be sure, it will happen again. But meanwhile daily routine will return...things go back to normal.rmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01022640659150823129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-89301435859363502972012-01-15T20:03:16.539-08:002012-01-15T20:03:16.539-08:00Dear Niscala,
You err when you state that he hurt...Dear Niscala,<br /><br />You err when you state that he hurt no one but himself.<br /><br />You can't be serious.<br /><br />Usually you are on the ball, but here you have dropped it.<br /><br />Look around and hear the anguished cries of the cheated disciples who slaved to serve and fund their 'guru', all the while he was cruising in Thailand.<br /><br />Will he return our money? Now that would show some REAL remorse. He has been living off us for DECADES. Our families shed blood collecting for him!<br /><br />And what do we hear? Not a tiny sound from Prabhavisnu of any attempt at restitution. This is the offensive mentality. When a false guru falls away, we become soooo concerned. <br /><br />Well, what about the congregation!<br /><br />Your concerns are misplaced. Don't forget about the cheated ranks.<br /><br />And what does he do? He tells us to repose our faith in the very same GBC body he himself blames for his predicament! No talk of repaying our money. Maybe we can then spend it on Krsna!<br /><br />Who paid for his houses? How much money does he have in the bank?<br /><br />Certainly you can see that the rank and file are also suffering because of his actions, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com