tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post1008266208125967113..comments2024-03-27T16:45:50.376-07:00Comments on krishna1008: Guru Must Be Authorized (Prabhupadanugas)krishna1008http://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-71443331012727296202014-01-27T20:00:22.530-08:002014-01-27T20:00:22.530-08:00“Step right up. Become guru!” is the poison bait. ...“Step right up. Become guru!” is the poison bait. It’s Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa’s trick to reveal who the self-motivated rascals are. It’s also His trick to motivate the troublemakers, who would normally be more trouble than they are worth, to actually do a little bit of useful service, such as maintaining the bricks and mortar.<br /><br />At some point, the GBC is going to figure out that they have better things to do than to babysit for a bunch of mentally disturbed neophytes pretending to be spiritually advanced gurus.Pratyatosa Dasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11729002580122579202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2478589417348774686.post-22891878880666894132014-01-27T19:19:32.504-08:002014-01-27T19:19:32.504-08:00Prabhupada said when I give the order you become g...Prabhupada said when I give the order you become guru, that's all. <br /><br />[PADA: Where did he appoint 11 gurus?]<br /><br />He said the law of disciplic succession is once the guru leaves the disciples then become guru. <br /><br />[PADA: When the training is complete.]<br /><br />He said he wanted all of his disciples to become gurus. <br /><br />[PADA: Not what the GBC does? They said 11 were appointed, not all? They kicked out all the devotees. If all of the devotees are gurus, that means they kicked out 5,000 gurus.]<br /><br />Therefore he gave the order for ALL of his disciples to become guru. <br /><br />[PADA: This was never done, they said there are 11 and then the 11 voted in more, they never said all of the disciples are gurus.]<br /><br />Plain and simple. <br /><br />[PADA: And then they said gurus engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children because the people they selected as gurus were not qualified.]<br /><br />But you will never print this because you cannot defeat this simple logic of Srila Prabhupada's.. <br /><br />[PADA: We have asked for any proof the 11 were appointed as gurus, and when were they ordered to vote in more gurus? None of this was ordered.]<br /><br />You are asking for a letter appointing each and every person in ISKCON who will become a guru from Srila Prabhupada but Srila Prabhupada did not say he would give a letter in writing appointing those he wanted to become guru and would not give a letter to those he did not. <br /><br />[PADA: No, the GBC says he appointed 11 gurus? Where is this documented?]<br /><br />Rather, we have the example of K. Swami who wanted a letter from Prabhupada stating he was a sannyasi and once he got it Brahmananda had to get it back and Prabhupada said he would write no more such letters because K. Swami misused it. Print this, I dare you, because this argument defeats all the ritviks in a nutshell. on Guru Must Be Authorized (Prabhupadanugas)<br /><br />[PADA: The GBC says gurus engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, even a dog has better behavior than their gurus. No, you have not defeated anything, you have never proven the root issue, that 11 were appointed. You have never proven the 11 had the authority to kick out all the rest of the disciples, etc. Where was any of this ordered? And no, they never said all the disciples are gurus, and if they are saying that now, that means they banned 5,000 gurus from ISKCON, banning 5,000 gurus would make them mega-rascals what kind of person bans thousands of gurus? Answer these points please. ys pd]krishna1008https://www.blogger.com/profile/01723561177692442276noreply@blogger.com