tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post4204735941739069322..comments2024-03-27T16:45:50.376-07:00Comments on krishna1008: Hansadutta das: on the Poison Issue krishna1008http://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-9743608125840004872014-04-15T18:32:27.684-07:002014-04-15T18:32:27.684-07:00Anyone else in ISKCON has done better service than...Anyone else in ISKCON has done better service than Hansadutta? Simply not getting into making ISKCON look as gangster machine gun MAFIA, they did better service than his service. He thinks making ISKCON into his private machine gun guru worship is great service? To whom? Its great service to maya and Satan, not to Krishna. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-47952839552795944022014-04-15T18:14:09.491-07:002014-04-15T18:14:09.491-07:00I know some ex-disciples of "HDG Hansadutta M...I know some ex-disciples of "HDG Hansadutta Maharaja" that would not hesitate to snatch him right out of his body and throw him flat on the floor of the court room of Lord Yamaraja! Nothing he says is reliable. He's nothing but a big disgrace and disappointment to Srila Prabhupada. There's one thing that we all must understand: the Acarya, or he who is the bonafide representative of the Guru-parampara for a particular time, place and circumstances, has the authority and power, as per the direct order of the Lord Himself, to take on and deliver from the darkness of nescience as many souls as may be encompassed within his magnanimous compassion. However, although we, the materially conditioned ones, may be of the same spiritual nature as that of the Lord and His pure representative, do not necessarily deserve such grace, hence the all well known phrase "causeless mercy". We are all nothing but undeserving recipients of Lord Caitanya's causeless mercy which has been bestowed upon us through the agency of His pure representative in genuine parampara, HDG AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. If we allow ourselves, at any given moment to go stray from the shelter of such a fortunate fate, then that's our mistake and if we are really sincere we should be humble enough to admit It and not try to justify ourselves by childish and irrevelant comments. Jai Srila Prabhupada! Hare Krsna!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-22454265378338836652014-04-15T17:48:40.373-07:002014-04-15T17:48:40.373-07:00Hamsadutta prabhu: " He never had any respons...Hamsadutta prabhu: " He never had any responsible service while Prabhupada was here, he was not a Sankirtan, book distributor, he has opened no temple ever, he has probably never recruited a single devotee." What is the use of turning so many people into devotees if you're just going to cheat them? As Srila Hamsadutta did between the year 1977 and into the mid 1980's? Even before Srila Prabhupada's departure Srila Hamsadutta Maharaja was trying to position himself as the Acharya, isn't so? so much so that Srila Prabhupada had to reprimand him. So this propensity of cheating had been manifest since before Srila Prabhupada's departure. On the other hand we have the PADA editor who has for the past many decades has saved people from cheaters like Hamsadutta Prabhu. How many souls has the PADA editor saved? Probably hundreds if not thousands. Not sure how to compare the two, but I would surmise that Srila Prabhupada is very pleased with the PADA editor who is trying to expose the ... onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-75387157260331051552014-04-15T07:54:15.542-07:002014-04-15T07:54:15.542-07:00" In 1978, when I was initiated by Hansadutta..." In 1978, when I was initiated by Hansadutta in Mayapur, <br />he told me, “I am not actually the guru, but I’m initiating you <br />on behalf of Prabhupada, and Prabhupada is your spiritual <br />master." - Bhima dasa<br /><br /><br />"BIMA'S WRITING WAS GREAT, TERRIFIC, unfortunately <br />this "Prabhupadanuga forum" and others like it, are <br />ineffective because no one observes the Spiritual etiquette <br />of Srila Prabhupada's established HIERARCHY Structure <br />(Senior Devotees - Equal Devotees - and Subordinated <br />Devotees) in terms of loyalty - dedication and confidentiality <br />in the Transcendental service of Prabhupada. The time line <br />seniority ( the date of someone's initiation ) considerations <br />are of secondary importance." - Hansadutta dasa <br /><br />Wyatt - Hansadutta dasa while giving class on sankirtan<br />in April of 8th, 1979, in Berkeley, California made this<br />statement:<br /><br />" Prabhupada wanted this. Therefore, I want it, and therefore<br />you must want it because I want it. For those of you WHO ARE<br />MY DISCIPLES, a disciple means he wants what the guru wants.<br />Thats all he wants. He likes what the guru likes and he doesn't <br />like what the guru doesn't like." Hansadutta dasa<br /><br />So, this fellow Bhima dasa, in his argument with Krishna Kant<br />on the subject of "Whose Final Order?" claimed that Hansadutta<br />had told him that at the time of his initiation in 1978, Hansadutta <br />dasa was actually initiating him on behalf of Srila Prabhupada <br />and that Bhima dasa's spiritual master was Srila Prabhupada. <br />And in Berkeley one year later Hansadutta dasa says " those of <br />you who are my disciples.............. ". <br /><br />The truth is Hansadutta dasa never said to Bhima dasa that he <br />was initiating on behalf of Srila Prabhupada and just to prop up <br />Hansadutta dasa as the current official ritvik representative of <br />Srila Prabhupada, Bhima dasa LIED to Krishna Kant and to the <br />rest of the world. And this Hansadutta dasa is supporting that lie <br />by saying that " BIMA'S WRITING WAS GREAT, TERRIFIC ". <br />Even until today these ritviks can't stop promoting with their LIES. Wyatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12287351347050549627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-20897017759986251572014-04-15T06:13:02.913-07:002014-04-15T06:13:02.913-07:00WYATT: @ "rmd ( Ram Mohan Dasa ) Dear Prabhus...WYATT: @ "rmd ( Ram Mohan Dasa ) Dear Prabhus - pamho, all glories to Srila Prabhupada. Hansadutta pr is very busy at present moment, he just mailed this message for all of us."<br /><br />Wyatt - This message from Ram Mohan dasa, does this mean that our dear Hansadutta dasa is going to go back to his 'cave' and is no longer interested in participating in our discussion. If it is then he is like the tortoise when there is trouble or danger withdraws back into its shell. What is that statement Hansadutta dasa made sometime ago about some men being womanly? Oh! Here it is:<br />" I think the whole German Yatra have become "GIRLIE MEN" under some womanly GBC leader. It is incomprehensible to me, how could that have happened?? There is not one MALE (Man with guts) figure to take up leadership on behalf of Srila PRABHUPADA, the greatest man in the last 500 years???? A womanly GBC is all that Germany can produce, and no one sees the fault in that?? I dont get it... please enlighten me! " Looks like it is we the readers who need some enlightenment here. To say the least we are also encouraged to be stool flies.<br />At least Srila Prabhupada knows how to came clean with the Gaudiya Math issues.<br />Hare Krsna<br /><br />[PADA: As soon as Hansadutta sees a gay man dressed in silks with a huge gold crown, also with his german shepherd dogs licking the maha plate, covered with the hands of 50 boys, he falls off his seat crying tears of joy that he has met practically the second coming of Jesus new messiah. He worships girlie men himself as his messiahs, and then he criticizes others for doing what he has been doing. ys pd] krishna1008https://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.com