tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post1477762762349943305..comments2024-03-28T18:26:53.256-07:00Comments on krishna1008: Neophytes act as "Classroom Monitors" krishna1008http://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-37082066492909023172014-03-14T01:07:49.687-07:002014-03-14T01:07:49.687-07:00Right, thanks Mahesh Raja pr, their has to be a pe...Right, thanks Mahesh Raja pr, their has to be a personal relationship to the bona fide spiritual master Srila Prabhupada via ritvik representative to whom new bhaktas can look up to. <br /><br />Whom they can follow suit. After all Vaishnavism is a personal cult. Vaishnavism is not just formality, there are personal relationships. <br /><br />In fact everything is personal within the Vaishnava community. Additionally actual initiation is when someone really follows the rules&regs and is situated brahma-bhuta. Prabhupada: "So Caitanya Mahaprabhu made one condition, that, “You have committed so many sinful activities. I shall excuse them immediately, provided you promise that you’ll not commit again.” This is initiation." (Mayapura, March 19, 1976) <br /><br />It is therefore understandable when presently new bhaktas feel hesitant to take ritvik initiation from just any unknown devotee. Or what Tamohara is doing on his free blogger forum to give initiation via email account. <br /><br />That's rather making people shrink back. They don't know what this devotee is doing all day, is he drinking coffee and watching movies? And they are supposed to get initiated into then Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya-Sampradaya like that? <br /><br />So this is rather counterproductive. These new devotees want to actually see that this ritvik priest accomplished great preaching work and is not an isolated morose kanistha. So there are now trustworthy ritviks available who accomplished great task, decent achievement that tells its own tale. <br /><br />Great preachers that have earned respect of the Vaishnava community and people naturally respect them as bona fide ritvik representative because they made so many new devotees. So far this did not happen. There is much talk about ritvik initiation but so far there are no ritviks where new devotees can have faith that these persons are genuinely representing Prabhupada's ritvik order? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com